Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm curious about Shadowcat, could you explain that one?
Shadowcat is Kitty Pryde, yes? Her lone power is intangibility, and Spider-Man would be moving in a blur to her. Granted, she could stay intangible and have it be an endless stalemate, but I'm guessing Pete's general stamina is much better. She'd fall asleep or something long before he gave out. Spidey has fought for days on end without rest, and he wouldn't even need to expend that much here.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm glad you put Wolverine at the end, I had been wanting to do that, would it be possible to add to the front page? 😄
I'd be glad to.
Originally posted by DigiYea I guess with CIS on that she wouldn't be doing much, but I saw it as a stalemate unless she got some cheap win, but it would be out of character for her to do it.
Shadowcat is Kitty Pryde, yes? Her lone power is intangibility, and Spider-Man would be moving in a blur to her. Granted, she could stay intangible and have it be an endless stalemate, but I'm guessing Pete's general stamina is much better. She'd fall asleep or something long before he gave out. Spidey has fought for days on end without rest, and he wouldn't even need to expend that much here.I'd be glad to.
Originally posted by MshinuI how much worse. 😖hifty:
I think you already know my awnser to that. Ozzy would smack him down like Cap, only worse.
We have been over the spidey vs skill/ma thing several times before.
As for me pkacing Ozzy slightly above guys like Cap, that is in part based on implied ability/stats rather than what he has actually done. Which I am sure is fanboysh to some.
Anyway this is what I think, not what can be proven. Not that comics are an exact sience anyway. Wtf was with Cap beating up the U-foes for instance.
No other discrepancies in my list? I think I'm pretty fair to Pete, counting all his potential without overstating it.
I can see Kitty being a stalemate though. I guess it just depends on how you see the fight going. Assuming Pete's not an idiot though, he can always just outlast her.
It would be far more contentious if I did the list with, say, Doctor Who. We'd have to form opening stips too, like maybe he starts in teh TARDIS.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Kitty was trained by Ogun. Silver Samurai said she might be even better than Logan.
Which is still negated by the fact she has no way of even getting close to SM if he fights smart. These are forum battles, not comic ones. I assume optimal strategies available to all combatants. And if Pete decides to wait until she falls asleep or dies of starvation, what can she possibly do to counter? She hasn't the speed to tag him if he decides to play keep-away.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
9/10 for spiderman against NC seems really high to me.
Spider-sense warns him for teleportation, he's oodles faster than NC, and one punch would be all he needs to defeat NC. In a forum-style battle, 9/10 is generous to NCer, imo. He could literally sense the teleport before it happens, stick his arm out, and have NCer materialize with Pete's arm inside him. Horribly painful to both, but only fatal to NCer. or just wait until he materializes and punch him with his superior reflexes before NCer can react. He has options.
Originally posted by DigiWouldn't need to punch, just shoot the webbing there so NC materializes with the webbing inside him, not painful for spidey, but potentially lethal for crawler.
Which is still negated by the fact she has no way of even getting close to SM if he fights smart. These are forum battles, not comic ones. I assume optimal strategies available to all combatants. And if Pete decides to wait until she falls asleep or dies of starvation, what can she possibly do to counter? She hasn't the speed to tag him if he decides to play keep-away.Spider-sense warns him for teleportation, he's oodles faster than NC, and one punch would be all he needs to defeat NC. In a forum-style battle, 9/10 is generous to NCer, imo. He could literally sense the teleport before it happens, stick his arm out, and have NCer materialize with Pete's arm inside him. Horribly painful to both, but only fatal to NCer. or just wait until he materializes and punch him with his superior reflexes before NCer can react. He has options.
Originally posted by DigiSpider-sense warns him for teleportation, he's oodles faster than NC, and one punch would be all he needs to defeat NC. In a forum-style battle, 9/10 is generous to NCer, imo. He could literally sense the teleport before it happens, stick his arm out, and have NCer materialize with Pete's arm inside him. Horribly painful to both, but only fatal to NCer. or just wait until he materializes and punch him with his superior reflexes before NCer can react. He has options.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He not oodles faster then NC. NC also posses superhuman speed and agility and reflexes. He also had no trouble keep up with spiderman when they fought twice both times he did so with out the aid of his teleportion. Being able to senses something and doing something about it are not the same. It be far harder for spiderman to do that then your making it sound. NC also posses enhanced durability and a healing factor of his own, to assume one punch from spidy would take him out is a stretch to say the least.
Stuff like this:
Originally posted by Creshosk
Wouldn't need to punch, just shoot the webbing there so NC materializes with the webbing inside him, not painful for spidey, but potentially lethal for crawler.
...works well. Because it's Marvel, they can't have characters die, and SM also isn't a killer. But given their power sets, tactics like this for SM are not only feasible but easy for him to accomplish. We debate on KMC, not in a comic book. As such, SM wins nearly every time. Because yes, a lot of what you said about NCer is true. But none of it negates this tactic. Because really, how does he dodge a potentially lethal attack that is in place before he materializes?
srug
Originally posted by DigiHe wouldn't even have to aim for a trick that dirty, just slightly less dirty. Nightcrawler teleports into a waiting webshot. then right after nightcrawler appears, spidey pulls the web shut and starts spinning NC. Meaning that nightcrawler would be disoriented and in order to escape would have to teleport blind. Spider man gets it spining both fast enough to keep nightcrawler disoriented and long enough for nightcrawler to pass out from the g force being exhibited/ breathing/blood flow difficulties.
Stuff like this:...works well. Because it's Marvel, they can't have characters die, and SM also isn't a killer. But given their power sets, tactics like this for SM are not only feasible but easy for him to accomplish. We debate on KMC, not in a comic book. As such, SM wins nearly every time. Because yes, a lot of what you said about NCer is true. But none of it negates this tactic. Because really, how does he dodge a potentially lethal attack that is in place before he materializes?
srug
Not lethal for crawler, but definitly a win for spidey. Unless NC teleports blind to get out of it, he wouldn't be able to really do anything.