Wolverine would still win. The adamantium doesnt make him that much stronger, he can still only lift 800lbs with it. Its absence doesnt really make a difference and please bear in mind that cap can only lift a ton so its not really a big disadvantage for wolverine. Their fighting skills are debatably at least on par and despite not having ad bones his claws will still shred through cap no problem. Another factor to consider is that without ad bones his healing factor is dramatically increased as was revealed in the comics at the time. Ad in his body is regarded by his healing factor as a antibody so part of his factor is negated while he has the metal present in his body.
Wolverine would win hands down
Wolverine only though having the strength of a normal human athlete, possess a greater healing factor without the adimantium metal. However he is older and has been around even longer than cap. america. We need also keep in mind that Wolvie's claws can cut through anything whether he has the adimantium or not.
Not at all.
First off Logan with out his hf and so forth is equal to capt in every area if not superior.
Logan would still has superhiman agility, reflexes, stamina, strength and so forth.
His durability would be beyond that of capts.
Logan has already shown that he does not need his healing factor to defeat capt.
Originally posted by Soljer
5/10 to each.Without his adamantium, claws, or healing, they are virtually the same person. Wolverine's just shorter and harrier.
😬.
Logan takes it in my opinion.
Now if they were complete equals body wise I would give it a rough spit.
But Logan still holds advantages in this fight due to his slightly superior body.
Heightened senses? So he can smell Cap better - so what?
They both have feats of sensing wind shifts to detect incoming attacks - which hardly matters since neither is concealed.
I've seen nothing from Wolverine to show that he has a durability edge, when neglecting his healing factor and adamantium.
This fight is an even split. 😬.
Originally posted by Soljer
Heightened senses? So he can smell Cap better - so what?They both have feats of sensing wind shifts to detect incoming attacks - which hardly matters since neither is concealed.
Wolverine has stated numerous times being able to senses attacks. From either hearing heart beats to smelling chemical changes and so forth.
Capt senses do not even capare to Logans.
Originally posted by Soljer
I've seen nothing from Wolverine to show that he has a durability edge, when neglecting his healing factor and adamantium.This fight is an even split. 😬.
Logan has been stated as having been chemically enduced durability giving him durability well beyond that of the human limitations.
Logans also been shown to take nunchucks to the face and so forth with out being fazed or even cut.
Logans bones have also been stated as being just as tough as his bone claws which rend straight through most any thing, such as solid metal, stone and so forth.
Logans bones and muscles are a good deal more durable then capts..
Cap detected an attack from THE BLACK PANTHER (you know, one of the stealthiest guys in Marvel) via shifting air currents.
Anywho, I never said Cap's sense compared to Logan's, I said they wouldn't make a difference here.
Further more, Cap's taken hits from high-class-bricks, and has been used as a human wrecking ball without being knocked out. I know, I know, being beaten through concrete, and having an entire apartment complex leveled on your head HARDLY compares to nunchuks, but bear with me.
Further - Logan's only claim to chemically enhanced durability is outside of comics, and therefore has questionable validity. Otherwise? Throw up a scan.
Wolverine is no more durable than Captain America when you remove his adamantium and cancel out his healing factor. 😐.
Originally posted by Soljer
Cap detected an attack from THE BLACK PANTHER (you know, one of the stealthiest guys in Marvel) via shifting air currents.Anywho, I never said Cap's sense compared to Logan's, I said they wouldn't make a difference here.
Originally posted by Soljer
Further more, Cap's taken hits from high-class-bricks, and has been used as a human wrecking ball without being knocked out. I know, I know, being beaten through concrete, and having an entire apartment complex leveled on your head HARDLY compares to nunchuks, but bear with me.
Originally posted by Soljer
Further - Logan's only claim to chemically enhanced durability is outside of comics, and therefore has questionable validity. Otherwise? Throw up a scan.
sorry but there really no debate on if it valid when it was stated by marvel as being the true origins.