Doc Ock Vs Wolverine

Hey, Cresh!! Check this out!! This is why Wolverine must run in:Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

Originally posted by black robb
Wolverine is built exactly like a flail?

The tentacle is the chain, Wolverine is a double segmented ball.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Why would he need to? The force is going to help him, go play with a flail or a whip and watch the way the heavier object continues along the path whilethe chain is already moving in a different direction.

A flail snaps around so is effective for going up against people with sheilds, because the momentum and flexability of the chain. . .

Which ock has in his tentacles.

Ock has more than one tentacle too, wolverine is dazed, you are going on the luck of him ACCIDENATLY cutting it.

Sounds desperate...

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
[B] Hey, Cresh!! Check this out!! This is why Wolverine must run in:Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates. [/B]

He has selecive reading, and instead of commenting on your point, he's going to commment on mine, which has nothing to do with the debate, like usual.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
[B] Hey, Cresh!! Check this out!! This is why Wolverine must run in [/B]

Ah because he's dumb, and doesn't know how to fight and has no self retraint from martial arts training. . .

Or you know he does, and you are continuing a desperate ploy to win. 🙂

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Which ock has in his tentacles.

Ock has more than one tentacle too, wolverine is dazed, you are going on the luck of him ACCIDENATLY cutting it.

Sounds desperate...

Wolverine is dazed instantly when grabbed. . .

Because he's stiff and rigid when grabbed.

No, he is thrown around by a force that is multiple times stronger then he is. The inertia is so strong that he is not able to move his body. Imagine being swinged around by a machine that astronauts use to train. The G-Force thing. Except that you are hanging from it with your hands. Could you move your legs? No. Wolverine is thrown around by a force that can lift many trucks in the air on same time. His arms are going like this:

He is not goingto be able to move them back from that position.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He has selecive reading, and instead of commenting on your point, he's going to commment on mine, which has nothing to do with the debate, like usual.

#2 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
OH!

Wolverine is dazed instantly when grabbed. . .

No, he is dazed when he is smashed to the floor almost instantly he is grabbed. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, he is thrown around by a force that is multiple times stronger then he is. The inertia is so strong that he is not able to move his body. Imagine being swinged around by a machine that astronauts use to train. The G-Force thing. Except that you are hanging from it with your hands. Could you move your legs? No. Wolverine is thrown around by a force that can lift many trucks in the air on same time. His arms are going like this:

He is not goingto be able to move them back from that position.

😆

Sounds rather dessperate to auto daze and stiffen wolverine upon being grabbed. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No, he is dazed when he is smashed to the floor almost instantly he is grabbed. 🙂

hahaha!! Ock isn't getting cut by accident. He's more than smart enough to swing Wolverine safely; he swings him in an ark over his head forward and back. Anyway, he doesn't need to swing for long. He dazes Logan then gets a hold of his wrists so that he can't use his blades. he then tortures him with his remaining three appendegis.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yup stiff as a board, his spine has no flexability at all.

😆

Sounds rather dessperate to auto daze and stiffen wolverine upon being grabbed. 🙂

Did you read the G-Force thing? Your spine would be stiff as board in that. So would Wolverine's spine be when swinged around by Ock.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's a minor hit that wouldn't daze him bad enough to not beable to recover while being yanked into the air.

And Wolverine isn't going to get free in second it takes Ock to hit him in the pavement again.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Did you read the G-Force thing? Your spine would be stiff as board in that. So would Wolverine's spine be when swinged around by Ock.

G force just bridges the difference between him and I.

Also remember his top half will also snap foreward when the tentacvle changes direction, because its not 1005 Fused rigid.

Wolverine cuts himself free. Right above Doc Oc who's tenticles are all foreward now.

Wolverine falls on Doc Oc by the time he realizes what happened and. . .

Splurt, wolverine wins. 🙂

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And Wolverine isn't going to get free in second it takes Ock to hit him in the pavement again.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because a bit above peak human character, can't do a situp, even though I can.

G force just bridges the difference between him and I.

Also remember his top half will also snap foreward when the tentacvle changes direction, because its not 1005 Fused rigid.

Wolverine cuts himself free. Right above Doc Oc who's tenticles are all foreward now.

Wolverine falls on Doc Oc by the time he realizes what happened and. . .

Splurt, wolverine wins. 🙂

Ah, you could of course do situps when being swirled around by force that can throw cars around with no effort. So could Wolverine. We all know that he is stronger then the strength of tentacles. 🙄 Stronger force prevails. A guy who lifts 900 pounds goes against guy who can lift 400. They run towards each other. Which one will move and who will not? Ock can move Wolverine with such a force that he is simply capable of moving in. And top half will swung forward for like half a second. It is not enough for Wolverine to be able to cut the tentacles away until he is thrown back to the pavement again. After all, Ock is way more faster then Wolverine is. Combine that with the strength of tentacles, and Wolverine doesn't have the time or strength to be able to work in such conditions.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Then he's still not going to have enough force to daze wolverine. Remember slinging him through the air is to gain momentum and force. . . A minor twitch isn't going to do anything. 🙂

Being thrown down with force that is twenty times stronger then you are is not minor twitch.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Ah because he's dumb, and doesn't know how to fight and has no self retraint from martial arts training. . .

Or you know he does, and you are continuing a desperate ploy to win. 🙂

Wait, what? Did I miss something? Like... Wolverine learning to control himself, maybe?
And who ever said wolverine couldn't fight?? Not I. I've seen Wolverine kill many badguys overthe years by running at them and slashing. His style is to run in and attack. Not my fault... Oh, and No, wolverine doesn't have much restraint. too bad.
And whom are you calling desperate? You're like a frickin housewife, man! You haven't even supplied a reason for why Wolverine stands even the slightest chance.
Did you ever wonder how Ock built his arms?? I didn't, bu t you must have, since you seem to think so lowly of him. He's a genius. He's smart. This means that if he ses Wolverine just standing there, he's gonna assume that something's up. Even if (for the sake of arguement, of course) he could beat all he ams one by one, it won't happen. Ock will also wait, if Wolverine can be so patient, so can Ock- more so, for sure.And did you everthink of how hard it is to do situps in the air while going back and forward at gutwrenching speeds? Cuz that's what you seem to thinkLogan is gonna do here. And you are contradicting yourself. If he can curl up or attack Ock while being swung around, why would he have straightened out in the first place? You already argued basing ideas on this htought: he will straighten out. So stop calling everybody else desperate, amit your loss, stop being a baby, and go argue another fight. And I'll lose it if I ever here of you calling anyone else a fanboy.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Being thrown down with force that is twenty times stronger then you are is not minor twitch.

Wolverine's arms can move faster than 60 MPH in short bursts.

That's something you keep forgetting.

61 MPH is the speed of the tentacles.

If we use comic book feats then we can use the ones where Wolverine is moving extreamly fast as well.

Go play with a flail. Note how the heavier ball keeps moving after you snap the chain back in the other direction.

Then play with a double hinged ball flail. note how the very end keeps going after the ball closer to the chain has moved back in the other direction.

When you snap to change direction the force is going to help wolverine reach his feat and cut himself free. . .

Now Wolverine's backward momentum has been cancelled out by the foreward yank. The tentacles however are traveling at 61 mph foreward. . . Wolverine has no momentum and is above Doc OC. . .What's going to happen when you drop and object?

It falls. Straight down. . . onto whatever is below it.

Splurt, Wolverine wins.