If God created the universe, who created God?

Started by xmarksthespot11 pages

I always thought at some point the universe would stop expanding and start contracting until all matter and energy was condensed into a singularity again. Time would not exist so there's no point wondering how long the universe would be in this state. Then at some point a new Big Bang would occur, although since time does not exist in between the Big Bang would occur at the exact moment the universe compressed to a singularity. The end of the old universe causes the start of the new universe. Endless cycle.
I don't know if this is supported by any current physics knowledge.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I always thought at some point the universe would stop expanding and start contracting until all matter and energy was condensed into a singularity again. Time would not exist so there's no point wondering how long the universe would be in this state. Then at some point a new Big Bang would occur, although since time does not exist in between the Big Bang would occur at the exact moment the universe compressed to a singularity. The end of the old universe causes the start of the new universe. Endless cycle.
I don't know if this is supported by any current physics knowledge.

This is what physicists think that will happen if the universe starts to contract, ending in what they call 'Big Crunch', but for it to happen, it need to have suficient mass, and a constant 'lambda' need to be less than 1... or it would be more than 1, 😕 I don´t remember.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
This is what physicists think that will happen if the universe starts to contract, ending in what they call 'Big Crunch', but for it to happen, it need to have suficient mass, and a constant 'lambda' need to be less than 1... or it would be more than 1, 😕 I don´t remember.

Right now, the curvature or flatness of the universe is too close to call.

What did you mean by "too close to call" ? Anyway the universe is accelerating, and its acceleration increasing each time, by what physicists call dark energy, which is the energy associated to dark matter, this matter must have some type of anti-gravitational force which is causing the expansion of the universe.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
What did you mean by "too close to call" ? Anyway the universe is accelerating, and its acceleration increasing each time, by what physicists call dark energy, which is the energy associated to dark matter, this matter must have some type of anti-gravitational force which is causing the expansion of the universe.

My information might be out of date; I read a called... Sorry I can't find it in my book shelf (I must have lent it to someone). Einstein before he died tried to calculate the curvature of the universe and found that it was almost curved and almost flat.

According to the Bible, and as a true Christian... I believe that our Father in heaven created everything. He has infinite beginning and infinite end.

and as a true Christian
which you aint

For some reason I have an image of a little Italian man with spectacles working away in his God worship, custom making Gods for every person, purpose and civilisation. Money back guarantee if your not 100% satisfied with the religion... but then the shop is never there when one goes back, so no refund is ever given... And the Italian man would be called Basil, just to distant himself from the whole Pinocchio thing.

Though seriously I wonder why, if there is/was a God why anyone would have created it. What kind of thing would create a God, other then mankind of course, what with our need for one at times.

But I only know Gepetto.......I cook with Basil....maybe Basil is more special then I thought.

I think all the energy got together and decided it was bored, and decided to try something different...so we all decided to split away from ourselves and become something else, just for the fun of it.

God was not created -- He is outside of time and beyond human comprehension -- He has no beginning, and He has no ending.

Originally posted by ska57
God was not created -- He is outside of time and beyond human comprehension -- He has no beginning, and He has no ending.

Yes there is no beginning and there is no end.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes there is no beginning and there is no end.

That's not what he meant. God just always existed. if he had a beginning, he would also have an end. He would have been a creation like the rest of us, which he isn't. In other words, God is eternal, the first and the last. 😎

Originally posted by Majora's Mask
That's not what he meant. God just always existed. if he had a beginning, he would also have an end. He would have been a creation like the rest of us, which he isn't. In other words, God is eternal, the first and the last. 😎

Like I said God has no beginning and no end.

If God was created, then there must have been a higher being who created God. However, I think it would be pretty difficult to be a higher being than someone who is All-Powerful, All-knowing, and able to be everywhere at once.

god has no beginning or end

its beyond our understanding

Originally posted by majjacet
its beyond our understanding

Think of it like this: Now is the same now that has always been and alway will be, like a room, things come and go, but the room remains the same.

I concur

but the room remains the same.
not necessarily

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Think of it like this: Now is the same now that has always been and alway will be, like a room, things come and go, but the room remains the same.
Originally posted by finti
not necessarily

OH...good lets get into some abstract right hemisphere thinking....I love these metaphors... 😄