The Official BLEACH series Thread

It could be a flesh chunk, but then where exactly IS the hogyoku, if that isn't it? It was in his chest the whole time.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I knew that this is what everyone was talking about, but that's not it, to me.

http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/41423749/21

That can't be it as Aizen will still win.

To me, it looks just like a portion of his flesh chunks...like everything else.

And, I just KNOW that Aizen is about to WTF PWN crap, again. I just KNOW IT!

O rly?

Looks exactly the same as the orb in the scan of Aizen getting fubar'd, and is even in the same position.

okay wow, I knew from the way Gin was acting that he was up to something and was going to betray Aizen, but that was ridiculous on how he went about hitting Aizen. his bankai is somewhat broken in certain situations if you think about it.

now as for the wound Aizen got, it could've struck the hogyoku, judging by how big the hole was as the hogyoku is right below his chest.

I dun think Gin broke the Hogyoku, but from the way he's reaching, looks like he's going to take it.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
O rly?

Looks exactly the same as the orb in the scan of Aizen getting fubar'd, and is even in the same position.

I dunno...it looks to be off -center and if Kubo really wanted to make it obvious, don't you think he would have had it suspended a tad bit higher on Aizen's body?

However, all of you are probably right. I'm more or less playing devil's advocate because I think some of the art can be done, better, at times.

Also, I re-read about 15 chapters around the time Aizen goes up against Renji and Ichigo. Dude, Kuchiki is super fast as he took Rukia from Aizen and Aizen didn't have time to react. Imma hafta say that Kuchiki is supposed to be super super fast.

^ Of course. When Byakuya's source of luvly WINCEST is in danger, he must do everything in his powah to save said source of luvly WINCEST.

Originally posted by Stealth
As Aizen wishes for ascendence so yearnfully, it's sorta ironic that Gin's bankai was given the name Kamishini no Yari, The Godkilling Spear.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If Gin does manage to off Aizen, it will coincide with his weapon's name, AND the title of the chapters.

Kubo foreshadowing much?

Byakuya has always been impressive in terms od Flash-Steps, compared to some other Captains.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
^ Of course. When Byakuya's source of luvly WINCEST is in danger, he must do everything in his powah to save said source of luvly WINCEST.

Indeed. That's definitely WINCEST. ✅

However, they are not blood related, though...they are technically inlaws. 🙂

Originally posted by NemeBro
Byakuya has always been impressive in terms od Flash-Steps, compared to some other Captains.

I agree, I just forgot how awesome he was supposed to be.

But that brings into perspective a couple of other things: Ichigo's speed was DEFINITELY retconned. He went from being faster than SeasShell head (by far) in his Bankai form, to being slower than whomever his opponent is at any given moment. 😬

I REALLY wish Kubo would stop doing that to Ichigo.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. That's definitely WINCEST. ✅

However, they are not blood related, though...they are technically inlaws. 🙂

I agree, I just forgot how awesome he was supposed to be.

But that brings into perspective a couple of other things: Ichigo's speed was DEFINITELY retconned. He went from being faster than SeasShell head (by far) in his Bankai form, to being slower than whomever his opponent is at any given moment. 😬

I REALLY wish Kubo would stop doing that to Ichigo.

Under certain 'definitions' of Incest, they would not have to be blood-related to have Incest/WINcest.

His speed did drop in his fight with Byakuya iirc. Meh, I agree though, he has seemed much slower after his fight against Byakuya.

His speed wasn't lowered against Gin though as Gin's just that Awesome. 313

Maybe his speed was higher due to the "didn't know what he was doing and overdid it to the point he was hurting himself." Bones creeking and all that that was mentioned.

Post-that he can manage a consistent high speed but no longer goes into the 'hurt himself' range.

Maybe Aizen's finger absorbed some of his speed or something Flash style?

Originally posted by Q99
Maybe his speed was higher due to the "didn't know what he was doing and overdid it to the point he was hurting himself." Bones creeking and all that that was mentioned.

Post-that he can manage a consistent high speed but no longer goes into the 'hurt himself' range.

Where was that bones creaking thing mentioned again? This scan was the only one I could find that mentioned Ichigo's bones: http://manga.animea.net/bleach-chapter-166-page-6.html
& it's Byakuya's bankai's spiritual pressure that makes his bones creak.

IMO, I think it's because he now draws more power from Shirosaki, and less from Zangetsu, than he did when he fought Byakuya.

Alternatively, Kubo just ret-conned his speed level?

Kubo either retconned it and made Ichigo just overall weaker or all the Captains just got stronger, I am more inclined to believe the latter personally. Byakuya and Kenpachi in particular became moar stronga.

As for the bones cracking from reiatsu thing, I found this scan:http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-166-page-5.html

I'm not sure if its right or not but its something I guess. Wouldn't drawing power from his inner hollow allow him to move faster or something?

Or maybe its his fear of his hollow that's making him slower while using Tensa Zangetsu since, during his training for the Final Getsuga, his inner world shrunk into a small neighborhood instead of a giant metropolis. The two(Zangetsu and Shirosaki) are connected so that could be something right?

Even if the captains got stronger, their power couldn't have spiked that high up could it?

Yes. 😐

Kenpachi lost to an amped Shikai Ichigo, and now he can cut off the Cero Espada's leg with his eyepatch on, and when he got serious stomped the 5th Espada.

Byakuya was able to handle the speed of the apparently fastest Espada pretty easily.

I can understand Byakuya winning in the speed contest. I actually don't care for that matter much at all.

Kenpachi cutting up Yammy in his ressureccion form out-right confuses me. Renji, Chad and Rukia get stomped by him and Byakuya has to use bankai but Kenpachi somehow can cut throught him like butter with his eye-patch on. How in the hell did Kenpachi's power increase from fighting Nnoitra to fighting Yammy?

Spoiler:
power levels aren't internally consistent

lol

I forgot how shitty the Bleach art used to be.

Bleach art is still not that great IMO.

In particular, I hate the way Kubo draws feet.

😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes. 😐

Kenpachi lost to an amped Shikai Ichigo, and now he can cut off the Cero Espada's leg with his eyepatch on, and when he got serious stomped the 5th Espada.

Byakuya was able to handle the speed of the apparently fastest Espada pretty easily.

Well, there are explanations on that such as:

Ichigo was still very very weak from his fight with Grimmjow. (He was.)

Nnoitra was apparantly, slow...but his Hierro was harder than any other Espada's, which made it difficult for anyone to cut him except the very strongest. (AKA, Kenpachi is DAMN strong. 🙂 )

Also, Kuchiki did not seem stronger at all. In fact, he seemed weaker against #9. I thought for sure that he was just going to go bankai, squish the b*tch, and be done with it. But it didn't happen. Instead, the fight was "drug" out for far longer than needed...and THEN he squished him.

And Kenpachi almost died against the 5th Espada, btw. He decided to use a Kendo technique that Yamamoto taught him...something he considered below his pride to use.