Originally posted by Nephthys
EDIT: http://www.toplessrobot.com/anime/index.php?page=12Well it's being a dick and not letting me link directly to it, so you guys'll have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page to get the article I wanted to share. Though really.....effort. Don't blame you if you don't bother. 😬
Lol Nick Simmons
Bleach sucks anyway
It was alright. It certainly revealed what we assumed:
Ichigo is a Human Shinigami hybrid. Wasn't that NOT revealed to us, though? Meaning, we never found out what Aizen meant by his cryptic words to Ichigo.
Also, chapter was ALMOST as good as I wanted it to be. They just needed to reveal how they would restore his powers. That's it.
I gotta agree with you Demonic Phoenix. If Ichigo is somehow able to learn something like that then he really will be become quite the terror in Bleach. even more so if he gets the same level of power he had after training for the FGT.
hmmm, it is starting to seem a bit like Kingdom Hearts, but it's good to know that the story is improving, bit by bit.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It was alright. It certainly revealed what we assumed:Ichigo is a Human Shinigami hybrid. Wasn't that NOT revealed to us, though? Meaning, we never found out what Aizen meant by his cryptic words to Ichigo.
Also, chapter was ALMOST as good as I wanted it to be. They just needed to reveal how they would restore his powers. That's it.
Didn't I more or less clear that up? The most logical choice would be that Ichigo was a Human-Shinigami hybrid. When Aizen stated it, Shinigami was what he said before Isshin appeared, but Ichigo only heard the 'human' part before Isshin appeared. Isshin's appearance revealed the second part to Ichigo.
While we now know that there likely have been other Human Shinigami hybrids with significant power levels, at that time, Ichigo was the only one.
Yeah, Kubo loves to stretch shit out. I wouldn't be surprised if Ichigo gains his powers a month from now. (4 chapters)
Originally posted by danteiscool
I gotta agree with you Demonic Phoenix. If Ichigo is somehow able to learn something like that then he really will be become quite the terror in Bleach. even more so if he gets the same level of power he had after training for the FGT.hmmm, it is starting to seem a bit like Kingdom Hearts, but it's good to know that the story is improving, bit by bit.
Yeah, but on the flip-side, Kubo will obviously introduce an antagonist that can overpower Ichigo initially. Then Ichigo will gain yet another powerup.
Of course, this will mean that most captain level shinigami will be Lieutenant level when compared to Ichigo and said hypothetical antagonist.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Didn't I more or less clear that up? The most logical choice would be that Ichigo was a Human-Shinigami hybrid. When Aizen stated it, Shinigami was what he said before Isshin appeared, but Ichigo only heard the 'human' part before Isshin appeared. Isshin's appearance revealed the second part to Ichigo.While we now know that there likely have been other Human Shinigami hybrids with significant power levels, at that time, Ichigo was the only one.
Yeah, Kubo loves to stretch shit out. I wouldn't be surprised if Ichigo gains his powers a month from now. (4 chapters)
Sort of.
I'll have to reread it but I could have sworn we didn't know the "human" part, we only knew the Shinigami part and some of us were speculating that because of that, his mother might have been hollow, human, or a third kind (like "hell" people or something).
And, no, it says specifically that Ichigo was the first Shinigami-Human hybrid. He is the first. None came before.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, but on the flip-side, Kubo will obviously introduce an antagonist that can overpower Ichigo initially. Then Ichigo will gain yet another powerup.
Of course, this will mean that most captain level shinigami will be Lieutenant level when compared to Ichigo and said hypothetical antagonist.
The antagonist, right now, is "Man-verss himself." Ichigo's antagonist is his lack of ability to fight for the people he loves. It's his helplessness that is the antagonist. People should give Kubo more credit.
As far as introducing a NEW antagonist after his powers come back...why?
Do we really need one? Additionally, would it be Urahara? What if it's the King? What if Aizen was both a power-monger AND an indirect savior? What if the King is actually bad or something? I want one of us to take over the writing as I'm sure most of us could do a better job, at this point.
Maybe I'll stop reading Bleach for 6 months, read all of the chapters, and get enjoyment out of a much "faster" paced story...cause it's all back to back.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Sort of.I'll have to reread it but I could have sworn we didn't know the "human" part, we only knew the Shinigami part and some of us were speculating that because of that, his mother might have been hollow, human, or a third kind (like "hell" people or something).
And, no, it says specifically that Ichigo was the first Shinigami-Human hybrid. He is the first. None came before.
Nah, http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-411-page-2.html
We definitely know that human was mentioned, since that is what Ichigo heard. He missed the 'Shinigami' part.
I still think that Isshin used to be a part of the Royal Guard. He's badass and powerful enough IMO.
Again, nah. http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-447-page-14.html
Soul Society & Shinigamis have existed for far longer than 2000 years. I find it hard to believe that no Human-Shinigami hybrids have existed until 17 years ago in the storyline. I find it even harder to believe that there have been many Human-Shinigami hybrids born after Ichigo was born, which allowed a number of Fullbringers to lose their abilities, which would be the case had Ichigo been the first Human-Shinigami hybrid.
Originally posted by dadudemon
As far as introducing a NEW antagonist after his powers come back...why?Do we really need one? Additionally, would it be Urahara? What if it's the King? What if Aizen was both a power-monger AND an indirect savior? What if the King is actually bad or something? I want one of us to take over the writing as I'm sure most of us could do a better job, at this point.
Maybe I'll stop reading Bleach for 6 months, read all of the chapters, and get enjoyment out of a much "faster" paced story...cause it's all back to back.
Well, if it's Aizen again...
As for the King, we haven't exactly been introduced to him/it. All we know is that he/it just exists, and that he/it is essential to the existence of Soul Society. We don't even know whether it is a Shinigami, or some sort of higher dimensional being.
As for the King being the main antagonist after Aizen, I found myself wanting that to happen. Sometime during the Hueco Mundo arc I think. Meh. It certainly would be cool if the King were the next main antagonist. Something akin to the Elder God in the LoK verse.
Even if Aizen replaced the King, I'm pretty sure he'd be something of a tyrant.
Additionally, I doubt if we'll have Shirosaki as an antagonist anymore. Ichigo has lost his Hollow Powers, and we don't know whether the process the Fullbringers use, will restore his Hollow Powers.
Of course, Shirosaki has been an integral part of Ichigo ever since the first time he regained his powers. He also merged with Tensa Zangetsu, so if Zangetsu returns, Shirosaki might as well.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah, http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-411-page-2.html
We definitely know that human was mentioned, since that is what Ichigo heard. He missed the 'Shinigami' part.
I still think that Isshin used to be a part of the Royal Guard. He's badass and powerful enough IMO.Again, nah. http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-447-page-14.html
Soul Society & Shinigamis have existed for far longer than 2000 years. I find it hard to believe that no Human-Shinigami hybrids have existed until 17 years ago in the storyline. I find it even harder to believe that there have been many Human-Shinigami hybrids born after Ichigo was born, which allowed a number of Fullbringers to lose their abilities, which would be the case had Ichigo been the first Human-Shinigami hybrid.
On the first part, yeah, I see now that it was obvious. So why were Bleach f*gs speculating about that (other places, not here.)
Anyway, yeah, I think he's a defected royal guard shinigami, too. He's far more powerful than any Shinigami except POSSIBLY the captain commander. He flicked Aizen and Aizen flew like a punk b*tch, so he's probably the strongest Shinigami, IMO. (I don't think Yamamoto is that strong.)
On the second part, that's my bad. I misread it. I thought it said 'you ARE the first."
But, putting the rest of the chapter in context with the fact that he said "you AREN'T the first" makes much more sense. So, my bad, you sexy beast, you. flirt
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Well, if it's Aizen again...As for the King, we haven't exactly been introduced to him/it. All we know is that he/it just exists, and that he/it is essential to the existence of Soul Society. We don't even know whether it is a Shinigami, or some sort of higher dimensional being.
As for the King being the main antagonist after Aizen, I found myself wanting that to happen. Sometime during the Hueco Mundo arc I think. Meh. It certainly would be cool if the King were the next main antagonist. Something akin to the Elder God in the LoK verse.Even if Aizen replaced the King, I'm pretty sure he'd be something of a tyrant.
Additionally, I doubt if we'll have Shirosaki as an antagonist anymore. Ichigo has lost his Hollow Powers, and we don't know whether the process the Fullbringers use, will restore his Hollow Powers.
Of course, Shirosaki has been an integral part of Ichigo ever since the first time he regained his powers. He also merged with Tensa Zangetsu, so if Zangetsu returns, Shirosaki might as well.
I do hope we got old man Zang. I liked that guy, better.
Edit - Also, I'd like to point out that Ichigo WILL get his hollow powers back. Those people turning over their powers to Ichigo will accommplish that. Ichigo's Shinigami powers will come back..I guess on their own. This is on top of the hollow powers that that group will give Ichigo.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-447-page-17.html