Shouldn't Hell be better then Heaven?

Originally posted by Chibi Boy
You believe in miracles? Look at me, I was born 20 minutes apart from my cousin on the same day, the same weight and a birth mark in the same place.

But back to the point...

Yes, I believe in miracles....I was told by a voice not to go to a friends house when a plane was going to crash at the Detroit airport...I argued with this voice...because she/my friend Barbie lived right at the point where the plane started to break apart...I would of been on 3 of the roads that lead to her house.... and at that same time period...And that's where the plane was was scattering....so I went home only to find out that a jet crashed at that metro airport with only 1 survivor...a baby girl....How surprised I was when I got home and realized what had happened....

that stupid voice wouldn't leave me alone...it kept telling me to "Just go home"....."Go home"...."No, go home"....go home go home go home...

Originally posted by FeceMan
The way I see it is this: everyone in the day and age of Jesus would have heard of the miracles of their gods. When Jesus performed the exact same miracles, they would have immediately seen the parallels between them and would have thought, "Snap! Who is this guy?!"

Over whom was Jesus showing dominion when he calmed the sea and the storm? Over whom was Jesus showing dominion when he rose from the grave? Over whom was he showing dominion when he healed the sick and brought the dead to life?

Poseidon. Hades. Asclepius. And Satan.

OK....I'm done chewing on it......Sorry feceman... 🙁 ...It just doesn't taste right to me....We'll just have to agree to disagree....There is just too much evidence in the conclusions I've come to.

Originally posted by FeceMan

I have read about the Gehenna thing and found it odd, but I will stand by the whole 'lake of fire' spiel in Revelations.

The one thing about Revelations....is that it's all symbolic.

John might of also been on something when he wrote that book.. 😄

http://skeptically.org/bible/id9.html

THe devil wont reign over hell. He will be amongst the others who rejected Jesus who will suffer great horrors.

God isnt out to boss others around. Sides even if He was, He has the right simply cause He is God.

However, He gave us His rules for our safety and benefit.

Lets take the sin of sex before marriage. Some might think God is a real prick that people have to wait to have sex until after they are married and only have it with their husband or wife. What a jerk! right?

No, His commandments our for our benefit and safety and protection.

We are not to have sex before marriage cause it is a proven fact that people who have sex with multiple partners (or even one partner not tested) are at greater risks of developing STDs and getting pregnant while too young (for girls) and even getting AIDS.

STDs can cause great pain and even infertility and even death.

AIDS is an STD that ultimately leads to death.

Those who wait have a much lesser risk of getting STDs and early pregnancies.

So it is for our protection that God gave us rules.

Take lying for instance. We are told not to lie. That is for protection too. Cause if a person lies just once or even keeps lying, then chances of gaining trust back again gets harder each time the person lies.

Also adultery that is for protection too. From shame, guilt, STDs like AIDS, break ups, heartbreaks, pain, fear, confusion, tears, sorrow, etc.

Like above to make it clearer cause i ran out of room.

God tells us not to commit adultery to spare us from the shame and pain it will cause. Not cause He wants to be mean, but because He wants to protect us.

So His rules are to protect us and also were given to show us we are sinnesr and that there no way we can be good enough to save ourselves.

Only through Jesus and repentance turning from sin are we saved by calling on Jesus Name with all our hearts.

Originally posted by HairyPooper
THe devil wont reign over hell. He will be amongst the others who rejected Jesus who will suffer great horrors.

God isnt out to boss others around. Sides even if He was, He has the right simply cause He is God.

However, He gave us His rules for our safety and benefit.

Lets take the sin of sex before marriage. Some might think God is a real prick that people have to wait to have sex until after they are married and only have it with their husband or wife. What a jerk! right?

No, His commandments our for our benefit and safety and protection.

We are not to have sex before marriage cause it is a proven fact that people who have sex with multiple partners (or even one partner not tested) are at greater risks of developing STDs and getting pregnant while too young (for girls) and even getting AIDS.

STDs can cause great pain and even infertility and even death.

AIDS is an STD that ultimately leads to death.

Those who wait have a much lesser risk of getting STDs and early pregnancies.

So it is for our protection that God gave us rules.

Take lying for instance. We are told not to lie. That is for protection too. Cause if a person lies just once or even keeps lying, then chances of gaining trust back again gets harder each time the person lies.

Also adultery that is for protection too. From shame, guilt, STDs like AIDS, break ups, heartbreaks, pain, fear, confusion, tears, sorrow, etc.

This is hell or heaven, you make the choice.

Originally posted by ryno14141
Sinning is somthing you can't escape but some sins are worse than others. You'll have to do something really bad to (and a lot of it) go to Hell.

Some actors (like O.J. Simpson might go to Hell but no one knows but the almighty One

God hates sin. It is totally against His character, His Holiness and His Justice. Sin makes Him sick.

Even one sin is enough to keep anyone out of Heaven. It doesn't matter if it is just wittle white wie.

But God being so awesome in His mercy and grace and so abundant in eternal love sent Jesus who willing suffered, shed all His blood, and died on the cross of tortures for our sins and who rose again from the dead for our justification (that is being made right with God as though we never sinned).

God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance see II Peter 3:9.

God hates sin, but in His awesome mercy and perfect Love Jesus died in our place for our sins so we could be saved if we just turn from our sins and call on the Name of the Lord Jesus with all our hearts.

😄

Originally posted by The Phantom
So people who love each other who are ready to face everything should go to hell? So people with STDs should go to hell? These rules aren't right. If all these things are true, we are all sinners. Every last one of us. Everyone lies. Everyone has sex. Everyone does those things. There isn't a human alive who hasn't done one of those things. If there is a God he shouldn't punish us for being human, and allowing us to do this stuff period!

God doesnt want anyone to go to Hell. It is not His heart nor His will. If it was, He would have never sent Jesus to die our sins and rise again in the first place.

Now far as STDS, for that matter sex before marriage. It is a sin, those who do such are going against God's commands which are given for our protection (against STDs and against unwanted pregnancy which can result in abortion, etc.)

Does that mean that if someone has or does have sex outside of marriage that there is no hope for that person? That that person is due for Hell no matter what?

No, of course not. There is forgiveness with God for anyone who acknowledges he or she has sinned.

It is best to never ever sin, but since we are all human and none of us is perfect, we will mess up. We will sin.

Yet with God there is abundant mercy and forgiveness.

So if someone hasn't done a sin, it is best not to do it. Yet if that person does, then there is forgiveness from God to the broken and contrite repentant heart.

To continue in response to your reply...God created us as sexual beings. He is the one who designed orgasms to happen. He created male's penises to erect and become hard so they could fit better into the vagina versus being woppy and not fitting right. He created the female vagina to moisten for a more easy injection of the male penis. God created the male with the ability to ejaculate so that a new baby could be formed. God created sex not only to populate the earth but also for our pleasure and enjoyment. Sex before marriage is not enjoyable in the long run. Oh sure, in the short run the bed is hoppin and the lovers are boppin. However, with the great risk of STDs such as AIDS, unwanted pregnancies that so often lead to abortion and depression, and if that person ever gets married the shame and guilt of having a partner or multiple partners before can be overwhelming. But again there is forgiveness in God through Jesus Christ.Truly all of us has sinned and lied. Now not all of us has had sex, but still many have.
But God doesn't punish us for being human, for being sexual creatures.
Instead for disobeying Him. Let me put it another way. Let's say a parent told their child not to touch a stove. That child thinks he can touch it just cause he was created to touch and explore, so he thereby has the right to touch this hot stove. His parent warns him that it is ok to explore, but certain things cannot be touched like hot stoves. The child ignores him and touches it thus getting burned.
There is nothing wrong with sex. Sex in and of itself (like touching and exploring for a child) is not a sin. It is when it is used outside the safe bonds of marriage that it becomes dangerous and deadly.

God isn't out there to destroy us humans in the Lake of Fire. That isn't His will. He wants us all to be saved. The only way is through Jesus, calling on His Name and turning from sin and receiving Him into our lives and believing on Jesus with all our hearts confessing Him as Lord.

Where did I learn all that sex stuff?

Believe it nor not, from a Christian Bible College.

Originally posted by HairyPooper
God hates sin. It is totally against His character, His Holiness and His Justice. Sin makes Him sick.

Even one sin is enough to keep anyone out of Heaven. It doesn't matter if it is just wittle white wie.

But God being so awesome in His mercy and grace and so abundant in eternal love sent Jesus who willing suffered, shed all His blood, and died on the cross of tortures for our sins and who rose again from the dead for our justification (that is being made right with God as though we never sinned).

God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance see II Peter 3:9.

God hates sin, but in His awesome mercy and perfect Love Jesus died in our place for our sins so we could be saved if we just turn from our sins and call on the Name of the Lord Jesus with all our hearts.

😄

You sure speak for God a lot.

You can not understand God. You are not the judge over God, and the bible is just a book.

Man I can't take pooper.......I gotta go lay down..... 🤨

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Think about it logically. Who is gonna be in Heaven? Noone. You and all your friends, and all your favourite musicians, actors, etc... will be in Hell. It's all because of the way 'God' set up his system. It's almost impossible to never sin in your life.
And, if I'm right, then logically, Hell couldn't b that bad. In fact, it should be awsome! I mean, the devil is the opposite o god, right? And he resides over Hell. So why the hell (excuse the pun) should he be told by god what to do with us when we go there??? In fact, he'd probably have an eternal party. The bible is a book written 'by the men of God' right? Whicjh means that they- God'smen, hence, God- are the ones/one who is telling everyone what's going on in hell.
Now, if the Devil's work is sin- the things we're going to hell for... then why would he be so different later? He won't possibly be like 'yo! why did you listen to me? *whip whip*

(Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Satanist, but I don't follow the same god as anyone (unless there are some other Rastas around...))