I'm so confused!

Originally posted by Ronny
i know im being alittle selfish wanting her back and all, but from what i hear thats normal. I'm glad shes out of all that pain, she has arthritis and that probably made things alot worse I only wish i was there with her when she died. My dad brought me into their room to say goodbye and I couldn't even look at her, now I wish i stayed there a little longer

Originally posted by Ronny
I dont know how to deal with them though, I was only a little kid when it happenedand mentally ive changed little.

A friend just called and i told her all about it, shes taking me out shopping later and were getting petis 😊 I feel so much beter you guys, thank you so much for all your help. And i am so sorry if i came off as an attention whore 🙁 I really idnt mean it, i just needed a little help and someone to talk to

that's ok 😊

thanks for being so helpful all of you 😮

You're welcome, and no, you're not an attention whore. Have fun. 😊

Originally posted by Ronny
A friend just called and i told her all about it, shes taking me out shopping later and were getting petis 😊 I feel so much beter you guys, thank you so much for all your help. And i am so sorry if i came off as an attention whore 🙁 I really idnt mean it, i just needed a little help and someone to talk to

😄 thank you

Not to take anything away from your situation, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone on this planet who hasn't gone through sh*t like that at one point or another in their life. There is no singling-out on either side of the fence.

Originally posted by Ronny
you dont have to if you dont want to its just really bothering me and i needed someone to help me understand

awwww sweetie hug
god doesn't punish, he just doesn't step in, you're not to blame

^Exactly.

*Hugs for Ronny*

I have my beliefs, spiritually that is. God isn't a part of them. However, if he did exist, I'm sure his role wouldn't be to come down and wipe our asses for us everytime there was trouble.

However, the truest phrase is the most common with regards to your mother. The good die young.

I've never quite figured out why certain people I've lost are dead, and certain people I hate are still able to walk around. The reason is, that's life. Life is a shit and life is amazing. I was raised (by great parents) in a reasonably open minded way. Although it still had the whole peaches and cream/everything's ok security blanket thing.

As I've grown older and experienced more shit in the past year than most people probably ever will, I've realised that you need to have death, sorrow and loss to appreciate the life, love and happiness. Some believe that this life is all there is, others believe in Heaven and Hell, I believe in the singular consciousness, that our true nature is spirit not body and that this is merely a stage in our existance.

All religious leaders, books and prophets (before people decided they could manipulate religion) were talking about the same thing. Unconditional love for one and all, truth and freedom. That's a belief that mostly connects us all. Christians, Jews, Muslims etc. Every true and peaceful practitioner of each religion is hitting upon the same message.

Are you selfish for wanting her back? No. Because you're human.

"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human."-Mouse, The Matrix.

Being selfish isn't wrong. It's not wrong to look after and care about yourself in life, that's probably the biggest misconception there is.

So whatever your beliefs, don't look to punish God (To be fair the guy has his hands full with his followers as it is. Have you been to the Religion Forum? 🙂). Your mother may be gone, but she's not "dead". Her body is, and as a result, you cannot see her anymore while your time here is in progress.

I used to fear death and loss beyond all else and while I always had the beliefs in eternal spirit, a certain band and a certain song changed my life. Now I don't fear death at all. It's the one thing we're guaranteed at birth, so it can't be that bad.

As soon as you stop thinking of death as the final sleep, and start thinking of it as the final awakening that it is, I'm sure you'll feel better.

Of course, in the event that me and my philosophical musings don't help. You could always like, shoot some Christians.

-AC

Whoa. 😂

Hahaha, Mills does Keanu Reeves.

Sweet.

-AC

I've never thought of it that way, but okay. 😛

You missed a good argument this afternoon(me being the ref yet again.) Irene vs. Disco Moose.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
^Exactly.

*Hugs for Ronny*

I have my beliefs, spiritually that is. God isn't a part of them. However, if he did exist, I'm sure his role wouldn't be to come down and wipe our asses for us everytime there was trouble.

However, the truest phrase is the most common with regards to your mother. The good die young.

I've never quite figured out why certain people I've lost are dead, and certain people I hate are still able to walk around. The reason is, that's life. Life is a shit and life is amazing. I was raised (by great parents) in a reasonably open minded way. Although it still had the whole peaches and cream/everything's ok security blanket thing.

As I've grown older and experienced more shit in the past year than most people probably ever will, I've realised that you need to have death, sorrow and loss to appreciate the life, love and happiness. Some believe that this life is all there is, others believe in Heaven and Hell, I believe in the singular consciousness, that our true nature is spirit not body and that this is merely a stage in our existance.

All religious leaders, books and prophets (before people decided they could manipulate religion) were talking about the same thing. Unconditional love for one and all, truth and freedom. That's a belief that mostly connects us all. Christians, Jews, Muslims etc. Every true and peaceful practitioner of each religion is hitting upon the same message.

Are you selfish for wanting her back? No. Because you're human.

"To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human."-Mouse, The Matrix.

Being selfish isn't wrong. It's not wrong to look after and care about yourself in life, that's probably the biggest misconception there is.

So whatever your beliefs, don't look to punish God (To be fair the guy has his hands full with his followers as it is. Have you been to the Religion Forum? 🙂). Your mother may be gone, but she's not "dead". Her body is, and as a result, you cannot see her anymore while your time here is in progress.

I used to fear death and loss beyond all else and while I always had the beliefs in eternal spirit, a certain band and a certain song changed my life. Now I don't fear death at all. It's the one thing we're guaranteed at birth, so it can't be that bad.

As soon as you stop thinking of death as the final sleep, and start thinking of it as the final awakening that it is, I'm sure you'll feel better.

Of course, in the event that me and my philosophical musings don't help. You could always like, shoot some Christians.

-AC

well said. i also believe we are infinite consciousness and after reading certain books it has helped me to not fear death, cos there is no death..there is nothin to fear

Ronny sweetie.. my deepest sympathies on your loss. Its not selfish at all to want her back, it means you did & do love her.. Any mother would be touched at this kind of love from their child. And as far as being 'over it'... I lost my baby boy when he was 3 months old, that was almost 8 years ago. At first I cried every second of every day, now it just hits me every once in a while. You just have to let yourself feel the pain and grieve for them when it hits. No reason to feel guilty about it, its human. If you didnt feel this you'd be a robot and not the compassionate, loving person your mother obviously wanted you to be. As far as how God comes into play in this.. well first off a traumatic event like this would make anyone question his existense. After my son died, I not only questioned God, I was furious with him. I would literally scream in anger. Again, its natural. Everyone questions God at some point. If you wind up at some point really believing in God this experience will probably have alot to do with how you shape your faith, in a good way. Those who never question are sheep. Those who question & come to believe/accept do so from their own free will which is what God wanted anyway, thats why he gave us free will. Just dont deny yourself your feelings and grief, you have those emotions for a reason and to deny them woiuld be self destructive.. Your posting this here is by no means attn whorish, it just means you had the insight to know that you needed feedback and had the guts to lay it all out in the hope that you might get some feedback that would help. And I hope some of what has been thread has helped you some... lots of love to you 🙂

stop thinking youre a digusting person. go outside, kick a kitten, and force yourself to feel good about it. if we dont regret what we do, we wont feel bad about it.

Originally posted by bilb
Ronny sweetie.. my deepest sympathies on your loss. Its not selfish at all to want her back, it means you did & do love her.. Any mother would be touched at this kind of love from their child. And as far as being 'over it'... I lost my baby boy when he was 3 months old, that was almost 8 years ago. At first I cried every second of every day, now it just hits me every once in a while. You just have to let yourself feel the pain and grieve for them when it hits. No reason to feel guilty about it, its human. If you didnt feel this you'd be a robot and not the compassionate, loving person your mother obviously wanted you to be. As far as how God comes into play in this.. well first off a traumatic event like this would make anyone question his existense. After my son died, I not only questioned God, I was furious with him. I would literally scream in anger. Again, its natural. Everyone questions God at some point. If you wind up at some point really believing in God this experience will probably have alot to do with how you shape your faith, in a good way. Those who never question are sheep. Those who question & come to believe/accept do so from their own free will which is what God wanted anyway, thats why he gave us free will. Just dont deny yourself your feelings and grief, you have those emotions for a reason and to deny them woiuld be self destructive.. Your posting this here is by no means attn whorish, it just means you had the insight to know that you needed feedback and had the guts to lay it all out in the hope that you might get some feedback that would help. And I hope some of what has been thread has helped you some... lots of love to you 🙂

Beautifully put... 🙂

And I'm very sorry Ronny 🙁 , I wish you the best 😄