Why I'm better than god....

Originally posted by Bardock42
What the hell, you claim that it is differen? When you imagine something you have the same sensation as if you feel something, it all happens in your Brain, it'S nothing special. YOu might prefer the cheeseburger for other reasons. But if you imagine the taste (really imagine it, not half way...the REAL taste) it is no difference.

So there is no difference? Except for some action that might happen later on? I see....

No, if you imagine the taste, you'll get hungry and your mouth will water, and you'll just want to eat the actual cheeseburger.

If what you are saying is true, than there wouldn't be a need for any food other than tofu and lettuce, we could just imagine every other flavor in existence.

It doesn't really work that way.

and that last bit "so there is no difference? except" and you should have stopped there. Because with an exception, that means there is at least one difference.

Originally posted by Mindship
From a penis' POV, what difference [B]in effect is there between a sexy treat, and you imagining a sexy treat?

That's the difference in stimulus. [/B]

Nope. Yea, a penis becomes erect with imagination or physical contact, but without some sort of physical contact, the end result won't be an orgasm.

c'mon now.......you claimed proof.........tell me about it, I'll get in touch with the news media and we'll spread it around the world. Don't make claims then just stop posting.......posting in other threads 20 minutes later in the same forum. If you've got proof......seriously, I'm all for it........knowledge is great and must be shared.

ps. what the f' are you posting about arachnid?........did you have another window open or something........?

stick around though.......there's a dude who has proof of god, direct evidence to his existence.......he's coming back to share with us all.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
Christians and Muslims all worship the same god as the Jews......so yes, 4,000 years.

Yes, but the accounts of visitations, etc. are considerably more recent than 4000 years. So there is more recent evidence than Moses for example.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
what proof? Where is this proof housed? What tests have been done on it? Is it recorded data or tangible? Why am I just now hearing about it? Looks like it would be on the cover of every magazine and run on CNN 24 hours a day.

I never said proof. What I said is evidence. Eye-witness testimony is considered evidence. What people have to then decide is how reliable the witnesses are.

PS Several magazines have done stories about it. An CNN does do religious stories from time to time.

Eye witness testimony is considered the WORST evidence, especially when the recording party has a bias or possible agenda and interpreting that account.

nah, the worst evidence would be rumor. That would still be evidence but without anything or anyone to hang it on.

But regardless of whether it's good or bad evidence, evidence it is.

Oh, and in regards to the bias/agenda thing. While I agree that they were after something, I doubt it was for themselves as many of the original "witnesses" died because of their testimony.

I never said proof. What I said is evidence. Eye-witness testimony is considered evidence. What people have to then decide is how reliable the witnesses are.

that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Evidence is either physical matter or recorded data that can be researched or tested. If the research and testing proves it to be true.....it is labeled fact, or proof.

are you just making this crap up? Eye witness testimony is proof? Where do you get this stuff? What tests can be done on eye witness testimony? By your completely un-informed/completely bullshit/completely wrong definition and understanding of science (the study of our very universe)......any clinically diagnosed schitzophrenic man who gives eye witness testimony of invisible people talking to him is evidence that invisible people really do exist and talk to us but nobody else can hear them.

get out of here with your tripe. come back after you take a 4th grade science class.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
that's the dumbest thing I've read all day. Evidence is either physical matter or recorded data that can be researched or tested. If the research and testing proves it to be true.....it is labeled fact, or proof.

are you just making this crap up? Eye witness testimony is proof? Where do you get this stuff? What tests can be done on eye witness testimony? By your completely un-informed/completely bullsh[b]it/completely wrong definition and understanding of science (the study of our very universe)......any clinically diagnosed schitzophrenic man who gives eye witness testimony of invisible people talking to him is evidence that invisible people really do exist and talk to us but nobody else can hear them.

get out of here with your tripe. come back after you take a 4th grade science class. [/B]

Look who's talking. Did I say anything about scientific proof? I was actually referring to legal. (Oh, and by the way, there are these things called case studies. What "tests" can you run on them? repeatable? I think not.)

As for your schizo friend. I already made the disclaimer that you have to weigh the reliability of the witness. A person with a known mental disorder would of course have some credibility issues.

So, learn some manners and accept that some people have different points of view than you, Some people might even be able to teach you something.

"Is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?" -Anonymous

Look who's talking. Did I say anything about scientific proof? I was actually referring to legal. (Oh, and by the way, there are these things called case studies. What "tests" can you run on them? repeatable? I think not.)

1. there is no other kind of proof than scientific proof. Proof means something has been proven fact. There is no other way known to humans at this time to attain facts other than the scientific method.

2. Legal? this has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. Legal systems deal with opinions......opinions of a judge or opinions of a jury. An opinion by very definiton is not a fact and only exists in a person's mind. Are you now saying that god is not a fact and exists soly in your mind? It's also noteworthy that opinions have nothing to do with evidence, it's purely an individual's preference. My opinion is that eggs are better than sausage. No evidence, just my personal preference.......that exists soly in my mind......as it appears you are now claiming your god does.

3. what about a case study has anything to do with anything in this thread? case studies are merely the study of documentation in attempt to come to a hypothesis.........what does any of this have to do with anything that has been brought up in the 500+ posts in this thread?

So, learn some manners and accept that some people have different points of view than you, Some people might even be able to teach you something.

I have manners. I was using them quite well.....untill you promised evidence to me of something as earth shattering and life changing as a god, simply to come back in this thread and say, "blah blah blah I don't know what evidence even means blah blah"........you dangled an awefully large carrot in front of my face only to snatch it away. Not only does that deserve me to not use my good manners........it's also quite cruel on your part. You're a cruel, cruel person........you probably walk around kicking quadropalegics too.

many people have taught me things......ofcourse they knew what they were talking about. You must first understand a subject yourself before you can teach it to someone else..........

c'mon now......been 10 minutes, you haven't left...I see your name up there. You're either doing an awefully lot of typing or an awefully lot of thinking to get out of that little corner you painted yourself in to.

well......it's been 15 minutes now. I need to get to bed.......take all the time you need.......I'll read your response and retort tomorrow.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
No, if you imagine the taste, you'll get hungry and your mouth will water, and you'll just want to eat the actual cheeseburger.

If what you are saying is true, than there wouldn't be a need for any food other than tofu and lettuce, we could just imagine every other flavor in existence.

It doesn't really work that way.

and that last bit "so there is no difference? except" and you should have stopped there. Because with an exception, that means there is at least one difference.

Nope. Yea, a penis becomes erect with imagination or physical contact, but without some sort of physical contact, the end result won't be an orgasm.

Damn, I don't even know enough insults to respond to you, but I will try anyways.

Yes, we don't need more than tofu and lettuce if we could imagine the taste of every food, sadly I can't,...

Alright, let me rephrase, so you understand, there is no difference, except for the shit you make up....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Will the real god please stand up!..........OK, let all stand up.......cause we're all part of the same essence. 😎

Oh, and, prove it...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, and, prove it...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Stop it with your prove it!!!,........Ok, your alive right?....you are energy right?....everything is energy right?..........so we are all part of what ever it is..........proof in the pudding.........as they say....prove that we are not.

You just love those words "prove it" don't you.........I perceive it, I experience it....I cannot make you do the same..........only you can be master of your own domain (said in a Seinfeld voice)"

Originally posted by Evil Dead
Indeed.

this god fellow isn't very grand............seems to be many people infact superior to him in many ways.

Originally posted by debbiejo
You just love those words "prove it" don't you.........I perceive it, I experience it....I cannot make you do the same..........only you can be master of your own domain (said in a Seinfeld voice)"

I see, so you just Bullshit around...sweet.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Damn, I don't even know enough insults to respond to you, but I will try anyways.

Yes, we don't need more than tofu and lettuce if we could imagine the taste of every food, sadly I can't,..

Proving my point yet again are you? Noone can imagine every taste.

I told you it doesn't work that way.

Ah, trying to resort to insults, the sign of a defeated man.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No we aren't you just jump back. He is powerful enough to create the stone, but to be all-powerful he needs to be able to do EVERYTHING. But he cannot lift the stone, so he is NOT all-powerful. Get it?