The Official BLEACH series Thread

Started by Thoren524 pages

Don't you remember, that their abilities center around manipulating the souls of inanimate objects?

So all Tsukishima did was manipulate the area Byakuya stepped in, by touching it with his sword, and placing a bomb there.

Originally posted by Thoren
Don't you remember, that their abilities center around manipulating the souls of inanimate objects?

So all Tsukishima did was manipulate the area Byakuya stepped in, by touching it with his sword, and placing a bomb there.

That is how they access their fullbrings. Their fullbrings themselves have rather random effects. Super strength would not really involve that much soul manipulation.

If Tsukishima could place bombs in anything he cuts, this fight would be over. He says he is changing the past by slipping his presence into it. At first, yes, this would appear to be memories. But that doesn't explain how he did this. Okay, if we believe that the place itself has memories, that still doesn't explain how the area actually changed itself to have a trap. If it changed instictively to protect Tsukishima, the whole area would be trying to kill Byakuya. Or at least the ground. But that one segment turned into a trap and Tsukishima implies that, yes, he did set it up. Before it went off. So he knew the trap was there.

I'm so confused by his freaking power. But again, Bleach. It doesn't make sense anyway.

Whatever he cuts once, he associates himself with. That's about how I can put it. He said something about splitting the target's past.

Though Kubo may have just confused himself with this ability.

Or....forgot something, wouldn't be the first time Kubo's done that.

Hey, I have a theory at to why these remaining fights aren't completely one-sided. Maybe the Kuchiki siblings figured out that Kubo won't kill them and decided to just chill. I mean Rukia just might enjoy being a dog plush and Byakuya's doesn't feel like putting the effort into it

Ikkaku of course was just being Ikkaku. So what do you think?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
If he is changing memories only, how the hell did he set up that trap?

Remember, they can manipulate matter around them through manipulating souls. Remember drinking the alchohol with what looked like TK?

Their Fullbrings are the epitome of their ability to manipulate the souls of the shitoist world Tite Kubo created in the "real world" of Bleach. It would be the "holiest of holy" souls for that Particular Fullbringer, but it is no different than manipulating the souls of everything around them...just much more powerful.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And how the hell did he learn about the NDR?

It's rather simple if you know his abilities are cutting memories: either placing memories or pulling memories with cuts.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
He's changing the past.

See the following post for an response to what you said above:

Originally posted by dadudemon
By changing the past, he's changing memories.

If the information on neurons changes, that means memories have changed.

He's directly changing memories.

Keep in mind that he does not actually change the past, at all. If he did, then it would change for everyone, all at once. It's individual so he's changing the memories.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Or rather, the individuals past. Does it make sense? Hell no it doesn't.

I disagree. Because if he actually changed the past, even for that individual, it would change for everyone because everyone that is present and interwoven into their memories, also exists in the present. Even if you consider the multi-verse perspective, meaning, Tsukishima can change that particular person's past by creating an entirely new multiverse and supplanting that individual into the new universe within the multiverse (real physics theories that are based around consciousness being able to transcend our perceptions of dimensional limitations), he's still going to affect all those around that particular individual. I highly doubt Tite Kubo even has a remote idea of the philosphy and physics I am referring to, much less understands them, so it is highly unlikely that that is what Kubo is trying to do.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
But that is what he is claiming.

To be noted, he never claimed what you are claiming.

"Inserting yourself into someone's past" != "Altering someone's literal past through temporal manipulation"

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Granted, the probability of him lying is certainly not 0 but until we found out if he is or not, we assume what the manga has said.

And what the manga said clearly points to only memory manipulation, not Time and Space manipulation. There's too many problems with your interpretation and 0 problems with mine.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Get that logic shit out of here. This is ****ing Bleach!

Troof.

Actually, I did probably take this particular line of reasoning too far.

I should have left it at: "Well, that's your interpretation and I see flaws. I see no flaws with mine."

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
If Tsukishima could place bombs in anything he cuts, this fight would be over. He says he is changing the past by slipping his presence into it. At first, yes, this would appear to be memories. But that doesn't explain how he did this. Okay, if we believe that the place itself has memories, that still doesn't explain how the area actually changed itself to have a trap. If it changed instictively to protect Tsukishima, the whole area would be trying to kill Byakuya. Or at least the ground. But that one segment turned into a trap and Tsukishima implies that, yes, he did set it up. Before it went off. So he knew the trap was there.

I'm so confused by his freaking power. But again, Bleach. It doesn't make sense anyway.

See the two following posts for a response to what you said above:

Originally posted by dadudemon
With non-living things, since they still have souls, he's still changing their memories, as well. Keep in mind, this is "shintoism" so everything has a soul...which means they store information. Stored information in something that has an existance is literally, a memory.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember, they can manipulate matter around them through manipulating souls. Remember drinking the alchohol with what looked like TK?

Their Fullbrings are the epitome of their ability to manipulate the souls of the shitoist world Tite Kubo created in the "real world" of Bleach. It would be the "holiest of holy" souls for that Particular Fullbringer, but it is no different than manipulating the souls of everything around them...just much more powerful.

Where's chapter 470? Today's Wednsday and that's usually the day Manga-Access gets a new chapter.

Not out yet. Going to be tomorrow when Mangastream, which is where I read it, gets it. Mangareader *might* get it later on today. Dunno though. I think Jump is just a little late this week.

You'll know when it's here. We'll complain about how Byakuya won his fight or the crappy development bunny girl is getting.

the chapter is posted now on Mangareader. sadly, we didn't see how Byakuya's fight continued, instead we got two others that are shaping up to be more than one-sideded pwnage so far.

I gotta say, Ginjo is easily the toughest of the fullbringers so far.

Goddamn Ichigo is dumb.

The first part of this chapter was lulzy though.

I can't say I blame Ichigo though. I mean what was he supposed to do?

Though I like the first part of the chapter better. Gosh Rukia is cute in her plush form.

Too bad she can't really fight.

Props for getting her monolouging though. Least gives Rukia time to plan an attack.

I think that Rukia will convert us a Maid outfit wearing fullbringer to the "good guys" side of things.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Though I like the first part of the chapter better. Gosh Rukia is cute in her plush form.

I thought the same thing. 😄

I was like, "awwwww. How cute...Kido from a bunny."

Rukia doesn't look cute at all.

The other chick's worth a pump and a squirt though; as wierd scottish people say.

Anyway, good chapter. Was better than Naruto by a bit. I'm enjoying where this is going, although I'm not at all looking forward to whatever retarded asspull plot device Rukia is going to use to win.

I couldn't help but laugh at the epic fail Rukia just did. I had a feeling she could still use kido while in that plush form but I didn't suspect it was gonna blow up from the inside. God the look on Riruka's face was priceless when that happened 😂

I'm a bit disappointed the fight between Tsukishima and Byakuya was barely seen in this chapter. I want to see how it'll end.

Fridge Horror: Bunny girl will be telling the story of how they all met and formed this crew. Tsukishima can **** with memories, the past, whatever. Will the story she be telling even be true? Scary.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Fridge Horror: Bunny girl will be telling the story of how they all met and formed this crew. Tsukishima can **** with memories, the past, whatever. Will the story she be telling even be true? Scary.

Well I assume that like everyone else in Xcution, she was cut by Tsukishima a second time and was given back her real memories. If she does start telling a story about how her group was formed, I don't think there'll be any lies and even if she was somehow still under Tsukishima's influence (which I doubt), why would he bother altering her memories of how they all met?

So I wonder how the fight between Riruka and Rukia will end. Will Riruka actually tell a story about how she met the other Fullbringers and have a change of heart after Rukia shares some dialouge or will Rukia just keep using shunpo to evade Riruka's attacks some more until the chat room is down?

That chapter blew ass.

Originally posted by Thoren
That chapter blew ass.

Surely you don't mean the whole chapter. First half of it was good but I can't say the same for the second for it was doing nothing but stating the obvious of what Ginjo has. I wanted to see more of Byakuya vs. Tsukishima.

Uryu has a New Bow!!!!!
The Rukia bit was priceless