How would the sith lords rank in terms of power?

Nihilius was hardly all powerful there. He at least required concentration of his abilities and some connection to Ravager...if an enemy can act faster than he can, he's dead.

On another note, Simus surviving was not that impressive....his feat's been duplicated in Boba Fett, Enemy of the Empire

Originally posted by Darth Traya
1) Darth Nihilus (because of his force-eating abilities)
2) Marka Ragnos
3) Simus
4) Naga Sadow
5) Ludo Kressh
6) Freddon Nadd
7) Exar Kun
8) Dark Empire Palpatine
9) Darth Traya
10) Ulic Quel Droma

My top ten.

1.) Terrorist Dooku----self-explanatory.
2.) Naga Sadow----self-explanatory.
3.) Ludo Kressh----he's quite close to Naga.
4.) DE Palpatine
5.) Freedon Nadd
6.) Revan
7.) Traya
8.) Bane
9.) Malak
10.) Kaan
11.) Sidious
12.) ROTS Human-Vader
13.) Dooku
14.) Maul
15.) OT Vader

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Nihilius was hardly all powerful there. He at least required concentration of his abilities and some connection to Ravager...if an enemy can act faster than he can, he's dead.

On another note, Simus surviving was not that impressive....his feat's been duplicated in Boba Fett, Enemy of the Empire

Surviving as a head and serving on the Sith council for over a hundred years while still obtaining respect? Yes, I'm sure Boba did that too.

Ragnos knew letting him live on the council would hurt him more than anything and decided to twist the blade.

And in enemy of the Empire, Fett and Vader are both attempting to obtain the still living severed head of a priestess keeping herself alive via the force

1- That made no sense.

2- That doesn't relate at all.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ragnos knew letting him live on the council would hurt him more than anything and decided to twist the blade.

And in enemy of the Empire, Fett and Vader are both attempting to obtain the still living severed head of a priestess keeping herself alive via the force

Uhm... wtf? Where's your proof of Ragnos "knowing" that "letting him live" would hurt him more?

This is coming from the guy who claimed that Vrook and Vander couldn't have been in the Sith War because they weren't mentioned in the TOTJ comics, right? Then you drop a crap inference like that one?

Was she still keeping herself a live and being a Sith Lord while doing it? Yeah, I guess Simus had the multitask version. And even so, we know of 2 individuals pulling it off over thousands of years of SW continuity, not bad.

1. Debated numerous times on the TFN forum and it's the theory I'd stick by. And for how cruel Ragnos was, that fits well.

2. The battles in the Sith War were quite spelled out and we see the council together at one point...no Vrook. No Vandar.

3. Sith Lord? No. Force Prophet? Yes, she was. She kept herself alive for an interminable amount of time...and when some random priestess head does such a feat, it sorta takes the umph from Simus

1- Do you think you could elaborate on this theory with some evidence and support? Or should we just take the generaly concensus of TFN as given fact?

3- Different circumstances, entirely. Simus was a Sith Lord, on the council. Before Ragnos, he has lorded over the other Sith. He was noted for being powerful in Sith magicks. Ragnos defeats him, he lives as a head. He's respected by his fellow Sith, and continues to tutor Naga Sadow. In fact, I would argue that Ragnos letting Simus live afterwards for over a century (And that no one murdered Simus in that time) is a testamont to both of their powers and security within the Sith hierarchy. After all, Ragnos obviously did not feel the need to murder Simus, because Simus was no longer a threat to his power. Yet Simus was not threatened by other SIth, either.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
2. The battles in the Sith War were quite spelled out and we see the council together at one point...no Vrook. No Vandar.

1. The Idea that a Sith Lord as obviously strong, cunning and cruel as Ragnos would have a fallen rival kept alive for a century while Simus still had power and influence over the Sith?

2. How different circumstances? Madam Force Prophet-M-something- also lives on as a head in a box. And was one hell of a prophet.

1. The Idea that a Sith Lord as obviously strong, cunning and cruel as Ragnos would have a fallen rival kept alive for a century while Simus still had power and influence over the Sith?

Where is it said that Ragnos is so cruel that he kills anyone? He didn't kill Sadow or Kressh. Simus was around for a century, do you suppose he went and hung out with the Ewoks for a couple decades and smoked hash while Ragnos was playing his fiddle?

He logically didn't feel Mr. Head-in-a-Jar was a threat. And considering no one even dared to strike him down when he was on his deathbed is a bigger testament to his power.

2. How different circumstances? Madam Force Prophet-M-something- also lives on as a head in a box. And was one hell of a prophet.

Uh... because she wasn't a in a position of power in a empire full of powerful force users that had no hesitation of gutting each other?

The difference is like the amputee that sits at home on his couch all day and the amputee that's a professional, championship level boxer. Totally different levels.

1. The Sith in that comic seemed to function differently than the ones we know. They're up in arms about avenging Simus...and my point was: Ragnos is crueler and more creative than just a killer. And his rule was an ironhanded one.

2. well, she'd been passed along from vicious imperials, to mercs, to dark siders, and eventually to Boba, who killed her. And the woman could see plenty possible futures on her own

1- Actually, the ancient Sith are pretty much paranoid, scheming, and used to deception. Both Ludo and Naga Sadow use trickery and murder to achieve their ends, which is power over others. In this, they are like all Sith.

2- Uh... because she wasn't a in a position of power in a empire full of powerful force users that had no hesitation of gutting each other?

The difference is like the amputee that sits at home on his couch all day and the amputee that's a professional, championship level boxer. Totally different levels.

You didn't entirely address this.

1. I don't recall Ludo using any trickery or deception...the most he ever did coming close to it was declaring himself Dark Lord...Sadow is the only Sith who came across as competent.

2. I'm not sure how the analogy'd apply. Both are strong enough to keep alive with the force when they're just heads. And unlike Simus, the prophet could see the future, multiple futures. Simus was also unable to prevent an assassination on his life, that was more than obvious...Simus was no weakling, not even close, though surviving as a head, when he already had the influence among the Sith...

Ludo deceived Sadow by faking his death.

That didn't make Sadow look good whatsoever...Sadow shows shortly thereafter his technology can read vital signs and Ludo sent an empty decoy

Originally posted by Lord-Nihilus
HEY DONT BIT*H AT ME YOU FU**ING HORSE HUMPER!!!!!!!!!!

Im tired........I forgot........Also, i dont read the Star Wars books or comics whatever they are. I know only from what Kotor has tought me, and the movies....

But, if you've ever played Kotor, you will hear them go on about Revan being one of the Greatest, maybe even the best, so i'll change the list, but dont you rave at me!!!!!!