Congressman Threatens Islamic Holy Sites

Originally posted by FeceMan
I believe the threat is more of a deterrent than something most are actually considering.

quit defending a threat dude. a threat is a threat. in fact, a publically announced threat such as this could only lead to more hatred and violence,
with no action at all. if you are comfortable with politicians who shoot their mouths off in bigot racist rants to be heard by millions, then thats your thing.
but it scares the shit out of me. whats worse is it seems that such scumbag hawks are saying these things to kind of test the waters of the american public, and guage future actions by our responses...or better yet, lack of response.

its not just a meaningless threat.

Originally posted by PVS
quit defending a threat dude. a threat is a threat. in fact, a publically announced threat such as this could only lead to more hatred and violence,
with no action at all. if you are comfortable with politicians who shoot their mouths off in bigot racist rants to be heard by millions, then thats your thing.
but it scares the shit out of me. whats worse is it seems that such scumbag hawks are saying these things to kind of test the waters of the american public, and guage future actions by our responses...or better yet, lack of response.

its not just a meaningless threat.

I also fail to see the 'bigot racist rant' here. Now, if he had spouted stuff about those 'raghead camel jockeys who aren't worth more than the sand upon which they stand'...I could see it.

Maybe this 'scumbag hawk' just sees the best way to halt terrorism in a threat of extreme retaliation.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I will defend the threat if I feel like it. Yes, it could lead to more hatred and violence...or it could be seen the way the suicide bombers are seen: as fanatics that don't represent the whole of the population.

I also fail to see the 'bigot racist rant' here. Now, if he had spouted stuff about those 'raghead camel jockeys who aren't worth more than the sand upon which they stand'...I could see it.

Maybe this 'scumbag hawk' just sees the best way to halt terrorism in a threat of extreme retaliation.

yes, because nothing works in thwarting terrorism than threatening extreme action. only when we actually COMMIT an extreem action they become angered and seek revenge. well, im not sure that i understand your logic then 😬

so, if someone says "we should just bomb the mecca" in a terrorist attack, killing innocents and spitting in the face of one of the largest world religions, its all ok. so i guess if the terrorists where christian you would have no problem with the vatacan being bombed and the pope killed? oops...better avoid that question!!!

Originally posted by PVS
yes, because nothing works in thwarting terrorism than threatening extreme action. only when we actually COMMIT an extreem action they become angered and seek revenge. well, im not sure that i understand your logic then 😬

so, if someone says "we should just bomb the mecca" in a terrorist attack, killing innocents and spitting in the face of one of the largest world religions, its all ok. so i guess if the terrorists where christian you would have no problem with the vatacan being bombed and the pope killed? oops...better avoid that question!!!

All I did was try to understand his rationale.

I also fail to see the 'bigot racist rant' here. Now, if he had spouted stuff about those 'raghead camel jockeys who aren't worth more than the sand upon which they stand'...I could see it.

Originally posted by FeceMan
And when did I ever say that I agreed with the man's course of action? Did I say that it was good? Did I say that we should bomb Mecca?

All I did was try to understand his rationale.

ok, let me rephrase the question so that you can stop avoiding the point.
what if the i.r.a., comprised of irish catholics, conducted another string of terrorist attacks. then one of our congressmen makes a public threat of bombing the vatacan and murdering everyone there including the pope in retaliation for such attacks.

would you find this fair and comforting as well?

i know the answer is 'no' so you can either

-bullshit me and say 'yeah, why not'

-tell the truth and then explain why this situation would be different

Originally posted by PVS
ok, let me rephrase the question so that you can stop avoiding the point.
what if the i.r.a., comprised of irish catholics, conducted another string of terrorist attacks. then one of our congressmen makes a public threat of bombing the vatacan and murdering everyone there including the pope in retaliation for such attacks.

would you find this fair and comforting as well?

i know the answer is 'no' so you can either

-bullshit me and say 'yeah, why not'

-tell the truth and then explain why this situation would be different

2. Truth: "No. But I never said that I found his statements to be 'fair and comforting', nor did I ever agree with what he said. As in my previous post, I'll say that I was trying to understand his rationale. However, since this line has 'Truth:' right next to it, I will come clean and say that I was defending the fellow making this threat in order to spark an argument."

I also fail to see the 'bigot racist rant' here. Now, if he had spouted stuff about those 'raghead camel jockeys who aren't worth more than the sand upon which they stand'...I could see it.

Study your history.....everyone...the Muslim history.......then make a comment.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Study your history.....everyone...the Muslim history.......then make a comment.

sure, as long as you study christian history. *cough*inquisition*cough*
*ahem* my thought is so sore *cough*crusades*cough* i could use a glass of water

Originally posted by PVS
sure, as long as you study christian history. *cough*inquisition*cough*
*ahem* my thought is so sore *cough*crusades*cough* i could use a glass of water

NOOOO...*cough*.......take a lasinger.....you seem to be hacking.....

The real both sides of history.....*cough*, Muslims take over Jerusalem and the wanting to take over all*cough*.....the whole world......It's their history......take a look at both sides.....must stop from taking cough medicine.....making me high.....

Occupation *cough*...It's the only why.....for Mohamed.......

ha ha ha ha debbiejo keep on coughing both Muslims and Christians depend on your coughing.

Originally posted by debbiejo
NOOOO...*cough*.......take a lasinger.....you seem to be hacking.....

The real both sides of history.....*cough*, Muslims take over Jerusalem and the wanting to take over all*cough*.....the whole world......It's their history......take a look at both sides.....must stop from taking cough medicine.....making me high.....

Occupation *cough*...It's the only why.....for Mohamed.......

where the hell did you read about muslems wanting to take over the world?

Its a bit difficult to bomb Mecca which is in Saudi Arabia, whose country's head is a good friend of G.W. Bush. 😬

Guys bombing any holy site in history had deadly results and i am sure the president or ruler who orders the attack would be killed for sure.

Example in India the Sikh's Holiest site the Golden Temple was attacked by The Indian Government. At that time there were around only 18- 20 million around the world and they caused a lot of destruction. The prime minister of india was shot dead, it led to the deaths of over 70,000 people and terrorist cells grew in UK and Canada and they were able to blow up a plane killing 331 people. Big riots were caused in both countries and many shootings and such happened and martial law was declared many times in Northern India. True outside factors made the problem ten time worse but it shows only a trailer what happen if you bomb mecca.

It would be the greatest mistake any country can make. The US could defend it self from major invasions easily but not from guerrilla warfare which i would say we suck at. Ex (Iraq) You would have tens of millions of terrorist ready to attack and it would be Israel right here in the USA. It would be chaos and nothing will be able to defend us from that. Well I'm not Muslim but if the US ever does that i wouldn't mind going to the protest at the US embassy and it would be firebombed which has happened many times here in Toronto. If that happens i Think Canada would try and distance it self and says were friends??Since when??. If it was something different like some country attacking you we would stand by but i think only Israel and US would be friends after that. 😛

I would say strongly not recommended. True the Muslims countries don't have strong armies but if the people are against you can never win. Thats a history lesson to all of you!. 😎

Well posted ; thanks Manny

Originally posted by PVS
where the hell did you read about muslems wanting to take over the world?

📖 No..They're just expanding for the lord..Oh...I mean God....Oh ummm.. mean for the true god..help the infidels to be holy....convert just as the Christians did the same......Archangel Michael told them so....or was it Gabriel.......Or maybe it was added on later....like their other writings when Mohammad had a following and got a little bolder with what he wrote........Look it up in their Holy Book...... 😄

Well thank you. I would say Canada will not help you if you guys do that. Trust me I know people would be shocked and the govt listens to the people on foreign issues here. Ex Missile defence and Iraq war.

Muslims who don't believe much in Islam would be outraged and most minorities would be outraged and i would bet a thousand dollars that the US embassy would be blown up pretty fast as it almost was during the Serbian War. Guys people turn into complete different people if their religion or culture is attacked. Like me.

I doubt it. Bush has some brains but i don't know!!! If an American pilot fired at a school in the US or blew up four Canadians soldiers in Afghanistan it could happen by mistake. 😠 😠 The ladder got many people mad at the US here.!!!!! 😠

Hey, if I had my way....we wouldn't be involved with them what so ever...nor anyone else.....But who do you call????????? when in a jam?....It's not Ghost Busters......We as citizens can't control everything the government does....We just up our medicationssssss...... 😑

BTW....threats work.......it'll make them take more responsibility for their own people and for what's going on within their own boarders....police it better.....And yes....I'm not a fan of the oil industry either....The US is working on running vehicles on natural gas...I've already seen em....

Ah OH....don't throw rocks tooooo hard.....paperbag1...I I feel a holy war coming on.....this is getting frightning.......I hope it holds... cry

Sigh. And here I was thinking concepts of MAD and nuclear deterrent had ended with the cold war. Oh well, I guess history is doomed to repeat itself.

If this congressman becomes President of the USA, and he does bomb a Holy Site, then start expecting suicide bomb events on a daily basis in in Major cities.

makes sense GCG.

but for some reason people think that if you aggravate them to a certain extent, they will suddenly cower and submit. stupid huh? they just want to hit the hornets nest harder and harder with hopes that they just give up.