Thing And Wolverine Vs Sabertooth And Sasquatch

Originally posted by jinzin
This is going circles.. oy..

No one said she didn't.. but it clearly wasn't enough to keep up with the damage she was sustaining. She didn't run away for being upset, she ran because Logan ripped up her Acheles. At least that's how it came across to me.

Yeah I don't think we need to touch on most of the parts now

She definetly ran being injuired which she said, not because she was upset it's just during the fight she wasn't into it saying sorry I have to put you down and then he stabs her in her leg/ankle.

Sabertooth and Sasquatch win.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It didn't though she even comments and the images show she is getting mentally upset talking to Morph about it.

I disagree.. of course she got upset later has she was talking to Morph, during the fight it seemed like an all out battle.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
You said you don't consider Sasquatch would take a majority since you read the fight in Exiles, but that fight didn't really prove anything. Can Wolverine beat Sasquatch? definetly, but for the majority no way.

I don't know.. I don't see why not still I guess.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
With a timid Sasquatch

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I didn't say otherwise
Come on, now your really underating Sasquatch.

NO I'M NOT... 😕

It's reasonable...

Logan's taken on hundreds of brick fights and has a hefty majority of them under his belt as victories. For Sasquatch to outright kill Logan in a fight unscathed seems a bit... Okay, VERY highly suspect.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
That would be sweet. I'd like to see that.

I'll try and take care of it tonight.

Originally posted by jinzin
I disagree.. of course she got upset later has she was talking to Morph, during the fight it seemed like an all out battle.

It wasn't as mentioned later in Exiles, I'm still looking for the issue.

Originally posted by jinzin

I said it made me unsure.. and yes it does.. it proves a lot in terms of what Logan can take and dish out to Sasquatch..

I don't know.. I don't see why not still I guess.

If his claws can cut Hulk, why wouldn't they cut Sasquatch? I just don't see how this makes much of a difference

Especially since this is Exiles, who base was said to be weaker then 616 via. handbooks.

Originally posted by jinzin

NO I'M NOT... 😕

It's reasonable...

Logan's taken on hundreds of brick fights and has a hefty majority of them under his belt as victories. For Sasquatch to outright kill Logan in a fight unscathed seems a bit... Okay, VERY highly suspect.

I'm talking about your comment about "his own CIS (buffy/angel style) when she did it" basically it was his own doing. We know it was a fight, and Sas wouldn't have been so sure she could do it again if it was simply Wolveine just giving up.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It wasn't as mentioned later in Exiles, I'm still looking for the issue.

If his claws can cut Hulk, why wouldn't they cut Sasquatch? I just don't see how this makes much of a difference

Especially since this is Exiles, who base was said to be weaker then 616 via. handbooks.

How much weaker?
It just reassured me on things I already figured.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I'm talking about your comment about "his own CIS (buffy/angel style) when she did it" basically it was his own doing. We know it was a fight, and Sas wouldn't have been so sure she could do it again if it was simply Wolveine just giving up.

Originally posted by jinzin
How much weaker?
It just reassured me on things I already figured.

I honestly can't say, we just know she is weaker. How much? no idea.

Originally posted by jinzin

I'm saying it COULD have gone down that way... It's hard to imagine that she was so successful against that Logan when we see how poorly she faired in the fight we DID see.. that's why I have a problem with referencing the off panel fight, we're not treated one bit to the context in which it took place.

Like I said she wasn't mentally in it, as last time she killed her husband she was sucidial for years mourning her husband. No way was her full heart in fighting him at all, which was referenced in the issue and later on. Think it was around just before Heather goes back to her world and we see her AF team.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I honestly can't say, we just know she is weaker. How much? no idea.

Like I said she wasn't mentally in it, as last time she killed her husband she was sucidial for years mourning her husband. No way was her full heart in fighting him at all, which was referenced in the issue and later on. Think it was around just before Heather goes back to her world and we see her AF team.

BTW I just saw the Exiles #33 fight. That's how I would expect a fight to go between the two. Logan isn't gonna overpower Sasquatch but he will cut him up.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
How do you know she is weaker? Is it stated in a comic or handbook somewhere?

BTW I just saw the Exiles #33 fight. That's how I would expect a fight to go between the two. Logan isn't gonna overpower Sasquatch but he will cut him up.

Handbook

He most definetly can overpower Wolverine, heck he can increase his strength as I mentioned earlier.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Handbook

He most definetly can overpower Wolverine, heck he can increase his strength as I mentioned earlier.

Anyways I noticed in the issue that when Morph said that he wanted to stay and help Sasquatch fight Wolverine Sasquatch was quoted as saying "We'll loose. We both can't outrun him, and he's too dangerous in this state".

Originally posted by Blur
I saw some people saying how stupid you are but I didn't believe till I saw it with my own eyes. 🤨

😕

Did you just say something?

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Oh, I thought the handbooks both put them at 70 tons.

Anyways I noticed in the issue that when Morph said that he wanted to stay and help Sasquatch fight Wolverine Sasquatch was quoted as saying "We'll loose. We both can't outrun him, and he's too dangerous in this state".

It varies sometines 616 Sasquatch is listed to be able to lift 75 tons, and another puts him in class 90. Handbooks have him all over the place, but on-panel evidence contradict handbooks. As even in his first apperance he tossed 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet while the engines were still on with ease.

Yeah and right after she tells him she will kill Wolverine as she had did before. Like I mentioned with Jinzin there are quotes and captions that support both our sides.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It varies sometines 616 Sasquatch is listed to be able to lift 75 tons, and another puts him in class 90. Handbooks have him all over the place, but on-panel evidence contradict handbooks. As even in his first apperance he tossed 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet while the engines were still on with ease.

Yeah and right after she tells him she will kill Wolverine as she had did before. Like I mentioned with Jinzin there are quotes and captions that support both our sides.

I actually think Sasquatch told Morph that she would kill Logan to try and help pursuade him to leave.

sassie and sbretooth wins

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Well almost all characters can lift more than their bios say so feats don't really mean anything really. BTW which handbook lists him at lifting 75 tons? I saw the one in the thread that put him at class 90 which is 75-90 tons max I believe but never saw one that put him at 75 tons.

I actually think Sasquatch told Morph that she would kill Logan to try and help pursuade him to leave.

Offical Handbook of the Marvel Universe Vol.1 (Pre upgrade bio) I believe, I don't have all his bios uploaded. Actually on this board we go by feats, if we go by handbooks they state Wolverine is peak human and can die from having his organs removed. We know that's not the case

Here's some captions concerning that:
Sasquatch: "Go! I'm to heavy to carry and besides you can find reinforcements. Wolverine isn't impossible to stop..we were just caught off guard. I'll do what I have to do if he catches up to me."
Morph: "Heather I'm not leaving you"
Sasquatch: "I'll kill him..I've done it before"
Morph: "Yeah?"
Sasquatch: "Yes." (Sad look)

Caption: <Flashback> "The remaining controllers of the Weapon X Program activated a dormant chip hidden in Logan's adrenal gland. He went insane. It was Heather who finally had to stop him. She mourned him for years. James Hudson brought her back from the brink. And helped her find a new life within the old. But despite new found joy, she still missed Logan. He haunted her then..and still does now"

Caption: "She is just so thankful for this one moment of calm..because if Logan decided a second later to attack..she doesn't know what she would have done. And that sits quite well with her."

actaully there are really no hand books that state logan is peak-human.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
😕

Did you just say something?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully there are really no hand books that state logan is peak-human.

There one that is controdicted by 5 others............one vs 5...........wow.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
There one that is controdicted by 5 others............one vs 5...........wow.

Upper limit human level. I don't see a problem with that.