Uh, for the last time, QGJ does not even come close to Mace Windu.
Why?
Well, Maul fought a Sith apprentice for the better half of eight minutes and died from a relatively simply attack, while Mace defeated the Sith apprentice's mighty master in half minute.
There is no way Qui Gon is about equal to Mace.
Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Uh, for the last time, QGJ does not even come close to Mace Windu.Why?
Well, Maul fought a Sith apprentice for the better half of eight minutes and died from a relatively simply attack, while Mace defeated the Sith apprentice's mighty master in half minute.
There is no way Qui Gon is about equal to Mace.
1. When you said "Well, Maul" I'm assuming you meant Qui-Gon, right?
2. Maul's attack was not simple if it's the first time you've ever fought an opponent who's using a double bladed lightsaber. And who would expect Maul to use his handle to help him defeat Qui-Gon? And Sidious definately let Mace beat him, but I'm not even going to get into that again like I did with Sorgo.
3. How the hell do you know Qui-Gon doesn't rival Mace? TPM Mace, that is. We never saw him fight.
4. Your the one who said "Why the hell is Cin Drallig in every versus thread now? What's our verification of his actual abilities? None."
Originally posted by darthsith19
1. When you said "Well, Maul" I'm assuming you meant Qui-Gon, right?
2. Maul's attack was not simple if it's the first time you've ever fought an opponent who's using a double bladed lightsaber. And who would expect Maul to use his handle to help him defeat Qui-Gon? And Sidious definately let Mace beat him, but I'm not even going to get into that again like I did with Sorgo.
3. How the hell do you know Qui-Gon doesn't rival Mace? TPM Mace, that is. We never saw him fight.
4. Your the one who said "Why the hell is Cin Drallig in every versus thread now? What's our verification of his actual abilities? None."
You again?
1- I did. He fought Maul for about eight minutes and never gained the advantage.
2- It WAS simple. For a bunch of force using combatants, to be put out of a fight with a handle to the face and then get stabbed with an elaborate thrust reeks of horrible battle readiness and swordsmanship. If anything, all Qui Gon did to Maul was flail away at him and do more than a few pointless spin attacks and twirls. He was dancing more than he was fighting. After he was stabbed, Obi-Wan did more damage in under a minute than Qui Gon did for eight. So please, don't belittle Maul to make Qui Gon Jinn great. He's not.
3- WTF? Changing your tune now? So now Qui Gon is as good as TPM Mace Windu? The same Mace Windu who was a jedi master, second on the council, and had created his own addition to the hardest lightsaber fighting style? The same one who barely lost to Count Dooku? No, that's bullshit and you got it from the novel, not from any real facts. Read this-- Novelisation of movie = author's intepretation of movie events. It's not canon. Not even close.
4. I did, but I'd bet that he could beat Qui gon Jinn, since I could beat Qui Gon Jinn with his sloppy style.
Qui-gon was a Jedi Master. He was one of the main influences in the Stark Hyperspace War.
Let me get some quotes from starwars.com
"Were it not for Qui-Gon's unruly views, he would have undoubtedly been on the Jedi Council."
This says he was council material, while Cin doesn't seem to have unruly veiws like Qui-gon, allowing us to inffer Cin was not.
[QUOTE=4850087]Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Qui-gon was a Jedi Master. He was one of the main influences in the Stark Hyperspace War.
Let me get some quotes from starwars.com
"Were it not for Qui-Gon's unruly views, he would have undoubtedly been on the Jedi Council."
This says he was council material, while Cin doesn't seem to have unruly veiws like Qui-gon, allowing us to inffer Cin was not. [/QUOTE
it is also said cin abilities rival those on the council
It does. He's listed in LOE as a potential danger to Grievious, I believe. Faunus mentioned it before on another post. So Cin has a reputation, if nothing else. And besides, like I said... Qui Gon Jinn is about 80% hype. He was a cool jedi and a bit of a rogue, but he was no master swordsman. His style was very sloppy, even I can see that much.