The Official BLEACH series Thread

Started by Nemesis X524 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
She was a child 100 years ago. Those 100 years is all she has.

And here I thought she was older than 100. Maybe 125 or something although I have no idea where I came up with that idea. But still, she never fully confessed to Gin that she loved him so that's why she never had the chance to hook up with him and sure she shows a liking to her captain but they're just friends and the only reason she acts sexual around him is because she's doing it for laughs.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Is Aizen even interested in women? The guy just seems so dead inside, he doesn't even feel the slightest urge to experience a relationship at all.

Lol, I remember a debate on whether Aizen abused Orihime back in Hueco Mundo, and Momo Hinamori before that...

Nemesis, why is Rangiku being a virgin so important to you? 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nemesis, why is Rangiku being a virgin so important to you? 😐

It really isn't important to me. I'm only making this an issue for one of you guys started the silly debate and I'm trying not to lose but to move on, let's just call this a tie. We don't exactly have any evidence that she did it with somebody and we don't have any evidence she didn't so let's just move on and discuss something else.

Even if Rangiku liked Gin (and although they're close, I wouldn't say their relationship is necessarily romantic), that doesn't mean she wouldn't have other relationships too.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Is Aizen even interested in women? The guy just seems so dead inside, he doesn't even feel the slightest urge to experience a relationship at all.

I'd kinda doubt it. His 'perfect captain' persona isn't much of a womanizer (And if asked, he could stare wistfully into the distance and comment on waiting for the right one, or say his duties keep him too busy to look for love), and his real self seems to acknowledge, like, 3 people as actual beings and they're all guys.

Originally posted by Q99
I'd kinda doubt it. His 'perfect captain' persona isn't much of a womanizer (And if asked, he could stare wistfully into the distance and comment on waiting for the right one, or say his duties keep him too busy to look for love), and his real self seems to acknowledge, like, 3 people as actual beings and they're all guys.

So you're under the implication that Aizen is a homo? It's not that I don't want to disagree with ya but eversince Aizen obtained the Hogyoku, he was able to turn Hollows into Arrancars but from what I can guess, he can edit them so wouldn't that mean he purposely gave Harribel those F-Cups?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
So you're under the implication that Aizen is a homo? It's not that I don't want to disagree with ya but eversince Aizen obtained the Hogyoku, he was able to turn Hollows into Arrancars but from what I can guess, he can edit them so wouldn't that mean he purposely gave Harribel those F-Cups?

Nah, I think he's asexual. The three people he considers as people, Urahara, Gin, and Ichigo, are as a curiosity/rival, assistant, and a whatever he has planned for Ichigo respectively. It's possible there could be sexual interest but he really hasn't shown it.

What arrancar look like was indicated to be somewhat random according to an anime omake, and most of the time the final form is pretty strongly based on the original. Wonderweiss was tweeked, but only in giving a specific power. I doubt he decided Harribel's figure.

IDK if Aizen has a sexuality, but I doubt he ever had a relationship. If he had sex it was probably more like ordering an arrancar (and given their personalities most would be honored to do it). I always wondered about Loly/Menoly because they weren't anyone's fraccion or soldiers but seemingly just servants Aizen kept with him that were clearly attracted to him.

That is a possibility although it could just be that the reason why those two Arrancars are so fond of Aizen is because he treats them like civilized folk while soul reapers do nothing but attempt to kill them on sight and think they're nothing but monsters. That would seem like the most logical sense.

That's kind of confusing since most hollows look down on Shinigami and hate it when they're more powerful than them. Wonder what made Loly/Melony make an exception for Aizen. I also wonder how they are able to tell Ichigo is a human apart from the other shinigami.

There was a chance Aizen could've did something while he was still in training for the Gotei; although this is unlikely as well.

All arrancar look up to Aizen, every Espada usually at one point or another gave a speech that made them seem like religious fanatics totally devoted to Aizen. Look at how Szayel reacted when he thought Aizen was upset with him for ordering out the Exequias. Loly and Menoly on the other hand look like they also hold Aizen to a different kind of esteem...

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Where is the friggin evidence that she got laid? If there has been no proof at all that she did it with somebody, then she is a virgin and the lack of evidence is my evidence that she is one.

Lulz, where is the evidence that she did not have sex with someone? Saying that there is no evidence she did is faulty, as no one in the manga is said to have had sex. Only those who have children have presumably had sex.

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a) She's a woman.

b) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's.

c) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's who knows how to use her...gifts.

d) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's who knows how to use her...gifts and has lived for over a century.

e) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's, who knows how to use her...gifts, and has lived for over a century in close contact with other males and females whom she knows well.

f) This is a manga that does not deal with sex, love, or any such stuff. Simply because such matters are not brought up, does not mean that they do not exist. You don't see Shinigami eating or taking a shower and such. That does not mean that they do not eat or take a shower.

The situation points more towards her having had sex at some point in her life, as opposed to her being a virgin.

Originally posted by Q99
Nah, I think he's asexual. The three people he considers as people, Urahara, Gin, and Ichigo, are as a curiosity/rival, assistant, and a whatever he has planned for Ichigo respectively. It's possible there could be sexual interest but he really hasn't shown it.

What arrancar look like was indicated to be somewhat random according to an anime omake, and most of the time the final form is pretty strongly based on the original. Wonderweiss was tweeked, but only in giving a specific power. I doubt he decided Harribel's figure.

Pretty much. I doubt he's interested in sexual relations with anyone, seeing as he considers himself above everyone at this point.

If he's had sex before, it's likely during his career as a Lieutenant/Captain, or at some point when he was the leader at Hueco Mundo.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

e) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's, who knows how to use her...gifts, and has lived for over a century in close contact with other males and females whom she knows well.

Similarly, Hisagi and Izuru are quite attractive males of similar age range and situation who are fairly social. Is it possible they're virgins? Yes, but I doubt it for similar reasons.

Of the vice-captains, the only two I'd bet are virgins are Yachiru and Nemu (and of the captains, just Toshiro). Everyone else has had plenty of means, motive, and opportunity. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if Rangiku dated Hisagi or Izuru for awhile at some point.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lulz, where is the evidence that she did not have sex with someone? Saying that there is no evidence she did is faulty, as no one in the manga is said to have had sex. Only those who have children have presumably had sex.

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a) She's a woman.

b) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's.

c) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's who knows how to use her...gifts.

d) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's who knows how to use her...gifts and has lived for over a century.

e) She's an attractive woman that appears to be in her 20's-30's, who knows how to use her...gifts, and has lived for over a century in close contact with other males and females whom she knows well.

f) This is a manga that does not deal with sex, love, or any such stuff. Simply because such matters are not brought up, does not mean that they do not exist. You don't see Shinigami eating or taking a shower and such. That does not mean that they do not eat or take a shower.

The situation points more towards her having had sex at some point in her life, as opposed to her being a virgin.

Oh for god sakes, I just told everybody to end the debate and let it end with a tie. You keeping this discussion up now is getting annoying.

a) Sorry, I must've been blind to not realize the obviousness right there.

b) Okay, so? So is Boa Hancock in One Piece.

c) So would a lot of other women but they probably haven't used them yet.

d) Yeah and still even though she has her eyes mostly on Gin, she never did confess her love to him and thus proves she hasn't been laid.

e) She may have been around a bunch of males but she never did attempt to screw them. Females? So you're implying she's gone yuri? I wouldn't be surprised if she was but here's a fun fact, if a woman has done it with another woman and hasn't done it with a guy, she's still technically a virgin.

f) The scene with Rangiku taking a bath and the scene where Rangiku eats food with Orihime both say hi.

Argh! I didn't even want to keep this up but you're making me do so. Enough already.

b) Okay, so? So is Boa Hancock in One Piece.

I kinda assume she's not too... she's sorta a celebrity on the island. The tattoo on her back and being in a uni-sex island increase her odds of being a virgin though, so the situation's a lot different than Rangiku's, but were it not for those the odds of her being a virgin would be quite small.


c) So would a lot of other women but they probably haven't used them yet.

It's pretty rare for social people in their 20s-30s with sex drives and available partners to be virgins. Relationships happen.

Exceptions exist for people who chose not to and such, but we've been shown no signs she's celibate, and the odds are lower.


d) Yeah and still even though she has her eyes mostly on Gin, she never did confess her love to him and thus proves she hasn't been laid.

We don't even know if that's a romantic love, and just because someone pines for one person doesn't mean they don't date others in the meantime.

It's not like Gin was the only person she likes, far from it.


e) She may have been around a bunch of males but she never did attempt to screw them.

Or maybe in that century she found a guy she liked enough to sleep with. It's common.

Females? So you're implying she's gone yuri?

Possible though I wouldn't bet on it. She doesn't ping my gaydar.

I wouldn't be surprised if she was but here's a fun fact, if a woman has done it with another woman and hasn't done it with a guy, she's still technically a virgin.

Pfft. Sex is sex, I wouldn't call that technically anything.

Originally posted by Q99
I kinda assume she's not too... she's sorta a celebrity on the island. The tattoo on her back and being in a uni-sex island increase her odds of being a virgin though, so the situation's a lot different than Rangiku's, but were it not for those the odds of her being a virgin would be quite small.

It's pretty rare for social people in their 20s-30s with sex drives and available partners to be virgins. Relationships happen.

Exceptions exist for people who chose not to and such, but we've been shown no signs she's celibate, and the odds are lower.

We don't even know if that's a romantic love, and just because someone pines for one person doesn't mean they don't date others in the meantime.

It's not like Gin was the only person she likes, far from it.

Or maybe in that century she found a guy she liked enough to sleep with. It's common.

Possible though I wouldn't bet on it. She doesn't ping my gaydar.

Pfft. Sex is sex, I wouldn't call that technically anything.

Okay so using Boa as an example was probably not a good idea but my example on Mai Shiranui still stands.

Haven't you heard of the 40 Year Old Virgin? 😛

She doesn't even try to have sex. If you're saying that her not having it is unlikely, it is probably due to her sex appeal. She shows off her chest to distract males during fights so she can get the upperhand.

So even though she went all "Gin, oh how I have a huge crush on him", she sleeps with people? This is the part where I say "I call bullcrap on that statement."

The only reason she acts sexual around Hitsugaya is because she's doing it for laughs and if she was a ho like you guys imply, she wouldn't have smacked Kego around like a ragdoll whenever he attempted to jump on her like he's Lupin the Third.

And just how did you come up with that knowledge and who would the guy be, huh? As far I'm aware, you're pulling this out of your @$$.

I don't know, when she hugged, tickled, got on, and comforted Orihime while nude...

Nice of you to avoid logic.

To put it another way, given the situation we shouldn't assume lack of sex. We really shouldn't assume either way, only assess probability... and honestly that probability looks fairly high to me. Teenagers and adults have sex.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Oh for god sakes, I just told everybody to end the debate and let it end with a tie. You keeping this discussion up now is getting annoying.

a) Sorry, I must've been blind to not realize the obviousness right there.

b) Okay, so? So is Boa Hancock in One Piece.

c) So would a lot of other women but they probably haven't used them yet.

d) Yeah and still even though she has her eyes mostly on Gin, she never did confess her love to him and thus proves she hasn't been laid.

e) She may have been around a bunch of males but she never did attempt to screw them. Females? So you're implying she's gone yuri? I wouldn't be surprised if she was but here's a fun fact, if a woman has done it with another woman and hasn't done it with a guy, she's still technically a virgin.

f) The scene with Rangiku taking a bath and the scene where Rangiku eats food with Orihime both say hi.

Argh! I didn't even want to keep this up but you're making me do so. Enough already.

'End in a tie'? Sure, seeing as we don't have any evidence whether or not she's a virgin. Though the odds are in favour of her not being one, given her circumstances.

a) Well, you're Nemesis X. Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to pointing stuff out to you.

b) So remind me again, are Boa's circumstances similar to Rangiku's? No need to answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

c) Rangiku has. She doesn't mind using her attractiveness to get her way. She tries to do so with Ichigo, even though it fails as Ichigo is gay.

d) There's no evidence that Gin is the only man she is interested in. Neither do you know whether or not she's slept with him. It's just wishful thinking and speculation on your part that she has not had sex with Gin.

e) And you know this because you've seen every single moment of her life? Nah, you don't know whether or not she's tried to get it on with anyone. Given the fact that's she's daily surrounded by a lot of good-looking men and has been so for a century, odds are in favour of her trying to initiate something with them. Then there's the fact that Gin is her oldest friend, and the one she used to trust the most.
Here's a fun fact for you. If a normal woman has had anal sex only, she's still technically a virgin. I guess that means that she has not had sex at all in her life. Oh wait...

f) Lulz, looks like you missed the point completely.
Also, find me a Shonen Jump manga or a mainstream Shonen manga that depicts sex, and I'll possibly retract this point.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
'End in a tie'? Sure, seeing as we don't have any evidence whether or not she's a virgin. Though the odds are in favour of her not being one, given her circumstances.

a) Well, you're Nemesis X. Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to pointing stuff out to you.

b) So remind me again, are Boa's circumstances similar to Rangiku's? No need to answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

c) Rangiku has. She doesn't mind using her attractiveness to get her way. She tries to do so with Ichigo, even though it fails as Ichigo is gay.

d) There's no evidence that Gin is the only man she is interested in. Neither do you know whether or not she's slept with him. It's just wishful thinking and speculation on your part that she has not had sex with Gin.

e) And you know this because you've seen every single moment of her life? Nah, you don't know whether or not she's tried to get it on with anyone. Given the fact that's she's daily surrounded by a lot of good-looking men and has been so for a century, odds are in favour of her trying to initiate something with them. Then there's the fact that Gin is her oldest friend, and the one she used to trust the most.
Here's a fun fact for you. If a normal woman has had anal sex only, she's still [b]technically
a virgin. I guess that means that she has not had sex at all in her life. Oh wait...

f) Lulz, looks like you missed the point completely.
Also, find me a Shonen Jump manga or a mainstream Shonen manga that depicts sex, and I'll possibly retract this point. [/B]

a) And you're Demonic Phoenix a.k.a. an @$$hole.

b) I just said I made a mistake making her an example but I still have Mai Shiranui as one.

c) Or Ichigo already has his eyes on someone else (Orihime).

d) And you don't think there's speculation on your part as well?

e) If she had sex, why only go anal? I'd like to know how you know this.

f) What, you mean like this? http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v23/c199/8.html

Isn't Mai Shiranui desperately trying to get Andy Bogard to screw her? 😐