JLA vs Odin

Originally posted by Jesse7
Wow bringing sex into this now, how immature now do you see why females do not openly tell their sex online. Secondly okay lets go high end then, ever heard of King Come flash? Yeah I thought so, but I wont even use him as an example Ill use normal Flash, oo Odin isn't going to flinch from a exploding White Dwarf star going at 940,0000 times the speed of light.

Want to know why the planet or galaxy didn't instantly implode? Because he wasn't going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, the forum rules state that in a match all characters are blood lusted and going all out unless other wise stated, so Wally is going to be doing (all he needs is one) a IMP at the speed of 940,0000, use E=mc2 to figure out of the mass and impact from that, Odin has flinched and DIED from far less power such as Surtur, this IMP would completely destroy ODin along with the galaxy.

And if it does destroy the Galaxy, Wally recites the speed formula stops time gathers all his allies and moves them else where so he doesn't need to kill his own team.

Mate you need to learn alot about Special relativity. I hate when people state ignorant things such Moon moving punches traveling at the speed of sound, its just plain stupid.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Mate you need to learn alot about Special relativity. I hate when people state ignorant things such Moon moving punches traveling at the speed of sound, its just plain stupid.

I need to learn about Special relativity....lol

Let me explain to you what E=MC2 is, lets begin shall we.

E=MC2 simply translates into this, you take any object at any size and then you throw it at any speed, the energy out put or the energy release from that throw when it hits is derived from the mass and the speed.

Thus to put it simply for you, the big rock that hit the earth and theoritically killed all the dinosaurs is explained with E=MC2, that even a small astroid moving at high speeds can cause a huge energy output AKA explosion.

Now Take Flash's IMP (which as stated has the power and mass of a White Dwarf star going nova) and ram it at Odins face going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, using E=MC2 it doesn't take a scientist to see thats going to be a big energy release now does it.

P.S. and to further that energy relsease, since its compacted into the size of a human fist its going to be even more focused.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Let me explain to you what E=MC2 is, lets begin shall we.

E=MC2 simply translates into this, you take any object at any size and then you throw it at any speed, the energy out put or the energy release from that throw when it hits is derived from the mass and the speed.

Thus to put it simply for you, the big rock that hit the earth and theoritically killed all the dinosaurs is explained with E=MC2, that even a small astroid moving at high speeds can cause a huge energy output AKA explosion.

Now Take Flash's IMP (which as stated has the power and mass of a White Dwarf star going nova) and ram it at Odins face going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, using E=MC2 it doesn't take a scientist to see thats going to be a big energy release now does it.

What the hell is his IMP .... If you are talking about his relative Momentum you maths is FAR off.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
What the hell is his IMP .... If you are talking about his relative Momentum you maths is FAR off.

Im not talking about relative momentum! IMP is Infinite Mass Punch, it is a term DC made for Flash. It means Flash can hit with the mass and power of a exploding White Dwarf Star.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I need to learn about Special relativity....lol

Let me explain to you what E=MC2 is, lets begin shall we.

E=MC2 simply translates into this, you take any object at any size and then you throw it at any speed, the energy out put or the energy release from that throw when it hits is derived from the mass and the speed.

Thus to put it simply for you, the big rock that hit the earth and theoritically killed all the dinosaurs is explained with E=MC2, that even a small astroid moving at high speeds can cause a huge energy output AKA explosion.

Now Take Flash's IMP (which as stated has the power and mass of a White Dwarf star going nova) and ram it at Odins face going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, using E=MC2 it doesn't take a scientist to see thats going to be a big energy release now does it.

Not to sound iffy or anything but shouldn't the E=MC2 be void when using the Flash...I mean objects apparently get lighter when they approach the speed of light right...but the Flash at his high speeds surpasses that and gets heavier by breaking the Speed of Light which breaks the whole E=MC2 thing...and brings down science....so shouldn't we just leave it as it is an just accept that the flash performs an IMP by breaking all scientific laws....

Originally posted by Jesse7
Wow bringing sex into this now, how immature now do you see why females do not openly tell their sex online. Secondly okay lets go high end then, ever heard of King Come flash? Yeah I thought so, but I wont even use him as an example Ill use normal Flash, oo Odin isn't going to flinch from a exploding White Dwarf star going at 940,0000 times the speed of light.

Want to know why the planet or galaxy didn't instantly implode? Because he wasn't going at 940,0000 times the speed of light, the forum rules state that in a match all characters are blood lusted and going all out unless other wise stated, so Wally is going to be doing (all he needs is one) a IMP at the speed of 940,0000, use E=mc2 to figure out of the mass and impact from that, Odin has flinched and DIED from far less power such as Surtur, this IMP would completely destroy ODin along with the galaxy.

And if it does destroy the Galaxy, Wally recites the speed formula stops time gathers all his allies and moves them else where so he doesn't need to kill his own team.

But Jesse, the most famous instance of him using the imp, didn't destroy the planet!! All it did was leave a large crater.

And it doesn't matter how fast he's going when he punches. Once his speed hits infinite, there is no more power to be added. The mass in his hand is infinite. You're basically saying that the reason why his punch didn't break the galaxy, was because he wasn't going as fast as he could. But when you hit infinite, there isn't more to add!!

My logic = Flash does the imp, but since Odin has taken worse, he doesn't blink.
Your logic = Flash does the imp, but going even faster, though before he was already at infinite speeds.

So in essence, you were that one kid on the playground saying " My infinite is more than your infinite!! 😠 "

Miss, the imp is the imp.
Him going faster won't add more, since its already at infinite levels.

DC actually should've called it something else, since for what it is, and what it performs is hella underwhelming.

And it didn't kill the guy he used it on!!

But it'll kill Odin right?

Either you don't know Marvel, or you do, but disregard it anyways!

Show me this scans of this punch causing the solar system to burp, much less the galaxy.

But you can't. Wanna know why??

Cuz the imp, is simply a top tier punch from a street level guy!

The editors at DC wouldn't let Flash get a move that outclasses Superman.
All it does, is give him a heavy weight punch.
A heavy weight punch from a lightweight guy.

And Yahman.

I know i've got a comic where Flash tries a speedsteal on somebody, and it doesn't work due to the magic that powers them.

And i shouldn't have brought gender into it, Jesse. I'm sorry.

But i will say that hindsight clarifies things greatly.

Originally posted by UniOmni
But Jesse, the most famous instance of him using the imp, didn't destroy the planet!! All it did was leave a large crater.

And it doesn't matter how fast he's going when he punches. Once his speed hits infinite, there is no more power to be added. The mass in his hand is infinite. You're basically saying that the reason why his punch didn't break the galaxy, was because he wasn't going as fast as he could. But when you hit infinite, there isn't more to add!!

My logic = Flash does the imp, but since Odin has taken worse, he doesn't blink.
Your logic = Flash does the imp, but going even faster, though before he was already at infinite speeds.

So in essence, you were that one kid on the playground saying " My infinite is more than your infinite!! 😠 "

Miss, the imp is the imp.
Him going faster won't add more, since its already at infinite levels.

DC actually should've called it something else, since for what it is, and what it performs is hella underwhelming.

And it didn't kill the guy he used it on!!

But it'll kill Odin right?

Either you don't know Marvel, or you do, but disregard it anyways!

Show me this scans of this punch causing the solar system to burp, much less the galaxy.

But you can't. Wanna know why??

Cuz the imp, is simply a top tier punch from a street level guy!

The editors at DC wouldn't let Flash get a move that outclasses Superman.
All it does, is give him a heavy weight punch.
A heavy weight punch from a lightweight guy.

And Yahman.

I know i've got a comic where Flash tries a speedsteal on somebody, and it doesn't work due to the magic that powers them.

And i shouldn't have brought gender into it, Jesse. I'm sorry.

But i will say that hindsight clarifies things greatly.

Sigh, listen here, its called a IMP Infinite mass Punch, but its not infinite because if it was who ever he would hit would cease to exist simply.

Thus the name is not what it is, Ill give you another example, The godblast, well Ohmi if its a godblast that means its as strong as its gonna get huh because its called godblast and all so thus it must mean that its at 100% power all the time.

To clear a few things up for you as explained by DC IMP is not a INFINITE MASS PUNCH, its just its name, what it really is is a punch that has the power and mass of a exploding White Dwarf Star.

Now the reason it didnt destroy the galaxy is because Flash wasn't blood lusted nor was he using it to its fullest strength, yeah im sure Flash used it full power and wouldn't mind killing everyone.

Its the same as when Silver Surfer fights, he can destroy planets with cosmic blast, but oh look he has fought on earth many times or other planets and done many many cosmic blast and o lookie the planets didnt explode! Yeah maybe you get it now.

Flash blood lusted using an IMP traveling at 940,0000 timest he speed of light as shown in his evacuation feat, using E=MC2 since hes all sciency and all right Ohmi? Would completely destroy Odin.

P.S. Flash can steal kinitic energy from Magic based and multiversal power level enemies. I.E. hes done it to wonderwoman before and AM (yes it was barry allen who did the AM, but Wally has shown time and time again he can do everything Barry did and more).

P.S.S. going to use the one time he couldnt steal WW's kinitic energy? Well I guess ill use the one time Odin moved the moon and became so taxed he could barely stand.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Im not talking about relative momentum! IMP is Infinite Mass Punch, it is a term DC made for Flash. It means Flash can hit with the mass and power of a exploding White Dwarf Star.

Infinite Mass Punch = Mass of a white dwarf.

Thats so wrong its not funny, and i laugh at anything.

😘

But Jesse, even if it didn't destroy the galaxy, if something on earth hits with the mass and power of an exploding white dwarf, it'll destroy earth at least!

You can't defend the logic. Its not possible.

Do you honestly believe that Flash can beat Odin?

And its called the godblast since it draws out Thors inner energy, that which makes him Thor, and releases it.

Since he's called a God, its called a godblast.
If he was a turd, it'd be called the turdblast.

Originally posted by UniOmni

Miss, the imp is the imp.
Him going faster won't add more, since its already at infinite levels.

Exactly

I think Morison was the one who came up with the whole Infinite Mass punch thing, I maybe wrong .... but you can't take it very seriously. As you said, if his body was achieving anywhere near the mass stated by Special Relativity, the universe would Implode at the Speed of Light. Gravity Warps Space and even if the Ripple caused by such a Dense object existed for a Split Micro Micro Micro Second , needed to cause the physical contact with the white Martian etc, the universe would Implode into a Super Super Massive Black Hole at the Speed of light. IMO u should see the 'Infinite mass punch' as an above Superman punch, nothing more. The figures that Jesse is quoting are just ludicrous.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Infinite Mass Punch = Mass of a white dwarf.

Thats so wrong its not funny, and i laugh at anything.

😘

But Jesse, even if it didn't destroy the galaxy, if something on earth hits with the mass and power of an exploding white dwarf, it'll destroy earth at least!

You can't defend the logic. Its not possible.

Do you honestly believe that Flash can beat Odin?

And its called the godblast since it draws out Thors inner energy, that which makes him Thor, and releases it.

Since he's called a God, its called a godblast.
If he was a turd, it'd be called the turdblast.

Yes I do because going by feats he can, your the one dodging the questions here and trying to make the IMP seem as though it is nothing, who are you trying to play?

Wally didnt destroy the planet because he didnt use the IMP to full power, wow are you thick headed or what, you actually think Wally cannot control his power output?

It's the same as with every other character, Cyclops optic blast he can control how much energy is ouput but regardless of the level it has only one name OPTIC BLAST. It is the same here with Flash he has the IMP but he can control the level of its energy output.

Exactly thats what I wanted you to say, the godblast is called the godblast because hes a so called god just as the IMP is called the IMP because ITS JUST A NAME, the name doesnt define the abilities power or level as I provided with the cyclops example.

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Exactly

I think Morison was the one who came up with the whole Infinite Mass punch thing, I maybe wrong .... but you can't take it very seriously. As you said, if his body was achieving anywhere near the mass stated by Special Relativity, the universe would Implode at the Speed of Light. Gravity Warps Space and even if the Ripple caused by such a Dense object existed for a Split Micro Micro Micro Second , needed to cause the physical contact with the white Martian etc, the universe would Implode into a Super Super Massive Black Hole at the Speed of light. IMO u should see the 'Infinite mass punch' as an above Superman punch, nothing more. The figures that Jesse is quoting are just ludicrous.

I don't see it as an above Superman punch. Since he's done more damage with his own fists.

Jesse is persistent, but so wrong sometimes. She's good peoples though.

But yeah, that has to be one of the worst named powers in comics. So off base its insane.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Yes I do because going by feats he can, your the one dodging the questions here and trying to make the IMP seem as though it is nothing, who are you trying to play?

Wally didnt destroy the planet because he didnt use the IMP to full power, wow are you thick headed or what, you actually think Wally cannot control his power output?

It's the same as with every other character, Cyclops optic blast he can control how much energy is ouput but regardless of the level it has only one name OPTIC BLAST. It is the same here with Flash he has the IMP but he can control the level of its energy output.

Exactly thats what I wanted you to say, the godblast is called the godblast because hes a so called god just as the IMP is called the IMP because ITS JUST A NAME.

Even though he wasn't sure if it was going to work??

So he explicitly says that he's putting his all into it, cuz he's only got this one chance?
You sure he didn't put his back into it, per se?

Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't see it as an above Superman punch. Since he's done more damage with his own fists.

Jesse is persistent, but so wrong sometimes. She's good peoples though.

But yeah, that has to be one of the worst named powers in comics. So off base its insane.

Look at my above comment, its JUST A NAME even you admit it, the actual power of the IMP AS STATED BY DC is the power and mass of a exploding white dwarf star, not a infinite mass, the IMP (infinite mass punch) is just its name, just as a cars name is a Dodge Viper but is it a viper serpent?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Im not talking about relative momentum! IMP is Infinite Mass Punch, it is a term DC made for Flash. It means Flash can hit with the mass and power of a exploding White Dwarf Star.

Yeah, you are suggesting that you increase his mass (The mass of a Exploding White Dwarf Star, id like to see which comic that quotes from by the way, cos i think you are maybe miss quoting) by multiplying that mass by the E (The speed of light), which is incorrect. Its his speed and weight of his hand that makes his fist the equivalent mass of a White Dwarf star i.e. Force = Mass x acceleration.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Look at my above comment, its JUST A NAME even you admit it, the actual power of the IMP AS STATED BY DC is the power and mass of a exploding white dwarf star, not a infinite mass, the IMP (infinite mass punch) is just its name, just as a cars name is a Dodge Viper but is it a viper serpent?

Jesse, did you actually read Terror Incognita??

Originally posted by UniOmni
Even though he wasn't sure if it was going to work??

So he explicitly says that he's putting his all into it, cuz he's only got this one chance?
You sure he didn't put his back into it, per se?

Yes im positive he wasn't putting his all into it, Superman, Silver Surfer, even Thor, are faced with one chance only live or die momments and they dont give it their all even when they say they are.

A prime example of this is in the Marvel Civil war comics, it has been revealed that all this time Cyclops has never give it his all because hes afraid of the dammage he could do.

Yeah Cyclops was fighting ONSLAUGHT and he still didnt give it his all, its the same here with Flash he hasn't give it his all.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't see it as an above Superman punch. Since he's done more damage with his own fists.

Jesse is persistent, but so wrong sometimes. She's good peoples though.

But yeah, that has to be one of the worst named powers in comics. So off base its insane.

Nah ... WonderWoman has quoted it as an Above Superman punch, and it put a White martian into Orbit. I won both the issues. He very rarely uses the IMP punch, as he has to be traveling at Superluminal speeds b4 he can do it. Also i dont think either Waid or G.J. (the most recent Authors of Flash) really understood what Morisson was on about when he invented the IMP. I might be wrong, itt may have appeared b4 Morissons JLA run.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Yes im positive he wasn't putting his all into it, Superman, Silver Surfer, even Thor, are faced with one chance only live or die momments and they dont give it their all even when they say they are.

A prime example of this is in the Marvel Civil war comics, it has been revealed that all this time Cyclops has never give it his all because hes afraid of the dammage he could do.

Yeah Cyclops was fighting ONSLAUGHT and he still didnt give it his all, its the same here with Flash he hasn't give it his all.

Wrong i believe.

Its been revealed that all along Cyke created and held onto his curse, when it really was all in his mind.

P.S. Flash can hit harder then Superman without using a IMP, wonderwoman has stated before that Zoom hits harder then Superman, and Flash has since matched and surpassed Zoom in speed, Speed is what Zoom uses in conjuction with his time control to hit so hard. Wally has gained the same control of time that Zoom has via the speed formula and has passed Zoom in speed since so I think its safe to say Wally can normally hit harder then Superman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Wrong i believe.

Its been revealed that all along Cyke created and held onto his curse, when it really was all in his mind.

No no no, it was said that he has some sort of mental block that holds him back because hes afraid of the dammage he can do, so thus he was in a way retconned that every single one of his optic blast feats were him never trully trying as hard as he could.