You're basing this whole thing on a slim chance that someone could land some kind of lucky shot, as though it's a game of tag. It's not. She doesn't have great durability, but it's not like Wolverine slashes her and the game is over. She's a warrior - she fights through A LOT of damage. And I don't believe they can do enough damage to her to actually put her down. Might she get stabbed in the process? Maybe. Will she get shot a couple of times? Possibly. Might she even take an iron fist shot before it's all said and done? I can see that. But you're talking about a girl who took poundings from the likes of Superman and Darkseid. What's a little chi from a CL 1/8 opponent going to do to put her down that multiple shots from CL100+ opponents could not?
WW still takes this.
just like you're basing you're whole argument on wonder woman moving faster than impulse speed throughout the entire fight..... if deathstroke already gave her a hell of a run and hit her a bunch of times..I really don't see how she wins this against ALL these people...like I said...bats alone has already taken down her fiercest amazon..I know that it wasn't wonder woman but that's still hella impressive for a feat BY HIMSELF...add in all these other heroes I don't see how she wins...
Originally posted by jinzin
just like you're basing you're whole argument on wonder woman moving faster than impulse speed throughout the entire fight..... if deathstroke already gave her a hell of a run and hit her a bunch of times..I really don't see how she wins this against ALL these people...like I said...bats alone has already taken down her fiercest amazon..I know that it wasn't wonder woman but that's still hella impressive for a feat BY HIMSELF...add in all these other heroes I don't see how she wins...
So wait...you base this whole fight on one fight with Deathstroke? 🤨
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So wait...you base this whole fight on one fight with Deathstroke? 🤨
I'm basing this whole fight on the amount of a threat that deathstroke is from all of his feats against ridiculously powered foes....and the fact that all he needs is a split second to take this and win it...
Originally posted by jinzin
just like you're basing you're whole argument on wonder woman moving faster than impulse speed throughout the entire fight..... if deathstroke already gave her a hell of a run and hit her a bunch of times..I really don't see how she wins this against ALL these people...like I said...bats alone has already taken down her fiercest amazon..I know that it wasn't wonder woman but that's still hella impressive for a feat BY HIMSELF...add in all these other heroes I don't see how she wins...
That's akin to saying because Captain American took out a couple of Asgardians that he can beat Thor. That's also akin to saying that because Captain America landed some shots on King Thor in The Reigning that he's a worthy opponent. He's not.
WW doesn't have to move faster than Impulse speed. She's already the fastest person on the battlefield, right? Nobody is faster. Deathstroke can sneak in a punch here or there, but that's nothing. Deathstroke SURVIVED against Wonder Woman, he never hurt her. As soon as she got serious, that was it for Deathstroke.
No one but Deathstroke has superhuman strength. No one has superhuman speed. Like I said, she can keep her distance by using superior running speed, then attack them one by one, or just grab one of them and throw them at escape velocity into others. Or she can thunderclap them Hulk style. Or pick up cars and trees and beat the hell out of them. Or uproot the ground from under them. Or pick up stones and snipe them with them. There are A LOT more things she can do to end this fight than vice versa.
Originally posted by jinzin
that makes no sense.....in any case artimes beat supergirl...batman beat artimes....
Artemes did NOT beat Supergirl in a fight. They were sword dueling as an exercise, something Supergirl had never done before and Artemes won the duel. Wonder Woman said herself that Artemes sword would have broken against Supergirl's skin if she struck, and Superman later said that Supergirl could single-handedly take down the entire island if she wanted to. So that proves nothing, unless you're trying to say Batman can beat Supergirl H2H. And I KNOW you're not trying to say that...are you?
Originally posted by demigawd
Artemes did NOT beat Supergirl in a fight. They were sword dueling as an exercise, something Supergirl had never done before and Artemes won the duel. Wonder Woman said herself that Artemes sword would have broken against Supergirl's skin if she struck, and Superman later said that Supergirl could single-handedly take down the entire island if she wanted to. So that proves nothing, unless you're trying to say Batman can beat Supergirl H2H. And I KNOW you're not trying to say that...are you?
what..supergirl had been training for months....artimes kicked her legs ot from under her and gained the leverage to secure a win and then supes interffered....that's a win....superman said she had wnough power to take on the island and wonder woman agreed sure..but she also said it's how one knows how to use the power they've got obviously batman isn't going to win h2h but he has the tools to be considered a serious threat here...
Originally posted by jinzin
after she got serious...and he still hit her.....all he needs is one shot...and it's over..same with wolverine, same with midnighter, same with batman, same with cap, same with BP, same with taskmaster, same with batgirl....yadda yadda yadda...
Thanks for the scan. Notice that she really wasn't trying to hit Deathstroke that whole fight. She fliped him, tripped him, did everything she could to NOT hit him. she finally said enough of this, and with a smirk, gut punched him ONCE and ended it. Just like that. She was basically toying with him.
No way any of those people can knock out WONDER WOMAN, peer of SUPERMAN in one shot. None. Not one. She could stand there and say "take your best shot", and nobody is going to take her out with one shot. Not Deathstroke, not Wolverine, not Iron Fist. No one.
Originally posted by jinzin
what..supergirl had been training for months....artimes kicked her legs ot from under her and gained the leverage to secure a win and then supes interffered....that's a win....superman said she had wnough power to take on the island and wonder woman agreed sure..but she also said it's how one knows how to use the power they've got obviously batman isn't going to win h2h but he has the tools to be considered a serious threat here...
That's not evidence of anything. Of course Artemis is capable of tripping Supergirl. It's just a matter of leverage. What would Artemis have done next? Stabbed her? Her sword would have broken. Punched her? She'd break her own hand. Artemis would have been utterly useless if she tried to follow up. You think Supergirl couldn't end Artemis' life in a nanosecond if, say, she went up against Artemis instead of Superman after Darkseid programmed her?
<<<"Thanks for the scan. Notice that she really wasn't trying to hit Deathstroke that whole fight. She fliped him, tripped him, did everything she could to NOT hit him. she finally said enough of this, and with a smirk, gut punched him ONCE and ended it. Just like that. She was basically toying with him.">>>
and yet for all of you insightful attributes about her, her speed didn't help her from getting pummeled in the first 3 quarters of this fight...
<<<<'No way any of those people can knock out WONDER WOMAN, peer of SUPERMAN in one shot. None. Not one. She could stand there and say "take your best shot", and nobody is going to take her out with one shot. Not Deathstroke, not Wolverine, not Iron Fist. No one.">>>
actually wolverine would end her life with one hit..anyone could do with with a sharp object right?
<<<"That's not evidence of anything. Of course Artemis is capable of tripping Supergirl. It's just a matter of leverage. What would Artemis have done next? Stabbed her? Her sword would have broken. Punched her? She'd break her own hand. Artemis would have been utterly useless if she tried to follow up. You think Supergirl couldn't end Artemis' life in a nanosecond if, say, she went up against Artemis instead of Superman after Darkseid programmed her?">>>
i think she could beat artemis of course..but in a nanosecond? hmmm I'm still deciding....I mean she was holding her own against those doomsday clones.
Originally posted by jinzin
<<<"Thanks for the scan. Notice that she really wasn't trying to hit Deathstroke that whole fight. She fliped him, tripped him, did everything she could to NOT hit him. she finally said enough of this, and with a smirk, gut punched him ONCE and ended it. Just like that. She was basically toying with him.">>>and yet for all of you insightful attributes about her, her speed didn't help her from getting pummeled in the first 3 quarters of this fight...
Pummeled is an overstatement. She was being toying with him and being kindly because, well, who is he? Just some guy 1/20th her strength. It's like letting your three year old kid wail away on your stomach until he accidentally smashes your nuts, then you figure, "ok, that's enough of that" and throw your kid out the window. Fight over.
Oh. Er....
<<<<'No way any of those people can knock out WONDER WOMAN, peer of SUPERMAN in one shot. None. Not one. She could stand there and say "take your best shot", and nobody is going to take her out with one shot. Not Deathstroke, not Wolverine, not Iron Fist. No one.">>>actually wolverine would end her life with one hit..anyone could do with with a sharp object right?
I don't even think Wolverine could do it, honestly. She's got tough skin. I don't think he could kill her in one shot. And certainly none of the rest of them.
<<<"That's not evidence of anything. Of course Artemis is capable of tripping Supergirl. It's just a matter of leverage. What would Artemis have done next? Stabbed her? Her sword would have broken. Punched her? She'd break her own hand. Artemis would have been utterly useless if she tried to follow up. You think Supergirl couldn't end Artemis' life in a nanosecond if, say, she went up against Artemis instead of Superman after Darkseid programmed her?">>>i think she could beat artemis of course..but in a nanosecond? hmmm I'm still deciding....I mean she was holding her own against those doomsday clones.
Either way, you must ackcnowledge that you can't use her sparring session with Artemis as any kind of predictor of anything whatsoever. You only saw a REAL fighting Supergirl against Superman...and she damn near wasted him.
<<"Pummeled is an overstatement. She was being toying with him and being kindly because, well, who is he? Just some guy 1/20th her strength. It's like letting your three year old kid wail away on your stomach until he accidentally smashes your nuts, then you figure, "ok, that's enough of that" and throw your kid out the window. Fight over.
Oh. Er....">>>
ummm deathstroke was messing her up the entire fight he even seemed to have knocked the wind out of her....one would think with the speed of mercury bit that she would move out of the way maybe she likes being hurt..orrrrrr....maybe she couldn't do jack about it cause she doesn't fight at that speed......
<<<"I don't even think Wolverine could do it, honestly. She's got tough skin. I don't think he could kill her in one shot. And certainly none of the rest of them.">>>
tougher than hulks? is sharp objects not her weakness?
<<<"Either way, you must ackcnowledge that you can't use her sparring session with Artemis as any kind of predictor of anything whatsoever. You only saw a REAL fighting Supergirl against Superman...and she damn near wasted him.">>>
okay I admit it wasn't the best analogy..but I still think that it says something about batman being a threat here....but I can use it to predict that artemis has much more strength than prevously assumed...otherwise supergirl would have creamed artemis with the sword...by your own admission she didn't have a lot of skill with a sword right? do you know how hard it is to control a weapon without said skill? consider her superstrength..... suddenly the fact that artemis' strength didn't collapse in the process of the swords clashing is much more impressive....
Originally posted by jinzin
[B]<<"Pummeled is an overstatement. She was being toying with him and being kindly because, well, who is he? Just some guy 1/20th her strength. It's like letting your three year old kid wail away on your stomach until he accidentally smashes your nuts, then you figure, "ok, that's enough of that" and throw your kid out the window. Fight over.Oh. Er....">>>
ummm deathstroke was messing her up the entire fight he even seemed to have knocked the wind out of her....one would think with the speed of mercury bit that she would move out of the way maybe she likes being hurt..orrrrrr....maybe she couldn't do jack about it cause she doesn't fight at that speed......
She did do jack about it. She said, "that's enough" quite calmly, gut punched him once and that was the end of the fight.
She's beaten Flash and most of the rest of the JLA while blind. You don't think she could beat a bunch of streets with her full sight when written correctly? Like I said, she could Thunderclap Hulk style and take half of them out. She can blow the rest of them away...literally, with the same superbreath all major league powerhouses have. I just keep naming possibilities here. If you want to account for someone getting in a lucky shot, then it's good for one victory in a ten fight series. But given that WW is stronger and faster than all of them COMBINED, she takes the VAST majority here. You don't agree?