Originally posted by Bardock42
It is better yes......that could be called a wise decision...although looking right and left isn't really a "wise" decision...not to is just so stupid that it makes doing it seem wise....But ok your point is...ok....very subjective but at least something...
as your rebuttal is completely subjective. a wise decision doesnt have to be the culmination of years and years of knowledge and good sense concentrated into one decision which effects your entire life or the entire world population. it can be as simple as knowing the danger of not looking both ways.
think about it. a kid is about to cross the street and quickly remembers their parents telling them the dangers of not looking both ways (knowledge) or maybe hears stories of people getting run down and killed (knowledge), and maybe just sees cars flying by and realises the danger of being hit by one (common sense). based on their knowledge and common sense, they make the decision to look both ways.
the problem - survive crossing the road.
knowledge -parent's teachings, articles on people getting killed etc.
common sense - "hmmm these cars are going fast, and this can happen to me as well"
the decision - look both ways
on a very small scale, thats wisdom.
just because its common sense to most of us, doesnt change the fact.
Originally posted by Scoobless
wisdom isn't grown, age has very little to do with it... some 60 years olds are thick as sh!t
Wisdom has a number of meanings as 3, 4 and 5 are out for most of us, and 6 is dependant on religion I think we are talking 1 and 2 which have nothing to do with intelligence Scoob. They increase with age "usually".
1) The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight.
2) Common sense; good judgment: “It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things” (Henry David Thoreau).
3) The sum of learning through the ages; knowledge: “In those homely sayings was couched the collective wisdom of generations” (Maya Angelou).
4) Wise teachings of the ancient sages.
5) A wise outlook, plan, or course of action.
6) Wisdom Bible. Wisdom of Solomon.
-Whirly out
Originally posted by PVS
as your rebuttal is completely subjective. a wise decision doesnt have to be the culmination of years and years of knowledge and good sense concentrated into one decision which effects your entire life or the entire world population. it can be as simple as knowing the danger of not looking both ways.think about it. a kid is about to cross the street and quickly remembers their parents telling them the dangers of not looking both ways (knowledge) or maybe hears stories of people getting run down and killed (knowledge), or maybe just sees cars flying by and realises the danger of being hit by one (common sense). based on their knowledge and common sense, they make the decision to look both ways.
the problem - survive crossing the road.
knowledge -parent's teachings, articles on people getting killed etc.
common sense - "hmmm these cars are going fast, and this can happen to me as well"
the decision - look both wayson a very small scale, thats wisdom.
Good point, but what do you think about wisdom that comes from instinct, not from knowledge?
Ok....so a mxture of Common Sense and Knowledge is called wisdom.....the problem with that is that all decisions are based on knowledge (maybe wrong knowledge.....but still...) and that what you call common sense is just reasoning then nothing more.....what if the kids Parents told them that it is stupid to look left and right....and heard stories that people got robbed because of looking left and right (bullshit but still) it could change its decision but it would still be based on the kids knowledge the common sense part might work against it but in your definition wisdom can only come from knowledge....and this knowledge has to be "right" too....
Originally posted by Bardock42
Ok....so a mxture of Common Sense and Knowledge is called wisdom.....the problem with that is that all decisions are based on knowledge (maybe wrong knowledge.....but still...) and that what you call common sense is just reasoning then nothing more.....what if the kids Parents told them that it is stupid to look left and right....and heard stories that people got robbed because of looking left and right (bullshit but still) it could change its decision but it would still be based on the kids knowledge the common sense part might work against it but in your definition wisdom can only come from knowledge....and this knowledge has to be "right" too....
Wisdom is not just knowledge, it's seeing the big picture.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Ok....so a mxture of Common Sense and Knowledge is called wisdom.....the problem with that is that all decisions are based on knowledge (maybe wrong knowledge.....but still...) and that what you call common sense is just reasoning then nothing more.....what if the kids Parents told them that it is stupid to look left and right....and heard stories that people got robbed because of looking left and right (bullshit but still) it could change its decision but it would still be based on the kids knowledge the common sense part might work against it but in your definition wisdom can only come from knowledge....and this knowledge has to be "right" too....
All your decisions are based on knowledge and all my decisions are based on knowledge. I take issue with the statement "all" decisions are based on knowledge. As far as stupid decisions not based on knowledge this is not age dependent but becomes less as life experience increases. Decisions can also be made on wrong knowledge, or not reading a situation correctly, again this is likely to improve with age for most.
-Whirly
Originally posted by Deano
''The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing''
Yes yes...we all know socrates....
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you don't have it, you will not know what it is. There is always a "big picture".....
Not necessarily...there is no proof.....and there are very many ideas for "big pictures" which isthe right one...or doesn* it matter...is just acting according to one of this "big pictures" wise?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Good point, but what do you think about wisdom that comes from instinct, not from knowledge?
im not sure what you mean. i think whether or not we know it, instinct is a product of conditioning. back to the example of crossing the street. i dont go through a thought process to look both ways. im sure you dont. we just do it. but the reason is that we are conditioned to do it. when i was like 5 there probably was a thought process involved but it then became instinct through repetition.