Why I'm better than god....

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Proving my point yet again are you? Noone can imagine every taste.

I told you it doesn't work that way.

Ah, trying to resort to insults, the sign of a defeated man.

Ah proving my point, it can be....

Originally posted by Council#13
he PURPOSELY creates a stone he cannot lift. that means he is powerful enough to defeat himself. therefore he must be all powerful to be able to defeat one all powerful

Yeah, but the thing is he is not allpowerful, he is jsut powerful...

all powerful enough to defeat the all powerful making him/her even more than all powerful. however, if he cannot lift a rock so heavy even the Omega can not lift it, then that makes him even more powerful....

Originally posted by Council#13
all powerful enough to defeat the all powerful making him/her even more than all powerful. however, if he cannot lift a rock so heavy even the Omega can not lift it, then that makes him even more powerful....

You're stubbornly missing the entire point. He can't lift the rock, therefore there is something he can't do, therefore he is not all-powerful.

Originally posted by Council#13
all powerful enough to defeat the all powerful making him/her even more than all powerful. however, if he cannot lift a rock so heavy even the Omega can not lift it, then that makes him even more powerful....

You need help.

Let's break this argument down to the most basic level so you can wrap your mind around it:

1- God is omnipotent according to this argument.

2- God makes a rock so heavy he can't lift it.

3- But at the same time, he would not be omnipotent if he couldn't lift it, therefore he must be able to lift it.

4- However, if he can lift it, than it's not so heavy that he can't, therefore, he's not omnipotent.

5- Therefore, if God were to demonstrate one power that is absolute and turn around and try and overcome that power, he cannot without rendering the first power not absolute. That is, if he makes a rock so heavy he can't lift it and then lifts it, the nature of the rock really is that he can lift it, which means he failed in making a rock too heavy for him to lift. However, if he made the rock and he couldn't lift it, then he'd fail at being able to lift the rock anyways. He'd fail at being able to do ANYTHING. Hence, God cannot be omnipotent.

ummmm thanks for the help. but if god is supposedly all poweful than he can do anything right? but if he can create a rock so heavy even he cannot lift it, he cannot be omni potent. BUT because he IS omni potent, he must be omni potent to create something so heavy even someone who is omni potent can not lift.

But in the same vein, he should be able to lift it or he's not omnipotent.

Originally posted by Council#13
ummmm thanks for the help. but if god is supposedly all poweful than he can do anything right? but if he can create a rock so heavy even he cannot lift it, he cannot be omni potent. BUT because he IS omni potent, he must be omni potent to create something so heavy even someone who is omni potent can not lift.

He is supposed to be omnipotnt, buit he isn't that is the thing, he is NOT omnipotent.

omnipotent......whatever........I'm still better.

Originally posted by Bardock42
He is supposed to be omnipotnt, buit he isn't that is the thing, he is NOT omnipotent.

He's omnibenevolent...................he loves you Bardock42, seriously he does.

But he's out to get you, Sol. He told me so. Honest.

Originally posted by Soleran
He's omnibenevolent...................he loves you Bardock42, seriously he does.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
omnipotent......whatever........I'm still better.

I mean, sure they are cheering for you, but they are dumb-asses....

I mean, sure they are cheering for you, but they are dumb-asses....

Can you prove that?.........Or are we talking subjective..or maybe it's a receptive inadequacy.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Can you prove that?.........Or are we talking subjective..or maybe it's a receptive inadequacy.

I claimed quite a few things in my last statement, so...can I prove what?

Except for that, this is my opinion, just to be clear on that.

OK Ed. Let's try this again (although you're completely wrong about the legal system, it involves opinion yes, but also fact - as in findings of fact)

The Scientific Method

1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena.

- Certain people claim to have seen God, angels, divine phenomena, etc.

2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena.

- Hypothesis: God exists

3. Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations.

- If God exists there should be miracles, answered prayers, etc.

4. Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments.

- Pray, see if God answers. Follow the commandments in the scriptures see if your life doesn't improve - perhaps even miraculously. Remember to watch the variables, ie faith, hope, charity and their opposites.

So, we have a hypothesis based on observations. We have repeatable tests. I have proof (I've seen the results of said experiment). Now go find your own.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I claimed quite a few things in my last statement, so...can I prove what?

Originally posted by debbiejo
You know....The dumb ass part..... 🙄

Oh, well I don't want to get more specific....it's my opinion of some people on here, I don't want say names or anything, debbie....I mean some people might take it wrong, debbie. Don't you think, debbie?

But can I prove it, I suppose I could pull find some of the more stupid posts of the posters, debbie. It doesn't really prove it but it could create a very realistic image...

😂 😂 😂 God loves you..........I do have a cool name.....I love how you like repeating it..........

Originally posted by debbiejo
😂 😂 😂 God loves you..........I do have a cool name.....I love how you like repeating it..........

Prove it.....it's alright.....no problem....

Well I can't prove that god love you.........especially you.......hahahaha....It's just a creative force that can be accessed. It has no favoritism.