The Official BLEACH series Thread

Well whatever you want to call him, he now took out the entirety of Yhwach's elite guards.

Also, since when is 200mg of caffeine lethal?

I used to take a sports supplement that had 300mg of caffeine in it. 😐

Bleach characters have lower vitality than the average human 😛

But this was another case of "Durr..let me explain how my power works so you can counter it". Kubo likes doing that I guess.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Also, since when is 200mg of caffeine lethal?

Figures this would be Astner's new favorite chapter.

In a stunning twist, telling your opponent how your power works is a really shitty idea.

To be fair though, if it wasn't for the blood transfusion water Ōetsu would've died.

To be fair, Oetsu would have died if Askin kept his mouth shut.

Is... is Kubo really trying to sell the idea that blood-loss from a hole in the neck is a potentially lethal injury for Shinigami?

In a series where people have survived getting bisected, shredded by thousands of tiny blades and fully impaled?

Why are you surprised by Bleach not making any sense?

Good point.

Originally posted by Astner
The Median Lethal Dose is the lethal dose per kilogram, as was explained.

That's not anywhere on this page:

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/602

Nor is it anywhere on this page:

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/602/10

Median Lethal Dose was not mentioned or even hinted at in this entire chapter (unless you had memorized rounded numbers for median lethal doses and even those numbers were not accurate). Nor was he mechanism for toxin delivery.

For instance, 25mg per kg is presumed to be the median lethal dose for tetrodotoxin. This is common knowledge for people who like blowfish sashimi. So why does the page list .01mg? Probably a rounding of the intravenous injection version of it, which makes little sense because this manga is from Japan and tetrodotoxin is a toxin chefs worry about when preparing blowfish sashimi.

Then there is aconitine: .1mg for intravenous injection. So why is caffeine sitting out there at 200mg for oral toxicity when, intravenously, it would be significantly lower?

Simple, and my point, which is correct, 200mg is not lethal when taken orally. It is lethal if it is 200mg per kg...which is missing from the page. 😉

Basically, Median Lethal Dose can only be assumed if you start looking up those numbers to see what context they are in and even that is not perfect because he (Tite Kubo) mixes up oral and intravenous).

Edit - Perhaps this was better explained in a different translation? Meaning, the lack of "per body mass" reference is missing in the mangapanda version?

Mangastream.

There's also the fact that he estimates Ōetsu's weight and does the multiplication for the Lethal Dose for blood which he bases of the Median Lethal Dose—or "Half Lethal Dose" in your translation—before changing it for Ōetsu.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
To be fair, Oetsu would have died if Askin kept his mouth shut.

Indeed.

"Thanks for doing nothing but talk and let me know how your powers work, you stupid ****!"

Why is this is a thing in Anime/Manga? Even with all the fancy mathematical bullshit written, it's still the work of a bloody five year old.

Originally posted by Astner
Mangastream.

That's helpful, thanks. Does Mangastream put up their translations fairly quickly or am I doomed to read subpar translations unless I practice patience?

Originally posted by Astner
There's also the fact that he estimates Ōetsu's weight and does the multiplication for the Lethal Dose for blood which he bases of the Median Lethal Dose—or "Half Lethal Dose" in your translation—before changing it for Ōetsu.

Estimating his mass does not indicate, at all, that this is a lethal dosing based on "per kg" measure of his mass. It just helps him estimate how much blood volume he has to make his point about how much blood he would have to lose to drop himself below the lethal dose. It was to use very simple math to indicate that he would lose consciousness before he would lose enough blood to drop himself below the lethal dosing limit.

For an example of what he was doing, go here:

http://reference.medscape.com/calculator/estimated-blood-volume

Do you have to turn everything into a debate?

shit man, i really like Oetsu. 🙁

Not sure if Bleach or Naruto is worse

Bleach.

And at least Naruto is ending in a few weeks.

Originally posted by Astner
Do you have to turn everything into a debate?

B-but...you're the one that started it was obvious when it wasn't in my shitty translation. You just had access to a better translation.

Am I supposed to tell mom at this point?