Originally posted by darthsith19
Okay, for one thing the official site states that Mace and Yoda are on par. Yoda had a draw with Mace, but clearly had the upper hand (or Dooku would not have run away). If Mace is on par with Yoda then he, to, could beat Dooku.
Better read the official site before telling me something about it. Here - direct from the starwars.com databank:
On Windus profile (EU):
"In his day, Mace was one of the best lightsaber fighters of the Jedi order. It was said only two opponents ever bested him -- Yoda, and Dooku."
From Dookus profile (EU):
"...and was unequaled in a classical form of lightsaber combat."
Mace was the youngest Jedi to ever join the Council? Wrong. Anakin was 23.
Wrong. Anakin had no master status and therefore he was not a real council member.
Where is it that you get the impression Plo is nowhere near as strong as Mace.
Mace is still second in command and still Dooku is stronger. Why you keep asking. Where did you get the impression that Plo is anywhere near Mace ? When he was killed by two clone pilots in starfighters - really impressive...
And lastly I never said Plo could beat Dooku, I meremly said he would put up a good fight.
And I said that Dooku would waste Plo and this is exactly what he will do.
Originally posted by Nai Fohl
Better read the official site before telling me something about it. Here - direct from the starwars.com databank:On Windus profile (EU):
"In his day, Mace was one of the best lightsaber fighters of the Jedi order. It was said only two opponents ever bested him -- Yoda, and Dooku."From Dookus profile (EU):
"...and was unequaled in a classical form of lightsaber combat."Wrong. Anakin had no master status and therefore he was not a real council member.
Mace is still second in command and still [b]Dooku is stronger
. Why you keep asking. Where did you get the impression that Plo is anywhere near Mace ? When he was killed by two clone pilots in starfighters - really impressive...And I said that Dooku would waste Plo and this is exactly what he will do. [/B]
Originally posted by darthsith19
1. Yes, only 2 Jedi ever bested him. Dooku did best him, when he was younger. TPM, I hear. But that's EU and the movie section, which is more official, says he is on par with Yoda.
2. Then you truely think he would have beaten Yoda in AOTC? But anyways, that's EU and the movie section is more official.
3. Okay, Anakin was njot a real Council Member but he still joined the Council, did he not? He had a seat on the Council, was accepted into the Council, therefor he was on the Council at a younger age than Mace. But whatever, it doesn't really matter.
4. If you believe Dooku could beat Mace then you believe Dooku could beat Yoda, which brings me to a new question: Why did he run away in AOTC if he would have won?
5. Where did you get the impression Mace is way stronger than Plo? Sure he got killed in a Starfighter, but that's where he was when Order 66 was put in place. What could he have done? he was in a Starfighter. Had Mace or Dooku been in his place the results would have been no different.
3. Whatever the reasons for Anakin joining the Counsel he still cannot be considered a Master because it was Sidious who pressured the Jedi to accept Anakin.
Originally posted by darthsith19
1. Yes, only 2 Jedi ever bested him. Dooku did best him, when he was younger. TPM, I hear. But that's EU and the movie section, which is more official, says he is on par with Yoda.
2. Then you truely think he would have beaten Yoda in AOTC? But anyways, that's EU and the movie section is more official.
3. Okay, Anakin was njot a real Council Member but he still joined the Council, did he not? He had a seat on the Council, was accepted into the Council, therefor he was on the Council at a younger age than Mace. But whatever, it doesn't really matter.
4. If you believe Dooku could beat Mace then you believe Dooku could beat Yoda, which brings me to a new question: Why did he run away in AOTC if he would have won?
5. Where did you get the impression Mace is way stronger than Plo? Sure he got killed in a Starfighter, but that's where he was when Order 66 was put in place. What could he have done? he was in a Starfighter. Had Mace or Dooku been in his place the results would have been no different.
1. Get a grip. Dooku is not a jedi, so he is not lumped into Order generalizations. Within the order, Mace is second to Yoda. But altogether, Dooku obviously usurps that role, perhaps even over Sidious in sheer duelling excellence. If you're just gonna argue movie dogma, please go to a movie related section.
2. Uh, right.
3. Anakin is moot.
4. Lots of reasons:
- He realized the fight would take a long time.
- He knew there was a war going on, and he had to escape with the plans to the Death Star.
- Sith don't play fair; and he had a sequel to be in.
5. Where'd you get the idea that Plo Koon could take anyone? What's your evidence? If you're going to spew and argue movie dogma, then you have NOTHING to go on with Plo Koon. If you cite EU, show us sources.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Well, as long as you're not saying Revan will suddenly be beating guys like Naga Sadow and Marka Ragnos, we're straight.
Anyone who claims that Revan could beat Naga or Ragnos is just stupid. I like Revan because he(and yes I consider Revan a man)was willing to do something that no one else was willing to do.