Yoda and Plo Koon v Mace Windu and Cin Drallig

i partially agree with angrothir and his sources are right but i still dont think plo would be able to master it. There are others who never tried that could probably have mastered it such as yoda but not plo koon

Well Yoda, likely, but I doubt it would be as effective for him as Ataru was, or that he would use it as well as Mace. Remember, the reason that Mace Windu excelled to his level was the combination of Vaapad and his Shatterpoint ability, which greatly accentuated his effectiveness as a fighter.

yes i agree but he still would have been able to master it.

He would have, but there'd have been no point.

No, his sources aren't right. Plo Koon doesn't know dick about Vaapad.

Originally posted by Tangible God
It's kinda funny isn't it? Despite all his powers and Training and reputation, Plo still gets blown unceremoniously from the sky.

You are ridiculous, really no offence though. I have heard so many people say that and it gets on my nerves. His accomplishments do not intercourse with his death. He died like and other jedi would. A backstab. Unexpected attack. If u watch ROTS he made the first move before they fired because he could sense it, but who could outrun two clone troopers firing at u from point blank range. Really...

Originally posted by Lord Janus
Uh, Vaapad is exclusive to THREE PEOPLE in the series, and all were trained by or with Mace Windu. One of them IS Mace Windu. The others are Sora Bulq and Depa Bilaba.

The information you have on Plo Koon is Wikipedia bullshit, made by this sudden emergence of Plo Koon fans. Plo Koon's fame is on par with Boba Fett in the original trilogy, only Boba looked less stupid and actually applied to the plot and spoke.

umm not all bs. His race does see things as right or wrong, as he explained. BUt the Vaapad shit is pretty retarded.

thats the point i agreed on janus and wikipedia is actually pretty reliable

Wikipedia CAN be reliable, in the way that a gun that is prone to jamming can be trusted. Yeah, most of it is probably on key, but if you can't put it into context and separate it from the bias and even the faulty, it's not a good source to rely on BY ITSELF.

But I could just say that a thousand times, and people will still insist that it's reliable.

Vaapad was not this style that was hard......It never says it was hard to master. It was however Dangerous to master. Hence why many didn't try. Many people are contradicting themselves their own sentences...Saying vappad is exclusive to one person. Mace Windu. Then saying in the next sentence that two others used it and fell. And they weren't even that great of jedi...yet they did it. Guess it wasn't that exclusive. All this bs about his death.....Take the best fighter in the world and then give me a gun and the advantage of complete and utter surprise...I win. His death had nothing to do with his ability as a fighter. He was shot down Point Blank by TWO clone troopers in fighters that he in fact thought were his allies. The only thing that u could fault him for is probably a false sense of security laid because of his Emotion sensing tentacles. The clones had no emotions so that might have thrown him off but we won't know.

What is this doing back here?

Originally posted by angrothir
Vaapad was not this style that was hard......It never says it was hard to master. It was however Dangerous to master. Hence why many didn't try. Many people are contradicting themselves their own sentences...Saying vappad is exclusive to one person. Mace Windu. Then saying in the next sentence that two others used it and fell. And they weren't even that great of jedi...yet they did it. Guess it wasn't that exclusive. All this bs about his death.....Take the best fighter in the world and then give me a gun and the advantage of complete and utter surprise...I win. His death had nothing to do with his ability as a fighter. He was shot down Point Blank by TWO clone troopers in fighters that he in fact thought were his allies. The only thing that u could fault him for is probably a false sense of security laid because of his Emotion sensing tentacles. The clones had no emotions so that might have thrown him off but we won't know.

Technically, only Mace mastered it. Depa and Sora were in turn mastered BY it.

Secondly, clones DO have emotions, as shown in The Cestus Deception. Commander Cody also reacts to Obi-Wan in ROTS rather genuinely for a "no emotion automaton."

Third, I bet my ass Anakin Skywalker could outpilot two Clone troopers.

And fourth, so... does PLo win or not in your opinion?

What was the name of the other jedi lady that used a purple lightsaber? I forgot

The dark lady?

The Dark Woman, I believe.

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dues read the books....Only certain types of clone....Special only a few...Have the mind to form emotion...In the clone war book...Not sure which one. the one where anikan becomes a Jedi Knight...anyways, A clone if blown up....What does he feel? nothing. only a need to get back to the base to report what the has seen. several clones has the ability to feel and where are they????in command where feelings would be necissary...what was cody again? in command, therefor logically he would need an amount of feeling to be of any good.

to use anikan, who was famous for his piloting abilities and his abilities as a Jedi, would be completely unfair. I doubt Mace could outpilot them...Does that make him a bad jedi. No.

In my opinion MAce and Cen win...i started with that opinion but it isn't a clean win at all....

only ARC troopers could think semi-independintly

I just watched the Order 66 scenes, and Plo only began to move after the Clones opened fire. Regardless, Plo's piloting skills are irrelevant to this duel.

I'm glad to know that everyone loves Cin. He is pretty cool; don't you guys wish you'd seen more of him in the film?