No I take and accept your point, I think ultimates are reasonably groundbreaking now. 616 Universe needs to die imo.
Alright, I wasn't sure if I'd communicated my point.
I like 616 more than Ultimate. I like the Ultimate stuff a lot, but 616 has the history and all the dark, forgotten, obscure nooks and crannies. I like the obscurities it has hidden, and all the over the top stuff it can do, and that it has done. It has history, which makes it easier to tell the stories, in my opinion. The reason people don't like 616 is they don't focus on the totality of it. They focus on Spider-Man, Wolverine and a few others. I know that's an old argument, and they are good characters, up to a point, but there are so many others they could use, which is why I love Busiek and Nicieza's work, they use the entire 616 universe.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Alright, I wasn't sure if I'd communicated my point.I like 616 more than Ultimate. I like the Ultimate stuff a lot, but 616 has the history and all the dark, forgotten, obscure nooks and crannies. I like the obscurities it has hidden, and all the over the top stuff it can do, and that it has done. It has history, which makes it easier to tell the stories, in my opinion. The reason people don't like 616 is they don't focus on the totality of it. They focus on Spider-Man, Wolverine and a few others. I know that's an old argument, and they are good characters, up to a point, but there are so many others they could use, which is why I love Busiek and Nicieza's work, they use the entire 616 universe.
I understand the history point I read my first Marvels in about 1974 - 1975. I feel though the nooks and crannies are now the problem continuity is shot to shit. 616 needs a crisis if its to live the baggage of the last 40+ years makes it very incoherent imo. I take your point about totality yet I feel that totality often lends itself to camp, caricature and parody of its previous greatness. /you only have to look at the Xmen to see this.
you only have to look at the Xmen to see this
Pretty much, only the Uncanny X-Men book sucks these days. Astonishing is great, although this past "oh no the danger room is alive" arc isn't that good. Milligan's is interesting, somewhat overdramatic at times, but if you suspend disbelief, it works. Uncanny is a pile of stagnant crap, because Claremont doesn't know what to do anymore. He's told all of his stories.
Originally posted by jinzin
well I would be if I were gettin smacked around.....too bad that's not within your capabilities to do...
Please you typing exercise, I just got you in the game versus forum, you just admitted it.
Here it is once again....
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Please you typing exercise, I just got you in the game versus forum, you just admitted it.Here it is once again....
you are deficient.....
Originally posted by jinzin
you are deficient.....
Its you man, stop the reverse psychology, you know its you, who else could it be?