JLA vs Odin

Originally posted by Priest
The Silver Surfer can own anyone on this JLA roster like no tommorw.
Look wat Odin does to surfer.

Also wat can the JLA do to Odin?
in the fight with thanos, thanos was givin Odin his all,(after his fisrt upgrade), and Odin just brushed thanos blow/blast off like nothing. JLA wont be able to hurt him. In Asugard Odin has a unlimited power supply.

Again, you must not know very much about Fate. At his highest showings, he would be a match alone for Odin. DF would beat SS.

Originally posted by Priest
The Silver Surfer can own anyone on this JLA roster like no tommorw.
Look wat Odin does to surfer.

Also wat can the JLA do to Odin?
in the fight with thanos, thanos was givin Odin his all,(after his fisrt upgrade), and Odin just brushed thanos blow/blast off like nothing. JLA wont be able to hurt him. In Asugard Odin has a unlimited power supply.

Priest are you ignorant or a fanboy? Flash could murder Silver Surfer, I provided scans that Flash can move at 940,0000 times the speed of light.

Secondly I provided Scans that Flash can steal kinitic energy from anything and anyone including the Anti-Monitor.

And Thirdly I provided scans that Flash has the power to hurt and destroy the Anti-Monitor which blows Odin out of the water in power and toughness.

Finally I also provided Scans that show Flash can lend speed to others ala the JLA.

Do you really think that Odin has Multiversal power ? IMO ,You are clutching to straws if you think that very OLD comic is an accurate depiction of Odins power. If he can really cause Multiversal shaking blasts (Blasts that would make the BIG FRINKIN BANG look like a fire cracker), why did his son faint like a little ***** after restoring the moon ?

It all depends on the version of Odin being used.

This thread is using the same Odin that Thanos fought which IMO wasn't that impressive if Thanos alone stood up to him and all that happened was some back and forth blasting.

This JLA lineup>Thanos

Originally posted by Jesse7
Priest are you ignorant or a fanboy? Flash could murder Silver Surfer, I provided scans that Flash can move at 940,0000 times the speed of light.

Secondly I provided Scans that Flash can steal kinitic energy from anything and anyone including the Anti-Monitor.

And Thirdly I provided scans that Flash has the power to hurt and destroy the Anti-Monitor which blows Odin out of the water in power and toughness.

Finally I also provided Scans that show Flash can lend speed to others ala the JLA.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Do you just ignore my post? I provided evidence and scans that Flash with the JLA could destroy Odin before he knows whats even happening.

Didn't ignore you lady. Just disregarded your opinions.

Flash is somewhat of a science based guy.

Odin is magic to the roots.

Flash can't speed deal with magically powered beings at times. Odin is vastly magically powerful. Vastly.

And the flash you're debating is dead. Has been for a while. Like, 20 years.

And that antimatter stuff that you said he survives? It killed him.

And again, the imp thing you're throwing out.......Just one taxes him immensely.

And you best believe its gonna take a few to even hurt Odin.

JLA can win. But Flash isn't going to be the secret weapon.

I'll make this quick. Odin grows bored.
And then dimensionally shifts to the remains of Asgard.

He looks back, and throws out a galaxy busting blast.

JLA lose. Unless GL is on his A game. And then, while GL is holding that one back, Odin throws out another blast.

Game over.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Do you really think that Odin has Multiversal power ? IMO ,You are clutching to straws if you think that very OLD comic is an accurate depiction of Odins power. If he can really cause Multiversal shaking blasts (Blasts that would make the BIG FRINKIN BANG look like a fire cracker), why did his son faint like a little ***** after restoring the moon ?

That and Surtur killed Odin, Surtur is a being who isnt even universal in power ^_^, that and Set captured and held Odin prisoner against his will, again Set isn't even close to universal.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Do you really think that Odin has Multiversal power ? IMO ,You are clutching to straws if you think that very OLD comic is an accurate depiction of Odins power. If he can really cause Multiversal shaking blasts (Blasts that would make the BIG FRINKIN BANG look like a fire cracker), why did his son faint like a little ***** after restoring the moon ?

Thor isn't Odin. He didn't have the wisdom of his father, thus wasn't as powerful as his father.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Didn't ignore you lady. Just disregarded your opinions.

Flash is somewhat of a science based guy.

Odin is magic to the roots.

Flash can't speed deal with magically powered beings at times. Odin is vastly magically powerful. Vastly.

And the flash you're debating is dead. Has been for a while. Like, 20 years.

And that antimatter stuff that you said he survives? It killed him.

And again, the imp thing you're throwing out.......Just one taxes him immensely.

And you best believe its gonna take a few to even hurt Odin.

JLA can win. But Flash isn't going to be the secret weapon.

I'll make this quick. Odin grows bored.
And then dimensionally shifts to the remains of Asgard.

He looks back, and throws out a galaxy busting blast.

JLA lose. Unless GL is on his A game. And then, while GL is holding that one back, Odin throws out another blast.

Game over.

I don't think so, unlike you I have provided scans, and yes the Anti-Monitor feat was performed by Barry Allen, but thats the point Barry Allen is weaker and slower then Wally West. Now if Barry Allen could do that to the AM then Wally West could rip Odin to pieces, secondly Flash has dealt and defeated magic based opponents.

Do you really think that by claiming Flash is science and Odin is magic that Flash cannt kill Odin? Please, give me a break, Flash has dealt with and fought beings that are magic, cosmic, and skyfather based, DS for example. So dont try to tell me Flash cannot hurt or kill Odin, and thirdly Flash has moved at 940,0000 times the speed of light and has shown to be able to lend his speed to others, so you have him and the entire JLA moving at 940,0000 times the speed of light well Odin (whos kinitic energy has been taken) isn't moving at all.

I have provided scans showing that Flash can take kinitic energy from anythign including the AM

I have provided scans that Flash can lend speed to anything and anyone

I have also provided scans that Flash has moved at 940,0000 times the speed of light before

Originally posted by Jesse7
I don't think so, unlike you I have provided scans, and yes the Anti-Monitor feat was performed by Barry Allen, but thats the point Barry Allen is weaker and slower then Wally West. Now if Barry Allen could do that to the AM then Wally West could rip Odin to pieces, secondly Flash has dealt and defeated magic based opponents.

Do you really think that by claiming Flash is science and Odin is magic that Flash cannt kill Odin? Please, give me a break, Flash has dealt with and fought beings that are magic, cosmic, and skyfather based, DS for example. So dont try to tell me Flash cannot hurt or kill Odin, and thirdly Flash has moved at 940,0000 times the speed of light and has shown to be able to lend his speed to others, so you have him and the entire JLA moving at 940,0000 times the speed of light well Odin (whos kinitic energy has been taken) isn't moving at all.

I have provided scans showing that Flash can take kinitic energy from anythign including the AM

I have provided scans that Flash can lend speed to anything and anyone

I have also provided scans that Flash has moved at 940,0000 times the speed of light before

Miss, DC comics has printed that Flash can't speedsteal from magical beings.
He tried to do so to WW, but since she's magically powered, he couldn't do it.

Odin is the same, but leagues above.

And Wally is faster than Barry.

But Barry knew tricks out the ass when it came to speed.

Wally isn't Barry.
His feats don't count for Wally.

And the whole do the math thing from JLA: Trial By Fire is pointless, when the comic itself states he was only at near lightspeed.
Impossible, but they printed it.

And i doubt if Flash could even phase Odin. Truly i do.

As said before, one imp taxes him like hell.
You think he can do an infinite number of them?? lmao!

Flash can stop the AM, but he gets handled by Superman and Supergirl??

Flash has high showings and low ones, like everybody else.
It just raised his average.

And thats Barry's average.
Not Wally's.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Miss, DC comics has printed that Flash can't speedsteal from magical beings.
He tried to do so to WW, but since she's magically powered, he couldn't do it.

Odin is the same, but leagues above.

And Wally is faster than Barry.

But Barry knew tricks out the ass when it came to speed.

Wally isn't Barry.
His feats don't count for Wally.

And the whole do the math thing from JLA: Trial By Fire is pointless, when the comic itself states he was only at near lightspeed.
Impossible, but they printed it.

And i doubt if Flash could even phase Odin. Truly i do.

As said before, one imp taxes him like hell.
You think he can do an infinite number of them?? lmao!

Flash can stop the AM, but he gets handled by Superman and Supergirl??

Flash has high showings and low ones, like everybody else.
It just raised his average.

And thats Barry's average.
Not Wally's.

Wow trying to pull the "its stated in a hand book so its law/DC stated it" card on me ? How trivial, secondly Wally West has surpassed Barry Allen, care to list any tricks Barry has over Wally? Secondly Wally can do everything Barry has and more.

You doubt Flash could phase Odin....yeah uh huh Odin is going to take a hit going at 940,0000 times the speed of light with the power of a exploding white dwarf star, do you know what E=mc2 is, do you know that if you took the mass and power of a average White dwarf star going nova (exploding) and then rammed it at some thing going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, and then even further condensed it into the size of a fist....do you know the power and impact of that? I didn't think so

Ever heard of comic book statements and hand books yeah I could pull that out right now and use it against Odin, oo how about when Odin moved the moon and it COMPLETELY taxed him; well I guess that means that is Odins limit huh?. Wally can do everything I listed, he can steal kinitic energy as Barry has done from the AM, not only has Wally and I provided scans for it, lent and stole kinitic energy on his own, I also provided scans showing Barry (who is slower and weaker then Wally as has been shown countless times) was able to steal the AM's kinitic energy and then use his own speed to destroy the AM who is far tougher and stronger then Odin. The point of it is that Wally could do even better.

You can try to pull handbooks out of me all you want, DC may say some thing but if Flash shows he can do it in the comics then he can do it here, or do I need to refer you to the rules of the forum which state that one time powers and showings can be used in debates?

DC can state all it wants, but if its shown in the comics its cannon to use here, other wise Batman would only be peak human, care to debate me that Batman is only peak human because DC claims that he is? Because he has feats that are on superhuman level of strength, such as kicking down a steel vault door at a bank with one kick.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Miss, DC comics has printed that Flash can't speedsteal from magical beings.
He tried to do so to WW, but since she's magically powered, he couldn't do it.

Odin is the same, but leagues above.

And Wally is faster than Barry.

But Barry knew tricks out the ass when it came to speed.

Wally isn't Barry.
His feats don't count for Wally.

And the whole do the math thing from JLA: Trial By Fire is pointless, when the comic itself states he was only at near lightspeed.
Impossible, but they printed it.

And i doubt if Flash could even phase Odin. Truly i do.

As said before, one imp taxes him like hell.
You think he can do an infinite number of them?? lmao!

Flash can stop the AM, but he gets handled by Superman and Supergirl??

Flash has high showings and low ones, like everybody else.
It just raised his average.

And thats Barry's average.
Not Wally's.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Thor isn't Odin. He didn't have the wisdom of his father, thus wasn't as powerful as his father.

Although Thor easilly defeated two characters who where more powerful than Odin .... I.e. Mangog and the Destroyer. I've also heard a lot people Claim that King Thor was a lot more powerful than his Dad, especially in threads where it is King Thor vs the JLA 😏

Originally posted by Priest
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HMM Anit monitor- a multiversal threat
Flash able to hurt a multiversal power--PIS

I guess thats all you can resort to now is calling it PIS, face it that it is one of Flash's feats and that Wally surpasses Barry in power and speed.

You can call it PIS all you want but Flash did it and Wally could do the same to Odin.

P.S. The only reason Barry died after fighting the AM is because he went so fast he merged with the speed force, Wally is able to go in and out of the speed force at will.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Wow trying to pull the "it happens in comics so its cannon" card on me ? How trivial, secondly Wally West has surpassed Barry Allen, care to list any tricks Barry has over Wally? Secondly Wally can do everything Barry has and more.

You doubt Flash could phase Odin....yeah uh huh Odin is going to take a hit going at 940,0000 times the speed of light with the power of a exploding white dwarf star, do you know what E=mc2 is, do you know that if you took the mass and power of a average White dwarf star going nova (exploding) and then rammed it at some thing going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, and then even further condensed it into the size of a fist....do you know the power and impact of that? I didn't think so

Ever heard of comic book statements and hand books yeah I could pull that out right now and use it against Odin, oo how about when Odin moved the moon and it COMPLETELY taxed him; well I guess that means that is Odins limit huh?. Wally can do everything I listed, he can steal kinitic energy as Barry has done from the AM, not only has Wally and I provided scans for it, lent and stole kinitic energy on his own, I also provided scans showing Barry (who is slower and weaker then Wally as has been shown countless times) was able to steal the AM's kinitic energy and then use his own speed to destroy the AM who is far tougher and stronger then Odin. The point of it is that Wally could do even better.

You can try to pull handbooks out of me all you want, DC may say some thing but if Flash shows he can do it in the comics then he can do it here, or do I need to refer you to the rules of the forum which state that one time powers and showings can be used in debates?

DC can state all it wants, but if its shown in the comics its cannon to use here, other wise Batman would only be peak human, care to debate me that Batman is only peak human? Because he has feats that are on superhuman level of strength, such as kick down a steel vault door at a bank with one kick.

But when Flash tried to speedsteal from a magical being, it failed. Why?? Cuz magic is what powers her, not science.
Where do we learn about kinetic and potential energy?? Science Class.

Flash tried, and failed. Why are you making the fuss now??
Cuz he did it to the AM??
Well, the AM was a creature of science.
The fact that it was pretty much a robot tells me so.

And at best, the imp is a top tier level punch.

Odin doesn't blink from those.

Flash hit the guy with a punch like a white dwarf, but the planet survived??
He did oneshot a Superman level baddie. True.
But Odin isn't a superman level baddie.

He's way above Superman level.

Are you really arguing this??

Wanna go high end?? Fine.

Odin summons the mold of mjnollir and a ton of uru.
He carves a new hammer out the stone with a finger, and then uses the makeshift weapon to steal the souls of the JLA.

Mjnollir has manipulated souls before.......Why not swallow that method??

You know why?? Cuz its not likely!

I should've known not to try debating with a woman.

IF the Jla were to face Odin, They surely wouldn't come to this fight not ready. Superman wouldnt' even be there. They would have Phantom Stranger, Fate, Zatanna, WW, Captain Marvel, And Green Lantern and maybe zuriel. who's cry from god can destroy anything. This line up that was picked was an obvious way for odin to get a win. Odin couldn't possibly beat the line up I just mentioned.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Although Thor easilly defeated two characters who where more powerful than Odin .... I.e. Mangog and the Destroyer. I've also heard a lot people Claim that King Thor was a lot more powerful than his Dad, especially in threads where it is King Thor vs the JLA 😏

That wasn't me.

King Thor had some decent showings, but Odin has him outclassed in feats.

And to be honest, i don't think many on this board actually know there's a difference between King Thor and RKT.

Originally posted by UniOmni
But when Flash tried to speedsteal from a magical being, it failed. Why?? Cuz magic is what powers her, not science.
Where do we learn about kinetic and potential energy?? Science Class.

Flash tried, and failed. Why are you making the fuss now??
Cuz he did it to the AM??
Well, the AM was a creature of science.
The fact that it was pretty much a robot tells me so.

And at best, the imp is a top tier level punch.

Odin doesn't blink from those.

Flash hit the guy with a punch like a white dwarf, but the planet survived??
He did oneshot a Superman level baddie. True.
But Odin isn't a superman level baddie.

He's way above Superman level.

Are you really arguing this??

Wanna go high end?? Fine.

Odin summons the mold of mjnollir and a ton of uru.
He carves a new hammer out the stone with a finger, and then uses the makeshift weapon to steal the souls of the JLA.

Mjnollir has manipulated souls before.......Why not swallow that method??

You know why?? Cuz its not likely!

I should've known not to try debating with a woman.

He has stolen and provided speed to Wonder Woman, whose powers are magical by nature.

Originally posted by UniOmni
But when Flash tried to speedsteal from a magical being, it failed. Why?? Cuz magic is what powers her, not science.
Where do we learn about kinetic and potential energy?? Science Class.

Flash tried, and failed. Why are you making the fuss now??
Cuz he did it to the AM??
Well, the AM was a creature of science.
The fact that it was pretty much a robot tells me so.

And at best, the imp is a top tier level punch.

Odin doesn't blink from those.

Flash hit the guy with a punch like a white dwarf, but the planet survived??
He did oneshot a Superman level baddie. True.
But Odin isn't a superman level baddie.

He's way above Superman level.

Are you really arguing this??

Wanna go high end?? Fine.

Odin summons the mold of mjnollir and a ton of uru.
He carves a new hammer out the stone with a finger, and then uses the makeshift weapon to steal the souls of the JLA.

Mjnollir has manipulated souls before.......Why not swallow that method??

You know why?? Cuz its not likely!

I should've known not to try debating with a woman.

Wow bringing sex into this now, how immature now do you see why females do not openly tell their sex online. Secondly okay lets go high end then, ever heard of King Come flash? Yeah I thought so, but I wont even use him as an example Ill use normal Flash, oo Odin isn't going to flinch from a exploding White Dwarf star going at 940,0000 times the speed of light.

Want to know why the planet or galaxy didn't instantly implode? Because he wasn't going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, the forum rules state that in a match all characters are blood lusted and going all out unless other wise stated, so Wally is going to be doing (all he needs is one) a IMP at the speed of 940,0000, use E=mc2 to figure out of the mass and impact from that, Odin has flinched and DIED from far less power such as Surtur, this IMP would completely destroy ODin along with the galaxy.

And if it does destroy the Galaxy, Wally recites the speed formula stops time gathers all his allies and moves them else where so he doesn't need to kill his own team.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
He has stolen and provided speed to Wonder Woman, whose powers are magical by nature.

That alone shows Wally can steal Odin's kinitic energy, he has more kinitic stealing feats showing that he can steal anyone and anythings kinitic energy regardless of their base magic or not, then he has against him saying he cant.

You want to use one time low showings saying that he can't steal or lend from magical based beings? Then Ill use a low showing for Odin too, Odin once tried to move the moon, it completely taxed him to the point where he wouldn't even be able to throw a punch or run a block.