Let's be more specific, shall we?
Mainstream rap: Shite
Rap and hip hop (true rap and hip-hop): Great!
Most of the acts masquerading as Rap and R n B are fakes. I hear barely any rapping in 50 Cents stuff. I hear mumbled ramblings. Where the hell is there any rhythym or blues in Beyonce? These acts are POP. Those compilations that claim to be R n B and Soul are POP. Since when do you put a price tag on Soul music? "Blues" doesn't solely consist of whining about a boyfriend who dumped you, b*tches.
It's a shame that genres are allowed to bleed like this, with so many ignorant fools thinking this stuff is legit rap music and R N B and hip hop.
Check out the origins of hip hop and rap and you'll find some good stuff. Check out the likes of The Roots for some awesome hip hop with a difference.
Anything that Joe Nobody likes is pop music. They are casual morons who don't look any further than whats in front of them, so they buy pop music, because it's easy to find. Crap like 50 Cent, Eminem, Beyonce, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte all cater for idiots looking for a quick fix for their simplistic rap/hiphop/rock needs respectively. Every genre has a bunch of "black sheep" negatively representing them to the unwashed mindless masses. People that know nothing about making good music, don't know what is good music, so naturally most people will flock to garbage because their image is "cool". "Fiddy is a gansta, I wanna be just like him and get shot" etc.
/end rant
WOW, point taken. however, my opinion still stands: i don't like the rap THAT I HAVE HEARD. but i am sure there is decent rap out there. it is true that i haven't heard any of the "undergound" rap or the real hip hop. I am sure it could be good but from what i have heard (which is mostly main stream), i reallly don't like it
Originally posted by Red Superfly
Let's be more specific, shall we?Mainstream rap: Shite
Rap and hip hop (true rap and hip-hop): Great!
Most of the acts masquerading as Rap and R n B are fakes. I hear barely any rapping in 50 Cents stuff. I hear mumbled ramblings. Where the hell is there any rhythym or blues in Beyonce? These acts are POP. Those compilations that claim to be R n B and Soul are POP. Since when do you put a price tag on Soul music? "Blues" doesn't solely consist of whining about a boyfriend who dumped you, b*tches.
It's a shame that genres are allowed to bleed like this, with so many ignorant fools thinking this stuff is legit rap music and R N B and hip hop.
Check out the origins of hip hop and rap and you'll find some good stuff. Check out the likes of The Roots for some awesome hip hop with a difference.
Anything that Joe Nobody likes is pop music. They are casual morons who don't look any further than whats in front of them, so they buy pop music, because it's easy to find. Crap like 50 Cent, Eminem, Beyonce, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte all cater for idiots looking for a quick fix for their simplistic rap/hiphop/rock needs respectively. Every genre has a bunch of "black sheep" negatively representing them to the unwashed mindless masses. People that know nothing about making good music, don't know what is good music, so naturally most people will flock to garbage because their image is "cool". "Fiddy is a gansta, I wanna be just like him and get shot" etc.
/end rant
I agree with some of this but i wouldnt put beyonce in the same category as 50 Cent. Fair enough if you dont like her music and/or what she represents but the girl is very talented and an accomplished vocalist.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I agree with some of this but i wouldnt put beyonce in the same category as 50 Cent. Fair enough if you dont like her music and/or what she represents but the girl is very talented and an accomplished vocalist.
I cant speak for Red Superfly here so correct me if I'm wrong Red, but i think he was saying that real RnB and soul music like James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding, Ray Charles and such never had to parade around semi naked to sell records. There are lots of girls that can sing as well as Beyonce but not many look like her therefore they are not millionaires. With artists like Beyonce, 50 Cent, Nelly and the rest its not just the music that the kids buy into its the whole image, whereas with the real artists of yesteryear it was purely about the music.
Originally posted by Kumar
WOW, point taken. however, my opinion still stands: i don't like the rap THAT I HAVE HEARD. but i am sure there is decent rap out there. it is true that i haven't heard any of the "undergound" rap or the real hip hop. I am sure it could be good but from what i have heard (which is mostly main stream), i reallly don't like it
Well at least you admit that it doesn't all suck, and that you just dislike what you have heard.
Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Actually saying rap sucks isnt ignorant. Its right.The defense rests 😮💨
Originally posted by Kumar
a question that has perplexed me for years. why do people enjoy listening to that horrid excuse for music. i mean, how is rap still popular after like 20 years of straight "sex with many anonymous partners", "do drugs till we die", Pimps, bitches and hoes, and killing each other. not to mention continuous distasteful profanity. Rappers have no talent. if you watch any live footage of a rap "concert", the rapper just looks bored passing back and forth on the stage. at least with real bands, they have fun when they perform. and rap is mostly pop these days. all the preps and jocks love rap.
bottom line: rap is the bane of my existencefeel free to express your opinions.......
❌ Sort of sad really.
Re: why does anybody like rap?!?!?!
Originally posted by Kumar
i mean, how is rap still popular after like 20 years of straight "sex with many anonymous partners", "do drugs till we die", Pimps, bitches and hoes, and killing each other. not to mention continuous distasteful profanity.Rappers have no talent. if you watch any live footage of a rap "concert", the rapper just looks bored passing back and forth on the stage. at least with real bands, they have fun when they perform. and rap is mostly pop these days. all the preps and jocks love rap.
As for the first part umm...what is rock...."Sex, drugs, and rock & roll"
And the rappers that are in it for the music really do get into it, but people like 50 Cent that are just in it for the money do not.
I think the lines in koolrunningz' signature describe the mainstream situation fairly well:
I smoke cigarettes down to filter, smoke the filter down to space
now I'm gonna roll this question tight and smoke that shit up in your face
now if you were to alter masks every time fame circus approaches
do you really think your maker wouldn't notice?
🙂
Originally posted by Red Superflyi completely agree with you artist like 50 cent, mob deep, and the ones that rap about hoes, killin folks, are so ridiculous. rap music used to be good and evryone loved it and there werent so many damn stereotypes back then. its a bad generation of music and its only getting worse.
Let's be more specific, shall we?Mainstream rap: Shite
Rap and hip hop (true rap and hip-hop): Great!
Most of the acts masquerading as Rap and R n B are fakes. I hear barely any rapping in 50 Cents stuff. I hear mumbled ramblings. Where the hell is there any rhythym or blues in Beyonce? These acts are POP. Those compilations that claim to be R n B and Soul are POP. Since when do you put a price tag on Soul music? "Blues" doesn't solely consist of whining about a boyfriend who dumped you, b*tches.
It's a shame that genres are allowed to bleed like this, with so many ignorant fools thinking this stuff is legit rap music and R N B and hip hop.
Check out the origins of hip hop and rap and you'll find some good stuff. Check out the likes of The Roots for some awesome hip hop with a difference.
Anything that Joe Nobody likes is pop music. They are casual morons who don't look any further than whats in front of them, so they buy pop music, because it's easy to find. Crap like 50 Cent, Eminem, Beyonce, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte all cater for idiots looking for a quick fix for their simplistic rap/hiphop/rock needs respectively. Every genre has a bunch of "black sheep" negatively representing them to the unwashed mindless masses. People that know nothing about making good music, don't know what is good music, so naturally most people will flock to garbage because their image is "cool". "Fiddy is a gansta, I wanna be just like him and get shot" etc.
/end rant
the best thing to do is go underground. that is where you will find good music.
Originally posted by koolruningzyou are so right. i commend you on that one.
I cant speak for Red Superfly here so correct me if I'm wrong Red, but i think he was saying that real RnB and soul music like James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding, Ray Charles and such never had to parade around semi naked to sell records. There are lots of girls that can sing as well as Beyonce but not many look like her therefore they are not millionaires. With artists like Beyonce, 50 Cent, Nelly and the rest its not just the music that the kids buy into its the whole image, whereas with the real artists of yesteryear it was purely about the music.
Originally posted by Darth Calladus
i completely agree with you artist like 50 cent, mob deep, and the ones that rap about hoes, killin folks, are so ridiculous. rap music used to be good and evryone loved it and there werent so many damn stereotypes back then. its a bad generation of music and its only getting worse.the best thing to do is go underground. that is where you will find good music.
I think the problem is that preppy white kids who knew very little about music started listening to rap, and none of them bothered "going underground"
As far as this obsession with underground music, the claims that underground stuff is better may be true with rap/hip hop, but for rock there are some awesome bands that are very popular. There are just as many popular bands that are shit, but it becomes a matter of separating good from bad, as opposed to "going undergorund"
This topic's been done to death.
You hate rap? Fine. No need to announce it to the world, it's not going to do anything besides stir up shit.
I could see if you went into an already existing rap thread and you said "I hate rap it sucks blah blah blah it's not real music." At least then you'd just be giving your opinion on the topic. But why make a thread dedicated to hating a genre? It's completely pointless.
there is different types of rap aside from the 2 obvious ones hip-hop and rap. theres crunk rap, gangsta rap, and others but then there is underground. and the reason we call it underground is cuz its not mainstream and chances are people havent heard of it. but im sure you knew that already and that still fails to grasp what im telling you.
different genres talk about diffent stuff and the same stuff at the same time but for rap it didnt used to be like that. but now since rap has changed so much theres different genres within it. not all rappers raps about the hoes money sex ect. theres other rappers that are poetic and absract. but you wuld never hear them because some of them, that wuld make it on TV, are banned from the media cuz thats "not what people wanna hear these days."
i can undestand why you feel that way about rap because you have apparently always heard mainstream rap. but as far as going underground. man thats the only place you will find it. do you really think you can go into a random music store and see cannibal ox or madlib or MF Doom Cds, but of course you'll see those worthless posers like 50 cent and P. Diddy, pfft id rather listen to Beck.
mainstream rap is in now cuz the media not cause the rappers.if the media wasnt ****ed up then ur perspective on rap wuld be so different. its the medias fault for letting those wanna bes on tv...... so plz dont hate rap its not really as bad as it may seem.
Originally posted by Afro Cheese
This topic's been done to death.You hate rap? Fine. No need to announce it to the world, it's not going to do anything besides stir up shit.
I could see if you went into an already existing rap thread and you said "I hate rap it sucks blah blah blah it's not real music." At least then you'd just be giving your opinion on the topic. But why make a thread dedicated to hating a genre? It's completely pointless.
Afro Cheese droppin knowledge once more. 😮💨