Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
If you are saying leg, than imagine being held upside down, your range of attack is severely limited, you don't have the control that you'd usually have...
so now ocks grabbing every apendage AND getting wolverine upside down....WHILE holding wolverine by his wrists.....WHILE avoiding his tenticals being removed?
does anyone else think cord's arguing kind of in reverse here?
If you are saying leg, than imagine being held upside down, your range of attack is severely limited, you don't have the control that you'd usually have...
Ock's missing an arm. He's suspending Logan upside-down by both his legs with one arm and the other has managed to get one of Logan's arms. Now he needs to grab the other one before he can bring him in close to spit in his face. Logan doesn't need a great deal of control - his arm still swings normally. He doesn't need leverage - true katana edges can be laid on a person's palm, and if that person twitches, their hand will be cut cleanly in half. Apply that to Logan's claws, because that's exactly what'll happen to Ock's tentacles if they touch them.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
"Alright, alright, for the sake of debate, let's say Ock takes hold of Wolverine which he's sacrificed at least one tentacle to do."Now what? "
I'm answering this question, everyone on track here?
you're using several different arguments and scenarios to do it....
Originally posted by Wanderer259
Ock's missing an arm. He's suspending Logan upside-down by both his legs with one arm and the other has managed to get one of Logan's arms. Now he needs to grab the other one before he can bring him in close to spit in his face. Logan doesn't need a great deal of control - his arm still swings normally. He doesn't need leverage - true katana edges can be laid on a person's palm, and if that person twitches, their hand will be cut cleanly in half. Apply that to Logan's claws, because that's exactly what'll happen to Ock's tentacles if they touch them.
In THIS situation, ock can still reach his tentacles behind logan after turning him around, logan cannot attack BEHIND himself now can he, not hanging upside down.
Originally posted by Wanderer259
When coming at his wrist? Yes. His arm? Probably not.
Are you imaging what I'm saying though?
If ock has him upside down facing away, hanging from his leg (I'm saying arm myself)
Logan can't slice behind himself, the claws would need to bend.
Ock has that attack versatility, that logan lacks.
this doesn't make any sense...how the **** are the tenticals going to come from behind if docks in front of him.......logan would have had to have already been pinned at the wrists for this to happen.....this scenarios assumes ocks not getting a single tentical cut off before that happens......that's bullshit...it ain't happenin...
Are you imaging what I'm saying though?If ock has him upside down facing away, hanging from his leg (I'm saying arm myself)
Logan can't slice behind himself, the claws would need to bend.
Ock has that attack versatility, that logan lacks.
No, if you don't add the legs in this, then Logan will still get away. With his legs free, Wolverine can wrap them about the tentacle gripping his arm to re-orient himself, and slice either tentacle.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Are you imaging what I'm saying though?If ock has him upside down facing away, hanging from his leg (I'm saying arm myself)
Logan can't slice behind himself, the claws would need to bend.
Ock has that attack versatility, that logan lacks.
I get what you're saying now...but again...assuming ock to be completely unscathed.....he won't be.....if he grabs the legs logan swings to get free...if he goes for the arms he loses apendeges in the process.......
Originally posted by jinzin
this doesn't make any sense...how the **** are the tenticals going to come from behind if docks in front of him.......logan would have had to have already been pinned at the wrists for this to happen.....this scenarios assumes ocks not getting a single tentical cut off before that happens......that's bullshit...it ain't happenin...
Are you listening, ONE tentacle is removed, and he turns logan around.
Now you are just trying to change it to suit you, I've dealt with you doing it,now be creative.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellUpside down by the arm? Is wolverine stiff as a board now?
Are you imaging what I'm saying though?If ock has him upside down facing away, hanging from his leg (I'm saying arm myself)
Logan can't slice behind himself, the claws would need to bend.
Ock has that attack versatility, that logan lacks.
Originally posted by jinzin
I get what you're saying now...but again...assuming ock to be completely unscathed.....he won't be.....if he grabs the legs logan swings to get free...if he goes for the arms he loses apendeges in the process.......
Have you ever tried punching with one arm tied behind your back?
He can remove the tentacles, but he would lose some range....
Ock can take advantage of that, an attack relies on alot of your body, just not ock.