Hercules vs. Mindless Hulk
a totaly mindless rampaging Hulk.... is confronted with Hercules, Prince of Power.....
can Hercules handle or stop this Hulk ?
in my opinion.... against a totally rampaging out of control Hulk.... no individual with physical strength stands a chance
no Abomination... no Thor.... no Hercules.... even no Juggernaut
They already fought. One on one.
Mindless Hulk has the setback that sooner or later he will start to die.
Herc lasted all the fight against that hulk ( one of the few who got always back and punched the Hulk again ) and since he doesnt tire or get weaker he will eventually win.
Until Hulk starts to die its a stalemate tho.
Originally posted by olympian
They already fought. One on one.Mindless Hulk has the setback that sooner or later he will start to die.
Herc lasted all the fight against that hulk ( one of the few who got always back and punched the Hulk again ) and since he doesnt tire or get weaker he will eventually win.
Until Hulk starts to die its a stalemate tho.
Do you honestly believe that Hulk would die from separation before Herc loses?
Mindless Hulk was the one who fough the two avengers teams and Samson was he not? The one that was dying over the time.
If so my point stands.
"Do you honestly believe that Hulk would die from separation before Herc loses?"
Yes. He fough that Hulk alone, then during the avengers fight and was one of the two who was in a effective way punching the Hulk back and forth.
He lasted all the fight without any loss of his power so yes i do belive.
"no he was not the same."
He is 😄 Its the sameeee storyac bub.
"also mindless hulk would rip herc apart, what comics do you read olympian"
This one with the mindless Hulk :
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"mindless hulk increases hi strength far quicker to unbelievable proportions, way beyond herc"
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4446204
Who woulda know........
<<Yeah. He's really stupid (dumber than Savage) but his strength increases are insane. Downside is that he can't live without Banner, so his durability decreases over time.>>
i always thought he was the one in 300 - strange tried to help banner who was being attacked by nightmare, but in helping, he made things worse and banner actually, i don't know, sort of died or went coma or something. i can't recall. but there was no banner in the hulk and he destroyed pretty well everything and everyone in his way. til strange zapped him into another dimension. in all my years collecting, that was the strongest, most savage hulk i've ever seen. and THAT hulk would beat herc LONG before the immortality became an issue.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<Yeah. He's really stupid (dumber than Savage) but his strength increases are insane. Downside is that he can't live without Banner, so his durability decreases over time.>>i always thought he was the one in 300 - strange tried to help banner who was being attacked by nightmare, but in helping, he made things worse and banner actually, i don't know, sort of died or went coma or something. i can't recall. but there was no banner in the hulk and he destroyed pretty well everything and everyone in his way. til strange zapped him into another dimension. in all my years collecting, that was the strongest, most savage hulk i've ever seen. and THAT hulk would beat herc LONG before the immortality became an issue.
"in all my years collecting, that was the strongest, most savage hulk i've ever seen. and THAT hulk would beat herc LONG before the immortality became an issue."
They fought before. And "long" before its not going to happen. Any guy who lasts two fights at different places in time with the mindless beast its not going to get beat " long" before anything happens.
"Hercules could not beat the hulk even with the help of other 13 heroes and two avengers teams........if math is not an opinion that mindless hulk at the end would have smashed Hercules (no matter which version, Immortal,Mortal.....)"
Maths must be crazy then. Because Hulk lost. And i didnt saw him smashing Hercules in any part of the fight. In any part of the two fights actually.
And do the maths better. It wasent 13 guys. And since of those only She Hulk and Hercules wer figthing back, what does that tells you?
The rest was cannon fodder.
Cannon fodder that mind you Hulk didnt managed to beat or ko...any of them, except putting Samson down who wasent even an avenger.
don't get me wrong - herc would do damage before he fell. but if thor with his hammer and near warrior madness couldn't beat him, herc isn't either. if i had to i could show i scan of herc getting utterly ruined by a lightning bolt from thor (thor was possessed by someone (pluto? ares?) and the only way herc could free thor was to force thor to strike with lightning - but he had to grab thor's hand and strike the hammer down for him so they both got struck. that did not end well for herc . . . most thor/herc fights in stalemates but thor never uses his full powers against
herc (lightning, godblast . . .)
thor + hammer > herc (much as i HATE to admit it . . .) thor just has too many powers. and again, thor couldn't beat hulk. herc would lose this fight eventually. how could he not? hulk's strength just keeps growing and growing.
and cube, what are you saying:
<<Savage Hulk has the mind of a child. Mindless Hulk has the mind of an animal.>>
are you saying mindless is stronger?
"don't get me wrong - herc would do damage before he fell. but if thor with his hammer and near warrior madness couldn't beat him"
When did Thor fough mindless Hulk?
"near warrior madness"
He never used warrior madness against regular savage Hulk did he.
"had to i could show i scan of herc getting utterly ruined by a lightning bolt from thor (thor was possessed by someone (pluto? ares?) "
I have scans of that fight. It was Ares. And "utterly ruined" is a stretch. He always got up.
"and the only way herc could free thor was to force thor to strike with lightning - but he had to grab thor's hand and strike the hammer down for him so they both got struck. that did not end well for herc "
Not end well? He took more than 4 shots of Thors hammer in the back of his head and wasent Ko. He then overpowered that Thor and made him strike the hammer in the ground and turn human again. That looks Herc having the advantage in the end for me.
"thor + hammer > herc"
I actually agree. Marvel doesnt write Hercules_god as having olympian powers on his own like the others. Thor is written as a full god with or without the hammer. Herc is still written as a man god who is godly "only" in immortality, huge stamina and durability besides his strenght.
Depends on which mindless Hulk ur talking about, the one from #300 was dying, I think he would have eventually beat Herc anyway, those 4 avengers were taking turns fighting him, its not like it was a fair one on one fight between him and Herc.
Then u have the more modern, post Onslaught Hulk that had no Banner. I dont think he was dying though, and he was definitely way too much for little ol' Herc.
