Storm Vs Colossus

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Originally posted by Creshosk
You haven't read any of hthe comics lately have you.

As I said, Lightning can come UP from the ground as well as coming DOWN from the sky.

Terminal velocity is the maximum speed acheived while falling, which would still be less that being FORCED down ward, particularly by manipulating the atmosphere creating a very high pressure above and a vaccum below. . .

But as I said she doesn't need to do this anymore, so he'd have to dig the hole himself.

She doesn't need to melt him either. Heat him up White hot, then flash freeze.

Lightning ALWAYS comes up from the ground, then down. It's only the discharge you see that comes down.

She isn't going to superheat him with electricity. The main points of heat from electrical current are the source of the hot (contact) and the ground (exit) Lightning is RARELY 50k degrees, that is based on how much of what specific gases are burned away, how many electrons/neutrons are discharged, etc. Not only that, but the heat isn't going to stay, you can shoot a bullet through flames, and it'll just be warm, because it only spent a split second in the heat. Fire will melt bullets, if it's hot enough. She would have to have a NON-STOP barrage of LIGHTNING not ELECTRICAL CURRENT, because lightning is a discharge, which is different then an electrical zapping. She would exhaust herself trying to make him attain a super-heated state and keep him there WHILE freezing him.

BUT - He's going to be out before this even matters, because apparently he feels the electricity through his steel flesh. Lightning bolts.. ya... that would suck.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
WHILE
Have trouble with the word THEN, do you?

then why are trees ignited?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Have trouble with the word THEN, do you?

then why are trees ignited?

Because trees burn easily, especially with temperatures around 1000 degrees.

THEN doesn't apply when she can't spare the time.

Actually standard lightning as ive proved hurts him. However Storm can actually intensify the heat of her lightning. In the same issue that Colossus got melted stom had to melt the floor of the danger room because the alien worm had taken it over psionically so she needed to melt the floor to get through to the circuitry. She could certainly create some nasty melted lesions on his body.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
She could certainly create some nasty melted lesions on his body.

Which is what I was getting at. She isn't going to superheat his whole body, possibly parts of him, but not his whole body.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He still has a bioelectric field that Storm can manipulate for the same results.Shinobi Shaw was in an intagible wraith form yet he could still be effected. Just like there doesnt have to be a "chewy, fleshy brain" for a telepath to effect colossus or the thing.

But his mind would still be there for the telepath to affect. What would the electricity shut down that would kill him? His metal? His metal? I think his metal is non-vital but if she gets his metal he might be in trouble.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You haven't read any of hthe comics lately have you.

As I said, Lightning can come UP from the ground as well as coming DOWN from the sky.

Terminal velocity is the maximum speed acheived while falling, which would still be less that being FORCED down ward, particularly by manipulating the atmosphere creating a very high pressure above and a vaccum below. . .

But as I said she doesn't need to do this anymore, so he'd have to dig the hole himself.

She doesn't need to melt him either. Heat him up White hot, then flash freeze.


I understand that, why are you avoiding my question, you must agree.

Lighting cannot go through that thickness of the ground, period.

I never said colossus was winnning.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I would but I don't particularly like back patting, and have nothing to add to it. But since you asked, I thought it was a very good post you made.

CMaster here doesn't like to go by comic feats. Just his own opinion.

You like to go by shit feats when they help you, and then you tried science 2x and failed on this site, stop using ***** tactics.

I have to revise what I said earlier after some rethinking and some reading on lightning pathology. She is actually unlikely to be able to heat his core body temperature up with lightning strikes to the point of melting, as Colossus is primarily low resistance organic steel. Low resistance materials such as metals produce less heat when electricity is passed through if I recall. Though I do believe the heat that is produced would be retained relatively well as smooth reflective surfaces don't radiate heat well, she would exhaust herself trying to heat him to melting or trying to heat him and then cool him rapidly. Though she doesn't need to use either of those methods, her versatility is a huge asset in this fight. She has at her disposal all manner of meteorological phenomena. She has an immense range advantage too. Colossus really has only one tactic he can use and that is to hurl projectiles at her with his strength advantage.

Surrounding the point of contact his organic steel would likely be melted though in a similar manner that produces the deep tissue burns of lightning strike victims at points of contact, as the temperature of the surrounding ionised air would be 55,000 F (30,000 K) far exceeding Colossus melting point. Whether or not there is electrical disruption of Colossus' organic steel cardiovascular and nervous systems I'm not sure. But multiple lightning strikes should be enough to injure Colossus sufficiently securing a victory for Storm, provided she can evade projectile attacks from him. Imo more often than not Storm wins this.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I have to revise what I said earlier after some rethinking and some reading on lightning pathology. She is actually unlikely to be able to heat his core body temperature up with lightning strikes to the point of melting, as Colossus is primarily low resistance organic steel. Low resistance materials such as metals produce less heat when electricity is passed through if I recall. Though I do believe the heat that is produced would be retained relatively well as smooth reflective surfaces don't radiate heat well, she would exhaust herself trying to heat him to melting or trying to heat him and then cool him rapidly. Though she doesn't need to use either of those methods, her versatility is a huge asset in this fight. She has at her disposal all manner of meteorological phenomena. She has an immense range advantage too. Colossus really has only one tactic he can use and that is to hurl projectiles at her with his strength advantage.

Surrounding the point of contact his organic steel would likely be melted though in a similar manner that produces the deep tissue burns of lightning strike victims at points of contact, as the temperature of the surrounding ionised air would be 55,000 F (30,000 K) far exceeding Colossus melting point. Whether or not there is electrical disruption of Colossus' organic steel cardiovascular and nervous systems I'm not sure. But multiple lightning strikes should be enough to injure Colossus sufficiently securing a victory for Storm, provided she can evade projectile attacks from him. Imo more often than not Storm wins this.

Quoted for truth.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I have to revise what I said earlier after some rethinking and some reading on lightning pathology. She is actually unlikely to be able to heat his core body temperature up with lightning strikes to the point of melting, as Colossus is primarily low resistance organic steel. Low resistance materials such as metals produce less heat when electricity is passed through if I recall. Though I do believe the heat that is produced would be retained relatively well as smooth reflective surfaces don't radiate heat well, she would exhaust herself trying to heat him to melting or trying to heat him and then cool him rapidly. Though she doesn't need to use either of those methods, her versatility is a huge asset in this fight. She has at her disposal all manner of meteorological phenomena. She has an immense range advantage too. Colossus really has only one tactic he can use and that is to hurl projectiles at her with his strength advantage.

Surrounding the point of contact his organic steel would likely be melted though in a similar manner that produces the deep tissue burns of lightning strike victims at points of contact, as the temperature of the surrounding ionised air would be 55,000 F (30,000 K) far exceeding Colossus melting point. Whether or not there is electrical disruption of Colossus' organic steel cardiovascular and nervous systems I'm not sure. But multiple lightning strikes should be enough to injure Colossus sufficiently securing a victory for Storm, provided she can evade projectile attacks from him. Imo more often than not Storm wins this.

That makes sense enough, I take away the stalemate, and say storm wins more often, barely.

Great logic and knowledge, good some other people know what that is.

has everybody forgotten that storm can hurl lasers from the sky equilivent to the power of the sun? but yeah I agree with X

Yes, because we always have Lazer storms here, especially in hurricane season.

she does it by reflecting the glassine fragments in the sky off the sun

Yeah I know, I hate when that happens. I had to buy a new computer once because it got lazered during a lazer storm. Uh oh, on TV it says we are under a high glassine fragment watch, I better get off the computer right now.

huh?

Glassline paricles in the air. Dont you know that there are these fragments in the air and if the sun hits them lazers fry the world? This is what storm uses to control her lazer beams. Its really a natural weather occurance, since Storms power is to control the weather. Yes, completely natural, not the product of a writer with a hard on for storm, and definatly not made up by marvel just to excite fanboys and girls the world over.

Stormfront forgot what glassine is... And how sun lasers are possibly the stupidest concept ever created for Storm.

I still stand saying Colossus should win 3 or 4 by large projectiles. With 100 tons worth of strength, he should be able to throw something that's 50 pounds at least as fast as a gun propels a bullet. One of them has to connect eventually. Overcoming that kind of inertia with wind just doesn't seem foolproof.

Originally posted by Onikirimaru
Glassline paricles in the air. Dont you know that there are these fragments in the air and if the sun hits them lazers fry the world? This is what storm uses to control her lazer beams. Its really a natural weather occurance, since Storms power is to control the weather. Yes, completely natural, not the product of a writer with a hard on for storm, and definatly not made up by marvel just to excite fanboys and girls the world over.
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No you were talking about other things, thats why I went "huh" 🤣

*****Stormfront forgot what glassine is... And how sun lasers are possibly the stupidest concept ever created for Storm.*****

^^it has happened, and I do know what glassine is, but it has happened in the comics so that's what I will go by