Originally posted by Logan 87
Omg I cant agree with it now ?
yet you say i use one argument to explain myself but then you say i dont explain but just agreeContradiction
NO its not you agreeing, its that you can't explain cause you don't seem to know about carnage.
You haven't given any reason YOURSELF as to why they're winning, you haven't debated anything.
After sayign wolverine beats metallo, I question your credibility in these threads.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
NO its not you agreeing, its that you can't explain cause you don't seem to know about carnage.You haven't given any reason YOURSELF as to why they're winning, you haven't debated anything.
After sayign wolverine beats metallo, I question your credibility in these threads.
🙁 Thanks alot Pal. I did say my reason (Bad or Good) you dont say its a debate,argument or explanation on why i think that.
and as for mettalo I said if mettalo hits him more than once he looses, and made a scenario if Wolverine doesnt get hit and gets to mettalo to cut his head off he wins, because its been prooven his metal could be cut because of steal, but no you just make it sound like i said wolverine knocked out mettalo with his strength 🙁
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
He did, but Spiderman beats DD, so you know DD isn't doing it without an outside help.They aren't beating carnage without help at all.
I know your not using that they aint beating carnage without help, because you dont consider that .
I said he dont beat Carnage without sabertooth help too but ...🙁
wolverine and sabretooth are both melee fighters, so they need to get very close to their target
guess what happens if you get close to carnage, his blade tendrils shoot out, and unless you have protection like venom or super agility like spiderman, you're gonna get hurt badly by those tendrils (unlike venom's weak little tendrils, carnages become extensionlike blades that can cut through metal effortlessly)
in other words, in a h2h battle, I can't see how wolverine and sabretooth can beat Carnage without resorting to sonic weapons or heat to weaken him
and as a further point, in these versus matches, you can't always rely on comic book examples as true potential of these characters since writers often make some characters seem weaker in order to balance out the comics
Originally posted by masterbruce
wolverine and sabretooth are both melee fighters, so they need to get very close to their targetguess what happens if you get close to carnage, his blade tendrils shoot out, and unless you have protection like venom or super agility like spiderman, you're gonna get hurt badly by those tendrils (unlike venom's weak little tendrils, carnages become extensionlike blades that can cut through metal effortlessly)
in other words, in a h2h battle, I can't see how wolverine and sabretooth can beat Carnage without resorting to sonic weapons or heat to weaken him
and as a further point, in these versus matches, you can't always rely on comic book examples as true potential of these characters since writers often make some characters seem weaker in order to balance out the comics
THANK YOU!!!
He needs outside help, some always insist on rediculous examples.
Originally posted by masterbruce
wolverine and sabretooth are both melee fighters, so they need to get very close to their targetguess what happens if you get close to carnage, his blade tendrils shoot out, and unless you have protection like venom or super agility like spiderman, you're gonna get hurt badly by those tendrils (unlike venom's weak little tendrils, carnages become extensionlike blades that can cut through metal effortlessly)
in other words, in a h2h battle, I can't see how wolverine and sabretooth can beat Carnage without resorting to sonic weapons or heat to weaken him
and as a further point, in these versus matches, you can't always rely on comic book examples as true potential of these characters since writers often make some characters seem weaker in order to balance out the comics
Sabretooth is a mutant with a number of both natural and artificial improvements to his physiology. He regenerates and heals hundreds of times faster than a normal human, and has recovered completely from injuries that would have killed most humans, even those with superhuman abilities. He can regenerate organs such as eyes and large portions of flesh, yet it is unclear if he is able to regenerate missing limbs and vital organs; this "healing factor" also grants immunity to most toxins (except in massive doses) and diseases, gives him enough stamina to exert himself at peak levels for days, and retards aging to an unknown degree, and gives him enhanced senses, enabling him to see and hear distant objects more clearly than a normal human, and identify and track someone purely by scent. Most notably his eyesight is so keen that he can see in almost complete darkness, just as a nocturnal cat. This may be a result of being able to see into the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum. These senses are actually a result of his constant cellular regeneration as are his enhanced agility and reflexes. He is also superhumanly strong to a certain extent, and his strength has been further enhanced by the Hand and the Weapon X program.
Sabretooth's physical appearance also displays animal-like mutations, including sharper-than-normal teeth with two pronounced canines and retractable claws where ordinary humans have fingernails. His eyes also have no visible pupils. Even without adamantium, his claws and teeth are sufficiently strong enough the rend and tear substances as strong as human bone.
At times, Sabretooth's skeleton and claws have been molecularly laced with nigh-indestructible metal adamantium by Apocalypse, who later removed it and bonded it to Wolverine's bones. Later the Weapon X program bonded adamantium to his bones once more.
Sabretooth is an excellent hand to hand combatant, having been trained by various organizations such as the CIA, Weapon X, the Foreigner, and HYDRA. He is also an expert hunter and tracker, even without the use of his heightened senses. Sabretooth also has developed a high resistance to telepathic probing and manipulation. Although his extreme arrogance gives him the appearance of stupidity, he is actually quite intelligent. He routinely hacks into government data bases to steal classified information and has escaped the highest levels of incarceration
Now, even without that description, we all know both Wolverine and Sabretooth can dodge most of Carnage attacks, like darts from the costume, blades and so, and certainly a hand-axe symbiot made isn't going to cut through adamantium claws, which both Logan and Creed possess and will use to match Carnage in hth fight.
Carnage always relies on lethal weapons and his fists when he fight in close quarters, the tendril on the face trick will not also work very well.
In a Spider-Man issue, Spidey was fighting Carnage in a carpenter fabric, and hurted him through hitting his tendrils with a saw.
So, Wolverine or Creed stabbing or cutting away his tendrils will cause him pain, that he usually doesn't ignore when it's really high or considerable, and they'll be on him, slashing, punching, then Creed will finish him throwing him against a wall and make it collapsing on him.
End of fight.
And Sabretooth or Wolvie can always use the crush against an explosive object like a fuel truck or power generators of electricity, they'll heal back, Carnage will be knocked unconscious.And they'll behead him to be sure he stay on the ground.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Sabretooth is a mutant with a number of both natural and artificial improvements to his physiology. He regenerates and heals hundreds of times faster than a normal human, and has recovered completely from injuries that would have killed most humans, even those with superhuman abilities. He can regenerate organs such as eyes and large portions of flesh, yet it is unclear if he is able to regenerate missing limbs and vital organs; this "healing factor" also grants immunity to most toxins (except in massive doses) and diseases, gives him enough stamina to exert himself at peak levels for days, and retards aging to an unknown degree, and gives him enhanced senses, enabling him to see and hear distant objects more clearly than a normal human, and identify and track someone purely by scent. Most notably his eyesight is so keen that he can see in almost complete darkness, just as a nocturnal cat. This may be a result of being able to see into the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum. These senses are actually a result of his constant cellular regeneration as are his enhanced agility and reflexes. He is also superhumanly strong to a certain extent, and his strength has been further enhanced by the Hand and the Weapon X program.Sabretooth's physical appearance also displays animal-like mutations, including sharper-than-normal teeth with two pronounced canines and retractable claws where ordinary humans have fingernails. His eyes also have no visible pupils. Even without adamantium, his claws and teeth are sufficiently strong enough the rend and tear substances as strong as human bone.
At times, Sabretooth's skeleton and claws have been molecularly laced with nigh-indestructible metal adamantium by Apocalypse, who later removed it and bonded it to Wolverine's bones. Later the Weapon X program bonded adamantium to his bones once more.
Sabretooth is an excellent hand to hand combatant, having been trained by various organizations such as the CIA, Weapon X, the Foreigner, and HYDRA. He is also an expert hunter and tracker, even without the use of his heightened senses. Sabretooth also has developed a high resistance to telepathic probing and manipulation. Although his extreme arrogance gives him the appearance of stupidity, he is actually quite intelligent. He routinely hacks into government data bases to steal classified information and has escaped the highest levels of incarceration
Now, even without that description, we all know both Wolverine and Sabretooth can dodge most of Carnage attacks, like darts from the costume, blades and so, and certainly a hand-axe symbiot made isn't going to cut through adamantium claws, which both Logan and Creed possess and will use to match Carnage in hth fight.
Carnage always relies on lethal weapons and his fists when he fight in close quarters, the tendril on the face trick will not also work very well.
In a Spider-Man issue, Spidey was fighting Carnage in a carpenter fabric, and hurted him through hitting his tendrils with a saw.
So, Wolverine or Creed stabbing or cutting away his tendrils will cause him pain, that he usually doesn't ignore when it's really high or considerable, and they'll be on him, slashing, punching, then Creed will finish him throwing him against a wall and make it collapsing on him.
End of fight.
Great post.
I forgot that carnage can simply remove their vital organs.
Keep in mind that it took the help of FF and venom, for carnage to be defeated.
Great post though... 😮💨
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Great post.I forgot that carnage can simply remove their vital organs.
Keep in mind that it took the help of FF and venom, for carnage to be defeated.
Great post though... 😮💨
Originally posted by K3VIL
It's called fight with special circumstances.
Carnage is sometimes a threat for a city and it took an assemble of heroes for stop him, and sometimes Spidey beat down him alone.
Just like Scorpion, it seems the writers forgot Roxxon Oil upgraded him rending him so strong, durable and fast it took Spidey, Luke Cage, Iron Fist to stop him.
Carnage isn't so powerful that the FF4 can't stop him, especially when aided from Venom and Spidey.
Agreed. You are convincing me that they have a greater chance than I'd thought.
Keep in mind also that even after the Alpha wave gizmo weakened carnage, It took parker, venom, and black cat to subdue him, with brock putting him in generaters.
I know he can lose, but his weakness being exploited is his best bet.
Carnage can rip thier vitals out, something that isn't out of his character at all.