What exactly is an alpha mutant?

Originally posted by stormfront13
yeah, i like the idea of them having a different raport, if storm was an omega I would love to see her take the mantle of the "goddess" or "bright lady" she is always talking about and/or praying to.

Interesting thought...Kairoan Orphan becoming the very abstract she worships at the moment!
This scenario holds real potential for a religious and philosophical discussion. 😖mart:

Omega-level mutants are mutants whose powers make then capable of ascending to a higher plane of life or activity. This includes Phoenix, Iceman, and Kid Omega.

We know for a fact Cyclops, Beast, and Archangel are not Omegas. Possible other Omegas include Gambit, Cable, Franklin Richards, and Storm...though none have been confirmed.

Alpha-level Mutants are better than Beta-level Mutants. We really don't have anything more specific than that. Apocalypse first coined the term Alpha to refer to mutants who were "strong" according to his philosophy, so I tend to see Betas as mutants whose powers are purely passive or non-offensive in nature, like Cypher.

-from UXM.Net

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Again from UXM.Net:

Beta: Mutants whose powers work on a subconcious level i.e instant decription, technological understanding. Super intelligence is and telepathy are not beta level powers because telepathy requires being able mentally “hear” and communicate with others via telepethy. Even if you are unaware of your powers, i.e young institutionalized Emma Frost you still have the potential to commujnicate with others while supconsious mental abilities have extremly limited potential not to say that that subconsiouc abilities aren’t useful. Super intelligence is also not a beta power because if you were super intellingnet you would know it and use your inteligence conciously.

Alpha: Mutations that cause physical differences (i.e claws, fur, altered biology), energy manipulation of any type, flight, naturally enhanced scensesand strength. Any mental ability that can conciously be used to affect the physical and meta physical plane. Also active powers that depend upon physical contact sucha Rogue and Sebastion Shaw.

Omega: A mutant with the ability (or potental) to exist beyond the physical realm and consciously explore the metaphysical. Immortaly is also a possibility but not a requirerment. (Ice Man died in a What If? issue, the alternat Gambit, the New Sun, exploded after absorbing Remy’s powers, the New Sun killed his reallitys Pheonix)

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Good and simple approach for an explanation!

thanks Jury dear notworthy

No prob, mon chere Paola hug

Originally posted by Jury
Again from UXM.Net:

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what part of UXM is that I can't seem to find it 😑

yeah, I have never seen it either

Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
what part of UXM is that I can't seem to find it 😑

''Omega: A mutant with the ability (or potental) to exist beyond the physical realm and consciously explore the metaphysical. Immortaly is also a possibility but not a requirerment. (Ice Man died in a What If? issue, the alternat Gambit, the New Sun, exploded after absorbing Remy’s powers, the New Sun killed his reallitys Pheonix)''

Apocalypse is immortal. Does that make an omega?

No. False immortality. Besides he's dead. 😄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No. False immortality. Besides he's dead. 😄

Apocalypse is or was...seemingly immortal...kinda like Mumm-ra on Thundercats

Apoc is not an omega, "just" an alpha-external (bad enough,isn't it?)!

I think I have found proof, or very, very good evidance of storm being an omega. in extreme x-men storm and neal(thunderbird) are having conversation.

neal:rugue said you used to be a goddess?

storm:in the name yes, but I am not quite at that level

neal:joking?

storm just looks at him and smiles.

storm:the difference between humans and mutants is that we control the elements of time. something, something, something, I have even seen a few transcend beyond their pshyical limits(something like that but she is saying something like the description from uxn that jury gave). I MYSELF HAVE EXPIERENCED THAT.

^6she says that she has expierenced it so does that mean she is saying she is an omega? also something was said about not dying(i think) well also in extreme x-men, storm kind of died and when jkean tried to save her storm was with the spirits of her parents and told jean not to worry about her and that everything woulkd be fine. then when jean turned to normal, a little while after that storm came back to life(i am pretty sure she was dead) and had the memories of visiting her parnets spirit.

Conjecture does not equal proof. I know everyone wants their fave to be an omega (I've seen some try to suggest Wolverine... 🙄 ) but until it is written that they are they aren't. Storm is not an omega she is simply a very powerful alpha.

BTW Apocalypse is not an External.

but she has admitted herself that she made the transcend and according to uxn to be an omega you have to make the transcend. sounds pretty on to me

I hope i clear up alot of questions with this...
Over the years various entities have classified mutants into three levels; Beta, Alpha, and Omega. A definite definition for these three levels has never been truly reached. In some cases there have been misinterpretations. The simplest way I can break it down is somewhat like this. A Beta Mutant is a mutant whose mutation affects their physical form. An Alpha Mutant is a mutant whose mutation involves some type of energy absorption or projection. An Omega Mutant is a mutant whose mutation affects the fundamental forces of the universe. Now any mutant has the potential to move up the ladder from Beta to Omega.

Originally posted by stassiss
An Omega Mutant is a mutant whose mutation affects the fundamental forces of the universe. Now any mutant has the potential to move up the ladder from Beta to Omega.

beta and alpha are in an entirely different classification system than omega. also, beta and alpha are not restricted to certain physical/genetic characteristics. cypher is an accepted beta with a non-physical power, beast is an accepted alpha with a physical power (not at all related to energy.) your clarification is undermined by continuity itself.

beta level is generally considered to be the passive/ineffectual mutations (including basic physical mutations like blue skin, or cypher's power,) though a no real definition has been made. alphas are generally accepted to be "better" mutations than betas, be that in terms of power or survival capabilities. in terms of apocalypse's considerations, alphas are those who are "fit to survive" within his mutant-dominated utopia.

omega are completely beyond those, not ranked as such due to power or strength/ability, but on the basis that they have unending potential (also described above as an ability to transcend/consciously explore the metaphysical.) you cannot move from beta/alpha to omega, and you could only really move from beta to alpha through secondary mutation. so you didn't really clear anything up...

I'm sorry wannabe but you seem to be lacking an understanding of what the phoenix force actually is.

You are right when you say it is the essence of creation and destruction but it is not in the form of a phoenix because Jean wants it to be. And she does not simply have a connection to some far off distent force that everyone can connect to, she has the essence of the phoenix force directly inside her and only one person can have it at one one given time.

What the phoenix force is has been explained in past comics a long time ago and it is not what you said it was, your explaination might be right in the ULTIMATE universe but I highly doubt it. Read this site (hem.passagen.se/hggblom1/phoenix/phoenix.htm) and try researching what the phoenix force really is.