Why I'm better than god....

Started by Chibi Boy32 pages

Originally posted by Evil Dead

chibi boy,

I'm pretty much done with you.......so I'll keep it short.

um.......you must not be paying attention in school. Science does not aim to find those things out.......we learned the explanations long ago. The sky appears to be blue from the Earth's surface because light from our star (the sun) reflects off the gases in our atmosphere. Once you are in the earth's atmosphere, the sky isn't blue.....it's dark. Grass is green because it contains chlorophyl.........the stars shine because they are large fusion reactors, constantly releasing energy.

why do you keep insisting the core of our planet is comprised of magma?......true, that's a great guess.....but we don't know what it's comprised of. Furthermore, do you not know what causes something to cool? Heat from the object is transferred.......absorbed by the air around it. This is why a camp fire keeps you warm. How much air do you believe exists in our highly pressurized core that you yourself proclaim to be made of magma? If there's no air to absorb the heat, it never cools. Furthermore, pressure creates friction. Friction creates heat. The core of the earth has the pressure of the entire planet baring down on it.........creating more that just a little bit of pressure.....causing more than just a little bit of friction......resulting in more than just a little bit of heat.

that's one of your posts from another thread. Exactly what do you mean the moon blocks the sun? Our moon serves no purpose......it's just a big rock that was passing by, got too close and trapped in orbit by the Earth's gravitational pull. Exactly what do you think the moon does in relation to "blocking the sun".

ps......you keep saying the words "by chance". There's no such thing. Everything in this universe happens precisely as a result of other variables acting upon it. Grass is not green "by chance"........grass is green because it contains chlorophyl. What goes up must come down does not happen by "chance". It happens because it is affected by Earth's strong gravitational pull.......pulling it back to the surface. The Earth doesn't have a strong gravitational pull "by chance".........the Earth has a stron gravitational pull because it's mass is so great that it bends space around it.

"um.......you must not be paying attention in school. Science does not aim to find those things out.......we learned the explanations long ago. The sky appears to be blue from the Earth's surface because light from our star (the sun) reflects off the gases in our atmosphere. Once you are in the earth's atmosphere, the sky isn't blue.....it's dark. Grass is green because it contains chlorophyl.........the stars shine because they are large fusion reactors, constantly releasing energy."
It's in school, in science lessons where you learn these things, they didn't know why the sky was blue 2000 years ago. Science is there to find the answers to our questions, suddenly meaning there is a reason why the sky is blue, and there is a reason for the existance of gravity etc. Why would there be no reason to the universe if there is a reason to everything else in it?

"why do you keep insisting the core of our planet is comprised of magma?......true, that's a great guess.....but we don't know what it's comprised of. Furthermore, do you not know what causes something to cool? Heat from the object is transferred.......absorbed by the air around it. This is why a camp fire keeps you warm. How much air do you believe exists in our highly pressurized core that you yourself proclaim to be made of magma? If there's no air to absorb the heat, it never cools. Furthermore, pressure creates friction. Friction creates heat. The core of the earth has the pressure of the entire planet baring down on it.........creating more that just a little bit of pressure.....causing more than just a little bit of friction......resulting in more than just a little bit of heat."
Well, we never know what the earth is made of, it's just my opinion. 🙂

"that's one of your posts from another thread. Exactly what do you mean the moon blocks the sun? Our moon serves no purpose......it's just a big rock that was passing by, got too close and trapped in orbit by the Earth's gravitational pull. Exactly what do you think the moon does in relation to "blocking the sun"."
Maybe it is there for a reason, it cannot be there by luck because there must be a scientific explanation.

"ps......you keep saying the words "by chance". There's no such thing. Everything in this universe happens precisely as a result of other variables acting upon it. Grass is not green "by chance"........grass is green because it contains chlorophyl. What goes up must come down does not happen by "chance". It happens because it is affected by Earth's strong gravitational pull.......pulling it back to the surface. The Earth doesn't have a strong gravitational pull "by chance".........the Earth has a stron gravitational pull because it's mass is so great that it bends space around it."
Exactly, there is a reason for everything, yet according to the Bible that didn't happen but whatever.

Originally posted by Chibi Boy
It's in school, in science lessons where you learn these things, they didn't know why the sky was blue 2000 years ago. Science is there to find the answers to our questions, suddenly meaning there is a reason why the sky is blue, and there is a reason for the existance of gravity etc. Why would there be no reason to the universe if there is a reason to everything else in it?
Maybe it is there for a reason, it cannot be there by luck because there must be a scientific explanation.
Exactly, there is a reason for everything, yet according to the Bible that didn't happen but whatever.

It appears your lack of knowledge is not simply constrained to the sciences but also extends to a misinterpretation of the English language.
(Which is (partially) understandable if English isn't your first language. Is it? (It isn't mine).)

Anyway, you vary the denotation and connotation of the word "reason" with each sentence, making your statements invalid and/or incoherent. The word has multiple meanings. Scientific explanations of the variables that produce natural phenomena, do not imply any underlying deliberate intentions driving such occurrences.
1) There is a scientific explanation for why the sky is blue. There is a reason for the sky's colour in this sense of the word.
2) There is no deliberate intention driving the sky to be blue. There is no reason for the sky's colour in this sense of the word.
The meaning of "reason" in (1) does not imply the meaning of "reason" in (2).

Evolution states that a bird can turn into a fish, doesn't that sound weird?
more like that species gradually can transform/adapt to suitable features to cope with the environment.
Just like biotic organism getting resistance to antibiotic drugs . Why cause they adapt meaning they evolve into survival modus to cope with the change in their environmental habitancs

Maybe it is there for a reason, it cannot be there by luck because there must be a scientific explanation.
its there cause the debris from a cosmic collision between earth and "rock", a huge one, floated into space and came together to form the moon. The moon is in orbit which is a combination of gravity, inertia, centrifugal forces which again makes both part influence each other. Moon affects/innfluence earth through the high and low tides.

Did all this happen for a reason???? No it happened by chance the rock could have missed earth but it didnt and here we are now stuck with the moon that got its birth due to this collision

(Which is (partially) understandable if English isn't your first language. Is it? (It isn't mine).)
whats your first language?.....mine is Norwegian

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Evolution states that a bird can turn into a fish, doesn't that sound weird?

that sound really weird, because it's not true.......Why do you even discuss this topic which you've just demonstrated you know nothing about. Single celled organisms evolved into multi-celled organisms. Multi-celled organisms evolved into complex multi-celled organisms. Sea creatures were the first complex multi-celled organism.....over time, they developed traits that allowed them to leave the ocean (like lungs), creating a new species. These new species of Amphibians (living in water and on land) over time devoleped traits that made it possible to live on only land, creating reptiles. As time passed, these reptiles evolved traits to create new species of reptiles. First came one trait....like wings (membranes connecting their appendages)......then another like beaks to easier hunt prey while flying.......then another like feathers instead of scales to aid in their flight..........creating birds. Your entire understanding of this subject is ass backward. Evolution does not happen in reverse..........complex organisms like birds do not revert backward to less complex organisms like fish.

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It's in school, in science lessons where you learn these things, they didn't know why the sky was blue 2000 years ago. Science is there to find the answers to our questions, suddenly meaning there is a reason why the sky is blue, and there is a reason for the existance of gravity etc. Why would there be no reason to the universe if there is a reason to everything else in it?

no......that is not called reason, it is called cause. Ever heard of cause and affect. A cause happens, producing the affect. Grass contains chlorphyl (cause) resulting in it being green (affect). A massive object bends space (cause) resulting in a ripple of space around it, gravity (affect)......etc. etc. etc.

Reason is a justification from an intelligent mind. I did ____ because I wanted _____ to happen.

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Exactly, there is a reason for everything, yet according to the Bible that didn't happen but whatever.

no, there is a cause for everything. The wind blowing your trash can over does not happen because some one or thing wanted it to, an intellgent decision (reason)...........it happens because the wind was blowing (cause)..... your trash can was not massive enough to produce an equal force or greater to resist the wind.......so it fell over (affect).

Originally posted by finti
whats your first language?.....mine is Norwegian

Cantonese, born in Malaysia, live in New Zealand.
How's Norway? 😄

Anyway I'd say the definition of reason he's using in the second sense is a valid definition. "Reason (n)" can sometimes be used in a synonymous fashion to "causation (n)". "Reason (n)" can also be used in a synonymous fashion to "motivation (n)". However he keeps interchanging between the meanings, between and within sentences making them flawed. At one point I recall him interchanging between "reason (n)" and "to reason (v)".

A phenomenon having a causation is not the same as it having been a product of deliberate intent. The wind does not have motivation.

How's Norway?
freaking cold and windy at the moment

I have yet to see Chibi Boy post about "reason" without it being used to show motivation............motivation by his god..........

he needs a reason first

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I have yet to see Chibi Boy post about "reason" without it being used to show motivation............motivation by his god..........

Actually I think you're correct. I don't recall him using the word in the causation sense in reference to anything he's posted himself, which would imply he realises there are multiple meanings. However he refers to the reasons (causations) that others post. I just assumed he realised for a moment, I guess I'm overestimating.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
First, you cited proof that God esxists, then you stated that there is no proof that God exists. That is changing your poision. So which is it, is there proof or no proof?

Is there a way to prove to you god exists, no.

Does god exist, yes, so that is a proof on its own, that someone needs to find...you

However he refers to the reasons (causations) that others post. I just assumed he realised for a moment, I guess I'm overestimating.

based on the claims he's made in his posts........I believe you were over estimating aswell.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Is there a way to prove to you god exists, no.

Does god exist, yes, so that is a proof on its own, that someone needs to find...[B]you [/B]

I believe there is something.....It does interact....people interact with it all the time...all over the world....It's not even a faith thing.......It's more of quantum thing...But most people aren't aware of it....and then blame it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I believe there is something.....It does interact....people interact with it all the time...all over the world....It's not even a faith thing.......It's more of quantum thing...But most people aren't aware of it....and then blame it.

What is it with you and quantum theory, debbiejo? 😄

I believe she's referring to the "spooky effect"...............google it.

There is evidence that there is an as of yet unknown faster than light connection between matter...................it's an instantaniou information exchange...........

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I believe she's referring to the "spooky effect"...............google it.

There is evidence that there is an as of yet unknown faster than light connection between matter...................it's an instantaniou information exchange...........

I googled "spooky effect" then clicked pictures and got this:

Sleeping fat chess kid... now that's some spooky sh*t. 😂

Seriously though, sounds interesting. 😄

That is spooky.....

http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/kenny/papers/bell.html

here's a bit of reading on the subject..............

sorry it's not a better page, I'm too lazy to look..........I just grabbed that one from a post I had made in the philosophy forum.

you can also google "spooky effect quantum."