Does being older mean you're wiser?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Ok....so a mxture of Common Sense and Knowledge is called wisdom.....the problem with that is that all decisions are based on knowledge (maybe wrong knowledge.....but still...) and that what you call common sense is just reasoning then nothing more.....what if the kids Parents told them that it is stupid to look left and right....and heard stories that people got robbed because of looking left and right (bullshit but still) it could change its decision but it would still be based on the kids knowledge the common sense part might work against it but in your definition wisdom can only come from knowledge....and this knowledge has to be "right" too....

wisdom is knowledge and sense. not sometimes one and sometimes the other.

if someone is tainted with misinformation and they do not have the sense to ponder it, research, or simply observe the 2000 lb cars flying by at 60+ m.p.h. and know what could happen, then that is having knowledge(bad at that) but completely lacking sense.

Originally posted by Deano
please carry on 🙂
enjoy yourself

Bet you say that to everyone 😱

Sorry I'm not that kind of guy 😄

Originally posted by PVS
im not sure what you mean. i think whether or not we know it, instinct is a product of conditioning. back to the example of crossing the street. i dont go through a thought process to look both ways. im sure you dont. we just do it. but the reason is that we are conditioned to do it. when i was like 5 there probably was a thought process involved but it then became instinct through repetition.

I think there are two types of wisdom, first is the type we are debating, second is the type we are born with. Example; a gazelle is born in the wild and has only minuets to get onto it's feet. This is not based on knowledge it instinct. Sometimes to see the big picture you have to trust you gut (instinct).

most people on this planet have hardly any knowledge at all..they would like to think they do though

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Bet you say that to everyone 😱

Sorry I'm not that kind of guy 😄

woudnt put it past ya 🤣

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think there are two types of wisdom, first is the type we are debating, second is the type we are born with. Example; a gazelle is born in the wild and has only minuets to get onto it's feet. This is not based on knowledge it instinct. Sometimes to see the big picture you have to trust you gut (instinct).

Instinct 🙁

oh dear is this eastern philosophy time

I must admit its clever how that Dali Llama talks and all, most Llamas I've seen just eat grass and spit

well, you refer to a primal instinct based on survival.
you cant say that eating is a product of wisdom, can you?
never in your life have you had to decide whether or not you require food.
you never had to think "well, if i dont eat, i might just die, so maybe i should give eating a try....see how it pans out". you just instinctively do it from birth.

Originally posted by Deano
woudnt put it past ya 🤣

😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think there are two types of wisdom, first is the type we are debating, second is the type we are born with. Example; a gazelle is born in the wild and has only minuets to get onto it's feet. This is not based on knowledge it instinct. Sometimes to see the big picture you have to trust you gut (instinct).

But that's Instinct...not Wisdom

Originally posted by Bardock42
But that's Instinct...not Wisdom

-Whirly

Originally posted by PVS
well, you refer to a primal instinct based on survival.
you cant say that eating is a product of wisdom, can you?
never in your life have you had to decide whether or not you require food.
you never had to think "well, if i dont eat, i might just die, so maybe i should give eating a try....see how it pans out". you just instinctively do it from birth.

I'm trying to put two things together for you. Wisdom transcends knowledge by adding the instinct with knowledge.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm trying to put two things together for you. Wisdom transcends knowledge by adding the instinct with knowledge.

Please don't put things together for me I agree to a point but I don't think your big picture is Wisdom😄 Not in the West as far as Soloman's judgement etc is concerned. Perhaps it fits with the ancient Sage definition.

-The ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight.
-Common sense; good judgment: “It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things” (Henry David Thoreau).

-The sum of learning through the ages; knowledge: “In those homely sayings was couched the collective wisdom of generations” (Maya Angelou).
-Wise teachings of the ancient sages.
-A wise outlook, plan, or course of action.
-Wisdom Bible. Wisdom of Solomon.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm trying to put two things together for you. Wisdom transcends knowledge by adding the instinct with knowledge.

common sense may be something you are gifted with, rather
than aquire. if thats what you mean then i agree. but that has
nothing to do with instict of survival.

You can not take a class in collage on wisdom. Wisdom is knowledge applied, but how do you apply it, you learn to trust yourself.

But then Confucius, he say;

By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
- Confucius

So I guess he agrees with me😄

Nope no instinct

You can't really define wisdom....you can only recognize it when you see it.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
But then Confucius, he say;

By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.
- Confucius

So I guess he agrees with me😄

Nope no instinct

So that's what this is about, you need to win.

OK, you win. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So that's what this is about, you need to win.

OK, you win. 😆

Yeah...it's always about winning....It's a testosterone thing.....That's why the rooster died....It wouldn't shut up....and kept pecking me... 😂 So....I killed that pecker.....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So that's what this is about, you need to win.

OK, you win. 😆

Nope its not about winning but according to arliss your option shows wisdom😄

Humility is the only true wisdom by which we prepare our minds for all the possible changes of life.
- George Arliss

David Starr Jordan
Wisdom is knowing what to do next, skill is knowing how to do it, and virtue is doing it.