Originally posted by leonidas
it wasn't the xmen that saved marvel. it was a number of things: internal reorganization of their 'system of doing things', it was an end to failed acquisitions, it was a better licensing and marketing strategy and above all, it was the movies, starting with blade which granted the company enough cash to 'rise from the dead'. why did they have problems? they likely got complacent and cocky, thinking they could never lose touch with the public. an endless string of vary-covered #1's that no one was buying, silly spinoffs, and poor stories also all contributed to their fall. i also believe that continually increasing prices lost them a lot of people - me for one. they simply priced me out of collecting. how can young kids be expected to pay $4 for a comic book? not to mention all the x-overs that meant that if you wanted the WHOLE story you needed to buy 20 different issues - the main ones likely on better stock and costing $7!! tpb's and graphic novels and specialty issues could all run upwards of $30 or more. then you have the need for immediate gratification so many kids have nowadays. as a teacher, i know how hard it is to kid young kids interested in reading. they don't want to have to wait a month to follow a story - IF they can be made interested in reading at ALL.all of these things hurt marvel. toys, movies, videogames are great ways to intro characters to marvel. funny to think - many of todays kids will know hulk from movies and games and will have never seen a hulk comic!! things really have changed since i (and whirly - good decision to change the name back btw! 🙂) were whippersnappers . . .
in a way it did.
x-books in top 20 regardless.
that's loyalty fam
<<in a way it did.
x-books in top 20 regardless.
that's loyalty fam>>
doesn't matter. books alone wouldn't have saved them - or rather they might have somehow stayed afloat but had only very ltd number of titles and next to no creative staff. xmen would NOT have been enough to 'save' them. did it help? of course. as did spiderman and the other top titles. the popularity of their titles needless to say, kept them running for 40 years! doesn't change the fact that it was things OUTSIDE the comics themselves that regained solvency for marvel and now keeps them going very strong indeed.
Originally posted by Lord S
One word: Onslaught.Yeah, pissing away 30+ years of continuity to make the X-Men look good was a real turnoff for a lot of fans. Sad thing was Onslaught was actually a cool villain...I hope they bring him back...and use him a bit wiser next time.
Yea, stupid secondary mutations and stuff.
I liked it when the xmen were more street level, and not as much of gods, you know what I mean.
Then they weakened juggernaut.
Originally posted by CorderaMitchellI hate the onslaught saga destroyed my favorite character made X-Men Gods.
Yea, stupid secondary mutations and stuff.I liked it when the xmen were more street level, and not as much of gods, you know what I mean.
Then they weakened juggernaut.
In the top ten most popular comic books sold today in America, At number one is a superman Comic. Marvel have a the most comics in the top ten though which includes ( I think) at least......2 or 3 X titles.
Ever since Jim Lee started drawing Superman he has been in that top slot, when he did Batman hush that went to the top slot and when he returned to superman that became the top slot again.
So DC owns the no.1 most popular comic but Marvel is the one raking in the cash at the moment..............
In Wizard I heard it had something to do with Marvel having just finished purchasing Toybiz and some other company(I think it was a card company) & the death of Superman. After that series, Comic book sales @ large started dropping and Marvel couldn't withstand it @ the time. A strong Marvel means a strong industry, unfortunately the opposite was also true. Marvel being gone didn't do much to raise DC sales.
Originally posted by brainchild81
In Wizard I heard it had something to do with Marvel having just finished purchasing Toybiz and some other company(I think it was a card company) & the death of Superman. After that series, Comic book sales @ large started dropping and Marvel couldn't withstand it @ the time. A strong Marvel means a strong industry, unfortunately the opposite was also true. Marvel being gone didn't do much to raise DC sales.
true.
Hey Brainchild did you make the Punisher story and the Avengers Disassembled one on your link cos they are funny 😆 😂 😆
Originally posted by willRulesNo. They are funny as hell though. Seen this before? Saint Spidey
true.Hey Brainchild did you make the Punisher story and the Avengers Disassembled one on your link cos they are funny 😆 😂 😆
Re: Why did Marvel go bancrupt in the nineties
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
I know they overextended themselves and turned fans off with 3000000 different covers on each 1 issue etc.
But was their more to it?
You just made it into my top five of "least hated KMC-members" 😉
Originally posted by leonidas
it wasn't the xmen that saved marvel. it was a number of things: internal reorganization of their 'system of doing things', it was an end to failed acquisitions, it was a better licensing and marketing strategy and above all, it was the movies, starting with blade which granted the company enough cash to 'rise from the dead'. why did they have problems? they likely got complacent and cocky, thinking they could never lose touch with the public. an endless string of vary-covered #1's that no one was buying, silly spinoffs, and poor stories also all contributed to their fall. i also believe that continually increasing prices lost them a lot of people - me for one. they simply priced me out of collecting. how can young kids be expected to pay $4 for a comic book? not to mention all the x-overs that meant that if you wanted the WHOLE story you needed to buy 20 different issues - the main ones likely on better stock and costing $7!! tpb's and graphic novels and specialty issues could all run upwards of $30 or more. then you have the need for immediate gratification so many kids have nowadays. as a teacher, i know how hard it is to kid young kids interested in reading. they don't want to have to wait a month to follow a story - IF they can be made interested in reading at ALL.all of these things hurt marvel. toys, movies, videogames are great ways to intro characters to marvel. funny to think - many of todays kids will know hulk from movies and games and will have never seen a hulk comic!! things really have changed since i (and whirly - good decision to change the name back btw! 🙂) were whippersnappers . . .
I only intended to be Kuntz for 48 hours it had the desired affect Leo 😄