Cyborg 2 vs. Magneto

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
not quite i was more looking for the cheesy-comic book style dialogue writers generally use when showing powers.

like energy supes would say (in bubble form): impossible! he seems immune to my attempts at manipulating his form?

or something. but all energy supes did in that scan was punch the guy.

How about this. Supes couldnt phase out or teleport out of Borgs trap...and borg was altering his own dna/substance on the fly. Energy powers didnt help supes here.

closer, but still not quite. he would have to absorb mag's DNA first, and even then that might only apply to phasing, which mags doesn't do anyway.

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
closer, but still not quite. he would have to absorb mag's DNA first, and even then that might only apply to phasing, which mags doesn't do anyway.

Absorb mags dna for what?
I think you just dont want to be convinced. I just showed u showing the guy has control over his own molecules and doesnt even have to be metal.

Electric Supes was much more powerful than Mags and he couldnt do jack to actually hurt the guy. How much more convincing can there be?

Didnt mags get almost killed by cyclops beam and then get decapped by wolvie in xmen 150? Mags has no chance here.

that's only because magneto is against killing mutants.

and he would have to absorb magneto's dna because that's how he acquired the immunity to supe's phasing.

and phasing isn't offensive. i'm looking for an offensive attack using EM energy that was halted.

Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
that's only because magneto is against killing mutants.

and he would have to absorb magneto's dna because that's how he acquired the immunity to supe's phasing.

and phasing isn't offensive. i'm looking for an offensive attack using EM energy that was halted.

Wrong on the DNA thing. I dont even know how you got that conclusion.
Cyborg knows the Original Supes DNA by heart. He's got all of supermans powers plus more. and can alter himself on the fly even to appear completely human. The energy supes doesnt even have dna, he's pure energy, basically a walking GL ring.

I see what you are looking for, and this is what I can give you. A creature who can create bodies at will, its a hell of a lot easier for him to create them with machinery, but he doesnt need it.

The original supes broke a moon in half with a single strike, Borg has that power as well, plus much much more. If you can't see it, then let it be.

he said "i have enough of your dna to render me impegnatrable!". which implies he would've had to steal supe's dna to gain that ability.

Well, did he ??

No, he learned Supes DNA from supermans ship, which he took over years ago.
He can create it from scratch as long as there are materials to work with.

If he did that same thing he did to supes to magneto, Mags would die within minutes do to lack of air.
I still dont see what stealing mags dna has to do with anything.

he might have learned the dna from the ship, but his sentence still implies that he gleaned the power to prevent supes' phasing from absorbing his dna. why the f.ck else would he bring it up?

No need to really interrupt the party when it's been so much fun without me so far. But I just wanted to make one point here. Magneto's control over the EM spectrum goes beyond objects, it goes beyond molecules. It's atomic in nature. That means he can affect the very bonds that hold atoms and molecules together. That undermines Henshaw's ability to control himself. Remember, Apocalypse has total molecular control as well, at least as good at Henshaw's. It didn't help him a bit when he found himself controlled at a more minute level than even he was able to exert over himself. The net result? Apocalypse, with total molecular self-control, was torn to bits.

Now, if Henshaw has demonstrated some degree of atomic control, like the Surfer or Thanos have, then we're fighting on more even terms. But until that's shown, this is a pretty big mismatch in favor of Magneto.

Originally posted by demigawd
No need to really interrupt the party when it's been so much fun without me so far. But I just wanted to make one point here. Magneto's control over the EM spectrum goes beyond objects, it goes beyond molecules. It's atomic in nature. That means he can affect the very bonds that hold atoms and molecules together. That undermines Henshaw's ability to control himself. Remember, Apocalypse has total molecular control as well, at least as good at Henshaw's. It didn't help him a bit when he found himself controlled at a more minute level than even he was able to exert over himself. The net result? Apocalypse, with total molecular self-control, was torn to bits.

Now, if Henshaw has demonstrated some degree of atomic control, like the Surfer or Thanos have, then we're fighting on more even terms. But until that's shown, this is a pretty big mismatch in favor of Magneto.

you had to bring Lord Apocalypse into this didn't you? ugh

Originally posted by demigawd
No need to really interrupt the party when it's been so much fun without me so far. But I just wanted to make one point here. Magneto's control over the EM spectrum goes beyond objects, it goes beyond molecules. It's atomic in nature. That means he can affect the very bonds that hold atoms and molecules together. That undermines Henshaw's ability to control himself. Remember, Apocalypse has total molecular control as well, at least as good at Henshaw's. It didn't help him a bit when he found himself controlled at a more minute level than even he was able to exert over himself. The net result? Apocalypse, with total molecular self-control, was torn to bits.

Now, if Henshaw has demonstrated some degree of atomic control, like the Surfer or Thanos have, then we're fighting on more even terms. But until that's shown, this is a pretty big mismatch in favor of Magneto.

Altering the source wall to match superman's dna isnt proof?
The wall is a barrier to the presence. In Superman red/Superman blue the guy took a bunch of childrens toys and turned them into his body. Kryptonian dna and all. Could mags do any of this?
Cyclops blast also burst mags eardrums and pushed him back didnt it?
Wolvie took his head off.
Imagine what Henshaw would do.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Altering the source wall to match superman's dna isnt proof?

No. It's proof of a degree of molecular control that makes it a substance Superman can't phase through. But it's no different than what we already knew. Magneto undermines that molecular control.

The wall is a barrier to the presence. In Superman red/Superman blue the guy took a bunch of childrens toys and turned them into his body. Kryptonian dna and all. Could mags do any of this?

That's not Magneto's schtick, naturally. Has Henshaw split atoms? Has he removed or added electrons to create/remove a charge? Magneto has because his influence is atomic. And atomic control trumps molecular control.

Cyclops blast also burst mags eardrums and pushed him back didnt it?
Wolvie took his head off.

Xorn, not Magneto

Imagine what Henshaw would do.

Die, mainly.

Originally posted by demigawd
No. It's proof of a degree of molecular control that makes it a substance Superman can't phase through. But it's no different than what we already knew. Magneto undermines that molecular control.

That's not Magneto's schtick, naturally. Has Henshaw split atoms? Has he removed or added electrons to create/remove a charge? Magneto has because his influence is atomic. And atomic control trumps molecular control.

Xorn, not Magneto

Die, mainly.

Cyborg is dead

kg, I'm officially making you my deputy backup Magneto fanboy, lol. Your card and decoder ring are in the mail. For you and your other identities.

Originally posted by demigawd
kg, I'm officially making you my deputy backup Magneto fanboy, lol. Your card and decoder ring are in the mail. For you and your other identities.

Anyway

Cyborg getting paralyzed and dumped in the Phantom Zone

Originally posted by demigawd
No. It's proof of a degree of molecular control that makes it a substance Superman can't phase through. But it's no different than what we already knew. Magneto undermines that molecular control.

Feel free to show proof of how you came to this conclusion. You can also show how their is any proof that this impenetrable substance is vulnerable to magnetism. By this ridiculous example, mags should be able to create a clone body easily and create life. Something Borg can do, but that I've never seen mags do. Lets not forget that the further he steers from magnetism and the more powerful the act, the more worn down he becomes.

Originally posted by demigawd
That's not Magneto's schtick, naturally. Has Henshaw split atoms? Has he removed or added electrons to create/remove a charge? Magneto has because his influence is atomic. And atomic control trumps molecular control.[/B]

Has Mags perfected Kryptonian dna? Can he make it out of just about anything? Can his consciousness go across the universe quickly? Can he alter his body at will and become not the environment, Can he be in 2 or more places at once? Is he strong enough to punch a moon in half? Is he faster than light speed? Can his human skin prevent cyborg simply absorbing him if he mentally beams through his force field? How long can he hold his breath if cyborg traps him like supes did. Can he get through Cyborgs force field? Mags may have 1 way to win if you can prove it. Cyborg has so many more.

Originally posted by demigawd
Xorn, not Magneto

If this is shown after xmen 150, no prob. I'll accept it. Just tell me the issue.

Originally posted by demigawd
Die, mainly.

Yes, Magneto shall. While cursing his human frailty.

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes am so happy

Anyway

Cyborg getting paralyzed and dumped in the Phantom Zone

Does mags have that weapon handy? How do you know he can create it?

Guess mags doesnt always have his shield up. Psychic energy can go through mags shield? Great. That is the true henshaw. Right through Mags forcefield and crushing mags head with his own helmet faster than mags can think.

😎

I............ the topic starter....... am confused !!!

Originally posted by kgkg
Again you don't know what you are talking about.

Borg has been trapped before by beams, he can be trapped by magneto like that.

Any thing borg can do, Magneto can undo

Borg might has a major advantage in strength etc

But magneto can take him simple by trap him, and breaking him to bits.

And since when did Electric Supes control metal like magneto?

Magneto can easily create a black hole and dump him in.

Like what they did to Borg ( by sending him)

I can tell you dont know what you are talking about. Stick to your holy grail of Supes punch. 😆 even though its been shown to be ineffective against borg.
Black holes....like mags does this effortlessly all the time..and borg survives black holes. Does mags?
Since when can magneto control metal (give it life) like Borg?
Borg can easily kill mags with a though. No forcefield will help him.
At Borg speed, Mags is standing still, or is mags now light speed?
This isnt superman, borg isnt going to stand still and talk while mags tries things. X-men give mags trouble meanwhile Borgs beats down multiple supermen.

What part of being in more than one place dont u get? Or becoming one with the environment? Willing himself in mags helmet and crushing his head with his own helmet. Seconds.
Give me a break...lol 😆 This is what will happen to mags on borg assilmilates any part of his costume.