Count Dooku and General Grievous vs. Yod and Qui-Gon Jinn

Started by Darth Martin3 pages

Jinn will die fighting Grievous 1on1.

yoda wouldn't let it happen, both masters come out of a fight like this unscathed. Yoda vrs. Grievous would be a short fight, so why would Yoda let Grievous fight Jinn one on one? but what hasn't been mentioned is: Jinn can use the force against Grievous too. I'll take a force user over a droid any day. So Yoda>Dooku>||==Jinn>Grievous.
Jedi come out unscathed.

But Dooku would be just as lethal against Jinn -- if not more so -- than Greivous. You have to keep in mind that Count Dooku was once Qui-Gons master, and knows "every weakness of the Ataru form, with its ridiculous acrobatics". Ataru obviously being Jinn's preferred lightsaber style. Not to mention that the Count's force prowess goes above and beyond anything we have evr seen for Jinn.
In fact, I would go as far as to say that Dooku would beat his old apprentice faster than General Greivous would.

Yoda will make quick work of GG yes, but Jinn will die. GG took on 9 jedi of whom included Ki Adi Mundi, while Mundi didn't die he would have if that team of ARC troopers didn't arrive. Mundi is eqaul to Jinn if not higher considering this is near ROTS.

Originally posted by Gideon
The amusing and decidedly overzealous pro-Dooku ramblings above notwithstanding, why did you bump this thread? Assuming that he is waging battle without sentimental attachments and redemption for Dooku in mind (ie, the mentality he has regarding the Sith Lord after the debacle on Vjun), he will comfortably waste his former protege. Qui-Gon versus Grievous would be interesting, I think. Not that it matters, because if Qui-Gon doesn't win -- Yoda will come on over and manhandle Grievous.

Yoda and Qui-Gon (but mostly Yoda) win.

I didn't see, any overzealous pro Dooku arguments, actually, almost everyone agreed that Yoda wins.
I don't think Yoda is that better, then Dooku as you are saying. In AOTC, Yoda had to stop Dooku from escaping, he had the chance to stop the war, trillions of lives were at stake, the future of all the Galaxy, i wouldn't say, he went easy on him. Lets say, he didn't want to kill him, he still had to break trough his defences, injure him, disarm him, make him surrender, but he didn't succeed in any of this things, Dooku holded his won.

In this fight, Yoda wins, yes.

Dooku takes care of Qui-Gonn, while Yoda takes care of Grievous and then Yoda defeats Dooku.

You'll excuse me, Count Makashi, if I don't take your objection seriously, since you are, yourself, a notorious Dooku fanboy.

Yes Count Dooku held his own for under a minute. Any longer and he'd die thats why he tried to escape.

Qui Gon probably die, but Yoda wins.

Yoda can solo this probably.

QGJ and Yoda own this fight. You're all forgetting that if Yoda is destroying Dooku, then Jinn's gonna have it easy against GG, what with his knowledge of the force. His knowledge combined with ataru's acrobatic nature will kill GG. Yoda will have it tough in a force fight with the count, but once the sabers come out he's won. Plus, by that time i daresay Jinn will have finished GG.

Originally posted by qui-gon-fanboy
QGJ and Yoda own this fight. You're all forgetting that if Yoda is destroying Dooku, then Jinn's gonna have it easy against GG, what with his knowledge of the force. His knowledge combined with ataru's acrobatic nature will kill GG. Yoda will have it tough in a force fight with the count, but once the sabers come out he's won. Plus, by that time i daresay Jinn will have finished GG.

Rewatch the CW series. GG was dodging force attacks from highly skilled masters. He could even stand that Ethorion's powerful breath. Once GG gets in close he will destroy Jinn. He uses Ataru which is all offense and against GG you need to be on the defensive unless your Mace Windu, Yoda, or meybe just meybe Anakin Skywalker. These people have extreme offensive capabilities. The weak link is Jinn here, seeing as to he can't beat Tyranus or Grievous. Whereas Yoda could take both at the same time.

No matter who he faces Qui-gon will go down. He hasn't shown mastery in the force (offensively) on the level Dooku has nor has he shown enough saber skills to match to him. Grievous has shown that he can avoid force maneuvers such as push and he has been trained in all(not vapaad) the forms of saber combat and not to mention his unique style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-8Rx-GqJDM
I can't see Qui-gon beating him.^

Yoda will be the only walking away from this duel in my opinion.

Thank you.

Your welcome for...............

.......complementing on what I said. In other words ~cosigned~.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
.......complementing on what I said. In other words ~cosigned~.

I know I just wanted to hear you say it wink1

Originally posted by Darth Hord
I know I just wanted to hear you say it wink1
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If it's ROTS Grievous, Jinn holds him off until Yoda kills Dooku, then together they pwn Grievous. Not sure about who'd win if it was EU Grievous.

Jinn can't hold Grievous off. In the CW series Vol.2 Grievous disarmed a Ki Adi Mundi in about 3 seconds. He would have killed him if the team of ARC Troopers hadn't of showed up. Ki Adi Mundi is near if not above Jinn's level by then.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Jinn can't hold Grievous off. In the CW series Vol.2 Grievous disarmed a Ki Adi Mundi in about 3 seconds. He would have killed him if the team of ARC Troopers hadn't of showed up. Ki Adi Mundi is near if not above Jinn's level by then.

Qui-Gon was one of the Jedi Order's finest swordsmen, he rivaled [TPM] Mace Windu, and was the finest swordsmen his lightsaber instructor had taught in over 400 years. ROTS Grievous put up a decent fight against ROTS Kenobi so yes, I think Qui-Gon could hold him off for quite some time, he did fend off Maul for a while one on one and Maul was called one of the most powerful Sith Apprentices in history.

I also agree that Mundi is near of above Jinn's level, but Mundi is really good. Have you seen the pic of what he was able to do with the Force when he was fatigued? If not, I can post it here for you. Also, Mundi and the others were exhausted on Hypori even before they fought Grievous, yet an exhausted Ki-Adi Mundi was able to hold off EU General Grievous for over one minute. A lot of people don't realise how long Mundi held off Grievous for one on one, but the team of ARC Troopers find the room where Grievous began fighting the Jedi on Hypori, and all the Jedi are down, except Mundi. It is an entire minute later, to the exact second, before they find Grievous and Mundi fighting, and at that second, Mundi is disarmed and Grievous is about to finish him off. So that means Mundi, alone and exhausted, held off EU General Grievous for at least one minute, so Jinn, who is about on Mundi's level, should be able to hold ROTS General Grievous off for at least a minute and a half. If I remember correctly, Dooku ran from Yoda in AOTC about 50 seconds into their lightsaber duel, and Yoda wasn't going all-out on him. I could see a full-out Yoda taking out Dooku in a minute and a half of less.