Re: Is Marvel Lame?
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I like a lot of Marvel comics on face value, but where are the classics from Marvel, the comics that are groundbreaking?
Have they existed in the last 25 years apart from Marvels?DC have had Sandman, Hellblazer, Swampthing, Watchman, Kingdom Come etc
DC as Wildstorm has had the Authority.
Marvel has had Marvels.
I ask you are Marvel the Mcdonalds of Comic Companies? Is it always the same everywhere?
Prove me wrong!
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Lol. The nerve
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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Have you read Runaways #1? If the MMORPG would be anything like the one in that, it would rule. 😱What about Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. It is going to rule, I think. 🙂
i have it somewhere i think... ill have a look...
it could, but it could end up like the movie game too...
Whirly: Yes, DC has had Watchmen and Kingdom Come, but where did the inspiration for those stories come from, where did the archetype of those stories come from? Gruenwald's Squadron Supreme maxi series.
Marvel still publishes a number of great titles, but that hack Bendis still gets the numbers, and therefore the media exposure. Captain America and Young Avengers far surpasses anything I've seen from Benids the past year or so. Heinberg has said how much of a Bendis fan he is, but the first major thing he does, after assembling the Young Avengers, is bringing back the Vision, which kind of spits in the face of Avengers: Disassembled--which I was really glad to see. That is, Vision coming back, not Avengers Disassembled. Disassembled was crap.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
In the past 25 years for Marvel: Squadron Supreme instantly rings a bell as groundbreaking. It was the first story of superheroes getting too high and mighty and taking over. Was it as good as the later stories of the same ilk? I don't know, maybe not, but it was the first.Maybe it wasn't really all that groundbreaking, but it did explore a different theme than so many of Marvel's current comics. The first year of Fabian Nicieza's Cable & Deadpool where Cable is, blatantly, a Jesus figure. Most often, writers and creators get kind of scared to parallel Biblical events and characters, and he told a great story.
In my opinion, Peter David and Christopher Priest are the two of the best writers that Marvel has access to, they're using PAD a lot, lately, and I hope to see them give Priest another chance. They expect his books to sell when Marvel sabotages them. His Cap and Falcon was doing great, then they relaunched Cap and decided they wanted to unify the character, and that two headlining books for him would be too much, so they axed Priest's book. If they gave him control of the Avengers, or Spider-Man or the X-Men, it would sell simply because of the brand name, and he would tell some ridiculously awesome stories.
Are David and Priest's stories always ground breaking? No. But they consistently come closer to new and exciting themes than Bendis or Quesada does.
Squadrn Supreme was but, Miracleman, as Marvel man in the first story Arc proceeded this just 🙂 But then Moore did the totalitarian bit with Ozzy M in Watchmen two years after Squadron Supreme, Moore did it better🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In a comic debate we talk about how the fight would go if the characters were fighting to the best of their ability within the parameters set by their comic book appearances. For example if wolverine is shown in comics being able to stay conscious and take hits from the hulk and still keep going, then in a debate you cant turn it around and say according to real world this and that and his bio he shouldnt be able to do that. It just doesnt work like that. Despite your personal feelings on the matter.By your own admission you're not a big comic book reader i remember you saying to me you've only recently started to read comics more than you used to. Therefore i said you're hardly in the best position to make such a comment on marvel comics which is true. I never said you couldnt make an assessment, i never said your comment was invalid. You however over reacted and took a negative stance on that comment saying ive said it many times before, ive been talking behind your back saying it and getting really quite defensive on the issue.
The jest was in saying you hated certain characters. That was obviously a joke because you had just said people keep calling you a hater. It just seems now you've forgotten the context within which i made those comments. Its fortunate that i have not.
It's has I've said a hundred times...he can't follow trains of thought.....I KNEW IT....I knew it wasn't just me.....
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Notice the badspelling, and the fanboyishness...
Unmistakeable...