Why I'm better than god....

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
np, I just want people to see my perspective, no need to force faith,lol.

Yea, I want people to do what they think is right. I see so many people give away their right to think for them selves.

You know, this thread is really goofy, but people are attracted to it like flies to sh*t. I think Evil Dead was genius in making it. Really, what does it matter to any one if Evil Dead thinks he's better than god or not. People post here and get all bent out of shape. Then I get on and they get even more bent out of shape. I'm just sitting here laughing, wish you could laugh with me.

Why do people think they need to defend God against Evil Dead's ideas? Why do people get so mad? The reason is simple, Christianity teaches that you (the Christian) are better then everyone else. This is reinforced when non-Christians object to this arrogance, Christians think they are being persecuted. Christians are like bees, if you attack the hive (god) they swarm and strike to kill. Like bees they are controlled and do not see it.

But do not get upset, these are just words and can not hurt you. 😄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yea, I want people to do what they think is right. I see so many people give away their right to think for them selves.

You know, this thread is really goofy, but people are attracted to it like flies to sh*t. I think Evil Dead was genius in making it. Really, what does it matter to any one if Evil Dead thinks he's better than god or not. People post here and get all bent out of shape. Then I get on and they get even more bent out of shape. I'm just sitting here laughing, wish you could laugh with me.

Why do people think they need to defend God against Evil Dead's ideas? Why do people get so mad? The reason is simple, Christianity teaches that you (the Christian) are better then everyone else. This is reinforced when non-Christians object to this arrogance, Christians think they are being persecuted. Christians are like bees, if you attack the hive (god) they swarm and strike to kill. Like bees they are controlled and do not see it.

But do not get upset, these are just words and can not hurt you. 😄

He was a genius in making it, he's not saying "I'm better than god", he knew the reaction he was getting.

Based on arrogance, that isn't the right christianity there. People slip and fall all of the time, but that doesn't make them seem better, those are the wrong ideas as a christian.

To help,not judge.

Thats why I wasn't here to force my opinion, but more of say some things.

Now, on that subject, think of why its okay for people to ridicule christianity, but other relgions are supposed to be "accepted". its because christianity is the larger religion, so they don't get the "rights" benefit as much.

No different than black people getting to wear "white" attire, but white people get in trouble for wearing "afros: and such, it happened at my school. I am black myself, but you must realize the reason christianity is SO scrutinized is because of how prolific it is.

I am not a judger myself, I like different ideas, and concepts. Who is to say my opinion is better than yours? Whats fact? I say you are offered to make a choice, and if the person is willing to listen, then I commence.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A choice made by coercion is not free; "You can slit your throat, or you can slit your wrists, what is your choice?"

You ALWAYS have a choice, I have a choice in answering this..

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[BHow is this proof that God exists? [/B]

My point exactly, there is no 'physical" proof, I could type here all day, and you wont "see the light", I can offer you my opinion though.

I meditate, and I'm not all holy, but I do believe that there is someone who is watching over me,and won't put me through more than I can take.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You ALWAYS have a choice, I have a choice in answering this..
My point exactly, there is no 'physical" proof, I could type here all day, and you wont "see the light", I can offer you my opinion though.

I meditate, and I'm not all holy, but I do believe that there is someone who is watching over me,and won't put me through more than I can take.

Thank you.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell

I am not a judger myself, I like different ideas, and concepts. Who is to say my opinion is better than yours? Whats fact? I say you are offered to make a choice, and if the person is willing to listen, then I commence.

I like different ideas too...and concepts....thinking for yourself is a big plus...It's just most people won't do that and follow blindly without thinking...

You'll find these threads interesting then.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Thank you.

I hope I made a point, and wasn't trying to sound arrogant.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I like different ideas too...and concepts....thinking for yourself is a big plus...It's just most people won't do that and follow blindly without thinking...

You'll find these threads interesting then.

The thing is that people usually use "faith" and fight them with "facts".

What is a fact?

You can prove a fact, as a matter of fact......also quantum physics can proof many supernatural events...

Originally posted by debbiejo
You can prove a fact, as a matter of fact......also quantum physics can proof many supernatural events...

Some things aren't discovered because we haven't the mindpower, or they are too far to attain, some are usually undiscovered, because we don't have the technology to discover them yet..

What is technology though?

Technology doesn't need to be mechanical in my opinion, but it helps if you can reproduce the effect your desiring to show.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You ALWAYS have a choice, I have a choice in answering this..

I did not state that one does not have choice. I stated that a choice made by coercion is not free.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
My point exactly, there is no 'physical" proof, I could type here all day, and you wont "see the light", I can offer you my opinion though.

I meditate, and I'm not all holy, but I do believe that there is someone who is watching over me,and won't put me through more than I can take.

You did not answer the question.

2. You haven't "created" life, you have reproduced, you never created anything. created>reproduce.
3.God never did this, he never FORCED you to do anything, by you doing what is asked, than you earn paradise, by doing right, you CHOSE him, and that way he didn't "force" you. A contradiction.
4. As you should, the fact that you typed this message to me, says that loud and clear.
5. What is "good" and what is "bad", because in worldly terms, good and bad represent what helps or benefits more people over another in the end, one grows weak, while another grows stronger, thats a difference.
6. God never commanded ANYTHING from you, you have a choice, even HE doesn't override that.

First let me say, you are the first Christian in this thread to intelligently post in this thread..............you have freely admitted that your religion is nothing more than faith, which by definition can never be proven.....it exists in the minds of it's followers. You did not come in here claiming that everything of your religion is fact......or disputing known information about our universe that directly contradicts the stories of your religion. Kudos for that.

That said....

1. My chromosomes combined with my wife's chromosomes to create an entirely new being, genetically different from anything on this planet that has ever existed. There are other types of reproduction.....asexual, cloning, mitosis, etc. that do not create new life.......only sexual reproduction creates something entirely new. I did that.

2. You say god never commanded anything from anyone. What were those 10 things he handed down to Moses called again? As a matter of fact, if you refuse to do as god commands you are punished.........for disobeying his commandments. Not one of the ten commandments were phrased as a question.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I did not state that one does not have choice. I stated that a choice made by coercion is not free.

You did not answer the question.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
First let me say, you are the first Christian in this thread to intelligently post in this thread..............you have freely admitted that your religion is nothing more than faith, which by definition can never be proven.....it exists in the minds of it's followers. You did not come in here claiming that everything of your religion is fact......or disputing known information about our universe that directly contradicts the stories of your religion. Kudos for that.

I think there are many sayings, and teaching that are perverted, in what I go by, I have trust, and I try to treat people like I want to be treated, would I want someone to force upon to me that everything that I believe is utterly and stupidly wrong?

I chose to follow god, I wasn't forced to.

Thanks though, I think this thread is a work of genius.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
That said....

1. My chromosomes combined with my wife's chromosomes to create an entirely new being, genetically different from anything on this planet that has ever existed. There are other types of reproduction.....asexual, cloning, mitosis, etc. that do not create new life.......only sexual reproduction creates something entirely new. I did that.

Now now, how is it entirely new?

How is your child entirely new?

Originally posted by Evil Dead
2. You say god never commanded anything from anyone. What were those 10 things he handed down to Moses called again? As a matter of fact, if you refuse to do as god commands you are punished.........for disobeying his commandments. Not one of the ten commandments were phrased as a question.

This is what I go by...

If he is hungry, feed him.

If he is cold, warm him up etc. etc.

If I treat people like I want to be treated, which is what god ultimately wants, than I've done the best that I can do.

If I'm wrong, than I shouldn't suffer worse, if another is right, nothing would be better in the end.

Anyway, ethnicity and religion, often go together.

Why is it not ok to "kill", god said so sure.

Lets look at it from a wordly view.

If I kill someone, I not only upset those that loved the person, I also make the area around me, not as safe as a place to live in.

Even in revenge, people openly say that killing someone in revenge is okay, I say think about it.

If someone killed your brother, you would retailitate. Why?

Because you are hurt by it.

You kill the killer, and although the person was "wrong" the family still loves them as well.

What was accomplished?

I didn't want to debate the point or meaning........only that in the Christian bible god does lay commandments upon men, he does give them commands. I didn't say you had to follow them to the tee.

Good point on "thou shalt not kill".......as technically, that's not what the commandment states. That is the modernized, laymen's version.......it actually states, "thou shalt commit no murder". What does one justify as murder? Surely we cannot force our modernized views of morality and legal structure on ancient civilizations. What constituted "murder" at the time? Did revenge constitute murder? After all.......an eye for an eye.............

I myself do not believe today's definition of murder to be true........which is simply to take life. I believe, based partially on the fact that all the Christian dogma is centered around morality, that murder at the time meant "to unjustly take a life".

In this quote, you cite a number of things as proof that God exists:

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
The fact that I learn from my mistakes, and that people appreciate what I do for them, or throw away past troubles shows that god exists.

In this quote, I ask how any of the things you cited in your previous post prove that God exists:

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How is this proof that God exists?

In your reply, you state that there is no proof that God exists:

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
My point exactly, there is no 'physical" proof, I could type here all day, and you wont "see the light", I can offer you my opinion though.

I meditate, and I'm not all holy, but I do believe that there is someone who is watching over me,and won't put me through more than I can take.

So no, you did not answer the question. In fact, you changed your position altogether.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I didn't want to debate the point or meaning........only that in the Christian bible god does lay commandments upon men, he does give them commands. I didn't say you had to follow them to the tee.

Good point on "thou shalt not kill".......as technically, that's not what the commandment states. That is the modernized, laymen's version.......it actually states, "thou shalt commit no murder". What does one justify as murder? Surely we cannot force our modernized views of morality and legal structure on ancient civilizations. What constituted "murder" at the time? Did revenge constitute murder? After all.......an eye for an eye.............

I myself do not believe today's definition of murder to be true........which is simply to take life. I believe, based partially on the fact that all the Christian dogma is centered around morality, that murder at the time meant "to unjustly take a life".

I always saw murder as taking the life "premeditated" or had it in your head, then manslaughter would be instantly.

Not that its a true matter, but if I wonder if I ran over someone on accident, would you see that as murder?

What if they died afterwards? I always saw WHAT someone did as to why they did it.

If a bunch of men took a girl out of her home and cut her up, would you initally see that as bad?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In this quote, you cite a number of things as proof that God exists:

In this quote, I ask how any of the things you cited in your previous post prove that God exists:

In your reply, you state that there is no proof that God exists:

So no, you did not answer the question. In fact, you changed your position altogether.

I haven't actually, I told you, what I believed, its for you to have your own proof, something to happen to you.

Do you know what a testimony is?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I haven't actually, I told you, what I believed, its for you to have your own proof, something to happen to you.

Do you know what a testimony is?

First, you cited proof that God esxists, then you stated that there is no proof that God exists. That is changing your poision. So which is it, is there proof or no proof?

Originally posted by Bardock42
No it doesn'T...it actually explains how different kinds of animals evolve....and its not Bullshitting by saying "Yeah someone made them all" ...very improbable....

But why does he have to change in the first oplace?...isn't he allknowing, allpowerful all perfect?....how can a perfect being need to change.....

No, Science ios aboot the Reasons why things happen as they are on the base of the laws of physics..........

Evolution states that a bird can turn into a fish, doesn't that sound weird?