Robocop vs Two Fully Equipped Elder Predators.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
All you know of is the two stupid ass movie predators.

How about the predators who take on the USMC who's weapons make robocop's look like little pea shooters?

Don't you remember Robocop's sniper rifle from the first movie? The cobra sniper rifle? Do some more research into your guy.

Speargun rounds travel fast enough to rip limbs from people without moving the body. Sort of like whipping the cover off of a table without disturbing the things set on the table. They are strong enough to rip alien's limbs from their bodies. Aliens are pretty much immune to all conventional weaponry, even the USMC standard issue carbines (Which shoot uranium depleted shells) have shown to ricochet off their carapace.

Predators' shoudler cannons track my friend, the plasma can be fired with enough charge to blow up lightly armored vehicles. The disc will follow Robo wherever he goes and saw his ass in half.

Hell, armor a pred and he'll just shrug off everything robo can fire at him, he'll impale him on his combi and keep his shiney dome for a trophy.

First, who the hell is the USMC? And if they make Robocops weapons look like pea shooters they must be horrible opponents for the Preds.

Second the gun Robocop used in the first movie was not your typical sniper rifle. It was more cannon like. Sniper Rifle may have been in teh name, but nothing about that gun said sniper rifle. Maybe the long barrel.

You say that speargun rounds travel fast enough to rip limbs from people without moving the body? Who humans? Has a Pred shot someone with Robocop type armor? You bring up Aliens being immune to all conventional type weaponry, but if my memory recalls correctly, Aliens were killed by 44. caliber handguns in 2 movies.

Im going by movies because i havent read any of the books. Therefore from watching 3 movies, i can easily say that the shoulder cannnos dont track. We could go back and forth all day about them doing it or not. More people watch the movies than read the books my friend. If you wanna get technical, elder Preds dont even carry plasma weapons. Mainly a spear, wristblade and knife if that.

Shrug off everything Robo can fire at him? Now i see you highly overrate the Pred. You win.

USMC is United States Marine Corpse. I think Nataku meant USCM which I think means Universal States Colonial Marines (I could be really off here, I just can't recall right now.) And yes there weapons make Robo's weapons look like pea shooters. Go watch Alien, Those marines belong to the USCM.

If he used it like sniper rifle it was probably a sniper rifle.

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH. A .44 magnum has enough power to stop a car. Of course it effected the aliens who's skin is the strength of steel.

Even if they don't track, name one incident where the pred locked on and missed.

How do you know what elder preds carry if you just admitted you haven't read any of the books?

The thread says they are fully equipped, but even if all they had was a spear, then that would be more than enough to rip Robo to shreds.

lets remember Robo has his rocket arm and jet back (in robocop 3). He could be up flying with the birds firing locked on missiles at them.... whats a pred gonner do? he moves too quick for them too get a lock on, and I doubt they will hit him up there with there spear gun....

Chances are they've encountered other flying prey.

Either way they could just hide and wait for him to descend.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
lets remember Robo has his rocket arm and jet back (in robocop 3). He could be up flying with the birds firing locked on missiles at them.... whats a pred gonner do? he moves too quick for them too get a lock on, and I doubt they will hit him up there with there spear gun....

He's not as fast as a runner breed alien.

And yes, mercilous was right, I meant USCM. Typo on my part.

Jrod, you just admitted to knowing nothing of elder predators, so why are you bothering to argue? Why don't you do some research into Robocop's weaponry, that was the cobra sniper rifle. Pick some comics with Predators in them, pick up the books, the movie preds were pansies compared to the hardcore comic preds. Hell, even that badass unblooded from AvP was nothing to guys like Scarface from Concrete Jungle (The game, not the book)

Shoulder cannons do track. Its in the games, its in the movies, its in the books, its in the comics.

What evidence do you have those handguns were .44s ? Do you know what the standard issue USCM pistol is ? It's the M4-A3 pistol that fires 9mm rounds which are of almost no use against aliens. Seeing as how this is a COMIC forum, that's what you should be going by. Many times the marines open fire on aliens with their pistols in the begining of a story only to say "Oh shit, this isn't working, run!" or something along those lines.

You say robocop type armor, well last time I watched robocop, a barrage of modern day rounds kicked his ass. Speargun rounds are best described by comparing a crossbow to thrown rocks. A speargun will do tremendous damage to Robocop, and will most likely throw him off his feet.

Not to mention a fully charged plasmacaster shot will just blow him up, barring that, it'll seriously injur him.

Look what the samurai robo did to him in Robocop three.

I haven't even considered if we're talking fully equiped as in war equipment, because predators have heavy plasmacasters that can destroy tanks from around 3 miles away. Yea. Exactly.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
USMC is United States Marine Corpse. I think Nataku meant USCM which I think means Universal States Colonial Marines (I could be really off here, I just can't recall right now.) And yes there weapons make Robo's weapons look like pea shooters. Go watch Alien, Those marines belong to the USCM.

Where and when does Predators go up against the USCM? The PC game in which Predators get ripped in half?

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
If he used it like sniper rifle it was probably a sniper rifle.

Youve seen Robocop 1 Mercilous. It wasnt a sniper rifle. Nataku was wrong. It was called a "Cobra Assault Cannon". NOT sniper rifle. Nataku you need to watch the movie over my friend.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
HAHHAHAHAHAHAH. A .44 magnum has enough power to stop a car. Of course it effected the aliens who's skin is the strength of steel.

Sorry. I meant 45 automatic handgun. It was either that or 9mm. Not magnum. My mistake. And that was killing aliens in Aliens(sequel) Not a magnum.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Even if they don't track, name one incident where the pred locked on and missed.

Predator 2, when he shot a Busey. I know everyone I say the movie with thought he was dead. The pred had a clean shot too. Next thing you know, 5 min later here comes Busey from behind the meat with the freeze gun. Go figure.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
How do you know what elder preds carry if you just admitted you haven't read any of the books?

I asked my friend who does.

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
The thread says they are fully equipped, but even if all they had was a spear, then that would be more than enough to rip Robo to shreds.

A spear wouldnt rip RTobo to shreds. You cant be serious. The spears are for stabbing, and used for longpole. Not shredding.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Jrod, you just admitted to knowing nothing of elder predators, so why are you bothering to argue?

I asked a friend about the weapons they carried and he said that they dont carry energy weapons.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Why don't you do some research into Robocop's weaponry, that was the cobra sniper rifle.

Looks like you need to do the research again my friend. It was a Cobra Assault Cannon. Not cobra sniper rifle.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Shoulder cannons do track. Its in the games, its in the movies, its in the books, its in the comics.

Maybe the books and games, but surely not the movies. Arnold dodged the shoulder cannon's multiple shots. He even got hit once and didnt even bleed hardly. Gary Busey seemed to have dodged it in Predator 2. In AVP the movie, the aliens werent even moving. They were just stuck to the walls looking dumb. Nice try. And even in the game Shoulder cannon doesnt even kill with one hit unless its fully charged.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Do you know what the standard issue USCM pistol is ? It's the M4-A3 pistol that fires 9mm rounds which are of almost no use against aliens.

Watch the movie Aliens again. And Alien Ressurection.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
You say robocop type armor, well last time I watched robocop, a barrage of modern day rounds kicked his ass.

When was this? Robocop 1 against ED-209? Cannons he was armed with. After the fight with ED, the police weapons did nothing. Robo was damaged by Ed-209. Robocop 2 against Cain's chain gun? Nothing. The only thing that dented his armor was the cannon equiped on Cains shoulder. Robo was shot at from many groups and had no effects from them. Predator gets shot a few times with a shot gun and goes down. Hes not surviving the "BEHAVE YOURSELVES!" cannon used in Robocop 2 nor the Cobra Assault CANNON from Robocop 1.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Not to mention a fully charged plasmacaster shot will just blow him up, barring that, it'll seriously injur him.

You only assume that a fully charged plasma cannon would blow him up. One shot from the Cobra is guaranteed to blow the Pred to chunks.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Look what the samurai robo did to him in Robocop three.

Movie was horrible. I only watch the first 15 min of it lol.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
I haven't even considered if we're talking fully equiped as in war equipment, because predators have heavy plasmacasters that can destroy tanks from around 3 miles away. Yea. Exactly.

Can you prove this? Plus what is the tanks armor made from if you can prove this? Thank you. 🙂

Cobra 'cannon' is an actual sniper rifle, and thus I wrongly assumed it to be the actual sniper rifle.

Fully equiped elder preds will have all of their hunting gear, which includes all of the basic hunting gear. Just because they choose not to use it, doesn't mean they don't have it.

In the games the shoulder cannon doesnt kill USCM in one shot because then the game would be far too easy. It also doesn't burn through people, which is what it does in almost every other showing. It could also be argued that its because the cannon is being fired on a very low setting, which in Predator 1 (And I think in 2) only burned the victim. The predator's equipment wasn't even fully developed (As far as concepts go) until after Predator 2, shortly thereafter the basic gear and such were determined. Predator 1 only had the shoulder cannon and the wristblades. It is now considered normal for a predator to be equipped with;

Shoulder cannon
Wristblades
Smart disc
Spear/glaive/combi-stick
Netgun
Speargun (Or one of the variations)

Hell, in predator 2 the pred fired a wrist mounted missle or plasma weapon, the likes of which no other predator has shown to use. The spears (Both speargun and handheld) will tear through robocop's armor, no doubts. The wristblades have gone through 10cm steel doors, Robocop would get trashed. Just because YOU don't like robocop 3 doesn't mean it's not canon. It's much like the Predator in Predator 1 you are using for example. If I can't use things from Robocop 3 as evidence, you can't use things from Predator 1/2 or AVP. Because I didn't like those very much.

Like I said, pick up the comics.

The shoulder mounted plasma rocket launcher thing-a-ma-jig was in one of the comics. I don't remember which offhand, but I'll get that info ASAP.

Well in the game i dont see why the shoulder cannon wouldnt kill with one hit. Fully charged it does. Preds already have many one hit kill weapons in the game speargun(headshot), disk, pistol, bomb, spear(head kill). Everyone does.

In Pred 1, the shoulder cannon blew Macks brains out. As well as blow Dillan's arm clean off. Although it did burn a hole right through the "Body" Ventura.
AVP it busted the aliens to chuncks lol. Im not saying that it wouldnt do damage to Robo, but its surely not blowing him to pieces. I dont even know if it would go straight through him. Limbs i have no doubts would be gone due to certain joints. A Predator is no where as durable as Robo, thats why i say if Robo connects with a shot from one of the cannons(Robocop 1 or 2) its all over for them. And all it really takes is one shot.

I just wanna know has a Pred ever shot at anything with armor like Robo before? And what was the damage done?

The preds beast weapon really would be its stealth. But that not a factor here.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
The shoulder mounted plasma rocket launcher thing-a-ma-jig was in one of the comics. I don't remember which offhand, but I'll get that info ASAP.

Thanks. 🙂

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well in the game i dont see why the shoulder cannon wouldnt kill with one hit. Fully charged it does. Preds already have many one hit kill weapons in the game speargun(headshot), disk, pistol, bomb, spear(head kill). Everyone does.

In Pred 1, the shoulder cannon blew Macks brains out. As well as blow Dillan's arm clean off. Although it did burn a hole right through the "Body" Ventura.
AVP it busted the aliens to chuncks lol. Im not saying that it wouldnt do damage to Robo, but its surely not blowing him to pieces. I dont even know if it would go straight through him. Limbs i have no doubts would be gone due to certain joints. A Predator is no where as durable as Robo, thats why i say if Robo connects with a shot from one of the cannons(Robocop 1 or 2) its all over for them. And all it really takes is one shot.

I just wanna know has a Pred ever shot at anything with armor like Robo before? And what was the damage done?

The preds beast weapon really would be its stealth. But that not a factor here.

I'd put aliens at the same armored level as Robocop.

I would put their range, weapon versatility and skill as their advantage. Robocop can miss, and Predators aren't slow.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
I'd put aliens at the same armored level as Robocop.

I would put their range, weapon versatility and skill as their advantage. Robocop can miss, and Predators aren't slow.

Wow. Are you serious? Robocop and Aliens in the same armor level? 😆 Robocops metal is better than even a Terminators.

True Predators arent slow, and you say Robocop can miss. But have you ever seen him miss? I havent. Besides when his targeting system was off slightly.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Wow. Are you serious? Robocop and Aliens in the same armor level? 😆 Robocops metal is better than even a Terminators.

True Predators arent slow, and you say Robocop can miss. But have you ever seen him miss? I havent. Besides when his targeting system was off slightly.

Yes. I put alien's carapace in that level. Like I said, if you actually read the comics and books, you'd understand that nothing short of Uranium depleted carbine shells at the correct angle will punch holes in them.

He hardest part of the alien which you may be talking aobut is the top of the head. Which they use to ram doors and such and even deflect bullets.

However, the rest of their bodies is just as fragile as a humans. If anything only slightly tougher. A machine gun or chain gun would easily destroy one. Or do you think otherwise?

Originally posted by jrodslam
He hardest part of the alien which you may be talking aobut is the top of the head. Which they use to ram doors and such and even deflect bullets.

However, the rest of their bodies is just as fragile as a humans. If anything only slightly tougher. A machine gun or chain gun would easily destroy one. Or do you think otherwise?

Think otherwise. Their weak points are their joints, and the insides of the mouth. In one book an alien hisses at a marine and he shoots it in the mouth, the bullet ricochets around in it's skull, killing it.

The thing is, their carapce only covers so much of their body, and the head is the biggest area of the carapce. Anywhere a joint is, or where the carapace curves inward is a weak spot for the aliens. A flat surface of their carapce of the same thickness of Robocop's armor would be roughly equivalent in durability.

With all that said. Are you saying an Alien is taking a shot from a shotgun to the chest? Taking rounds from a chain gun or cannon? Please dont insult my intelligence. If you say they can, proof of that would be really nice. Otherwise ill stick to them going down by turrets and 9mm handguns.

Either way, Aliens arent involved in the thread. If you wanna discuss them make another.

Originally posted by jrodslam
With all that said. Are you saying an Alien is taking a shot from a shotgun to the chest? Taking rounds from a chain gun or cannon? Please dont insult my intelligence. If you say they can, proof of that would be really nice. Otherwise ill stick to them going down by turrets and 9mm handguns.

Either way, Aliens arent involved in the thread. If you wanna discuss them make another.

Turrets and 9mm handguns are completely different things. Robocop's metal is thicker and more reinforced than an alien's carapace, save for the skull. I'd put an alien skull up against robocop's chest, for sure.

sounds like a far argument Nataku8188, I would agree that books and comics tend to make all chars better then there game equivalents... What version of robo are you using? most of robos films show him as slow as the actor was slow. I would say that aliens armor is weaker then robos armor. His worst version (in the movies) stands up better then aliens best version (in the books).

Do predators get more armor as they get older? Is a predator young susceptible to the same damage as an elder?

Alien skin is as strong as steel, Pred weaponry goes threw it like Mexicans across our southern border (border patrol joke, not a Mexican joke so cool it.) Pred weaponry has also been shown to slice threw much harder substances though. Like inch thick titanium (which I beleive Robocop is made of) doors and various extra-terrestial alloys. It's pretty much portrayed as the best metal ever, and why wouldn't the best hunters in the known galaxy have it? So there's no reason why it wouldn't go straight threw Robocop with an able (in this case it's even an elder) predator.

Aliens skin isnt as strong as steel. And Hit and Miss. From what my friend told me, Preds carry less as they become Elders. Thats jsut how good they are. Some may carry a shoulder cannon as the only plasma weapon. Others carry mainly spears, swords, blades.

If someone. anyone can show a pred shooting, or slicing through something as think as titanium please post a pic of it. It would be gfreatly appreciated. 😄