Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
When I read that batman tipped the scales to the point of it being unbalanced.... yea.The only way this is being won is with some serious, and I mean " Daredevil beating godzilla on life support" pis/cis.
Yeah. Because that's the only way Surfer and Runner is winning this battle. 🙂
Originally posted by dvampire
Yeah. Because that's the only way Surfer and Runner is winning this battle. 🙂
Okay, I am your good friend, but listen to me for a sec, hear me out.
I notice when people keep asking for proof, 2 things are happening:
1. They want proof of something happening.
2. They are using it as a scapegoat with little else to counter.
This is why I don't like feat wars. What a character does makes a character who he is, but given what that character can do logically , I really don't see how the JLA is beating these two. Silver Surfer, yes, Runner no.
I can easily say feats that makes supes bad, and you could do the opposite, it really doesn't add to the debate. Especially when popular characters like supes have more to show for.
So logically, give me your premise of why superman and the others would win.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<mak become speed itself
If you see superman or flash moving as fast as him let me know.
Mak has done beyond light speed (by long shot)
Runner is not only much faster that Flash, Superman he got the raw power to knock any member within seconds.>>kg, you said runner IS speed. you were wrong. you said he had no limit. you were wrong. you said he could be anywhere in anytime. you were wrong. he couldn't finish the galactic marathon 'in an instant'. mak beat him, mantis tripped him. and you tell me he'll beat the jla by himself EASILY? like hell he will.
i'm sure some flash fan can provide you with evidence of flash moving at those speeds. i was simply calling bull*&^% on your love affair with runner. if flash can steal his speed and take out runner, the rest of the league will punish ss and win this. if flash can't then it becomes a question.
and NO, runner did NOT 'beat up on thanos' let alone 'beat up on him for fun'. cripes . . . does anyone READ the issues anymore or do people just regurgitate what OTHERS on the forum say?? runner smashed thanos's chair to pieces and let him drift in space then thanos outsmarted him and took his gem. THAT is what happened. damn, this kind of thing happens all the time 'round here, then you got some guy who's never read the issue going to some other thread saying - "runner is invincible, he beat the *&^% out of thanos!" the hell he did! true thanos couldn't hit him with his blast, but runner sure as hell never got close enough for thanos to touch him . . .
stay in touch with facts. please.
Flawed logic Leo
Runner like Silver Surfer travels Galaxy in nano second.
Flash needed to accelerate big time to beat Grod.
Steal what kinetic energy? Leo you can do better.
If sissy shit like that would have worked SS would have kicked his ass.
And ya he was trashing Thanos , and when have you seen Thanos failed to hit someone up? Fallen One was traveling beyond light speed Thanos got him etc.
And there was another race where Runner outraced Mak without trying 🙂
1000000X lighth year vs bunch of mach speed dudes, and one can reach light speed and beyond when he is one with the speed force.
hmmmmmmmm
and a guy who have enough raw power to K.O any member with ease.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
so hard
Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Okay, I am your good friend, but listen to me for a sec, hear me out.I notice when people keep asking for proof, 2 things are happening:
1. They want proof of something happening.
2. They are using it as a scapegoat with little else to counter.
This is why I don't like feat wars. What a character does makes a character who he is, but given what that character can do logically , I really don't see how the JLA is beating these two. Silver Surfer, yes, Runner no.
I can easily say feats that makes supes bad, and you could do the opposite, it really doesn't add to the debate. Especially when popular characters like supes have more to show for.
So logically, give me your premise of why superman and the others would win.
Supes is able to go head to head with Surfer by himself, adding MM, Wonder Woman, Captain Atom, and Plastic Man is just over kill. As for Runner, those scans havn't showed him to do anythig but travel fast, not fight or thing at those speeds. Flash just may be able to take there speed, making them motionless.
Originally posted by dvampire
Prove that Runner can KO them. Prove that Surfers durability is greater than Supes. Supes is take city destroying blast, they stop him, but don't put him down for good.
City destroying attacks does effect Supes , other wise Cyborg wouldn’t make it a big deal.
Big difference
Runner wasn't spacewarping during the race. If he was he'd have left the field behind entirely, but proved nothing. It'd be like Lance Armstrong on a Vespa.
Makkari outran runner after spending months doing crazy DragonballZ-like training on a planet where the entire race were uber-speedsters. Thanks to Chronos's experiments, the Eternals of Earth (+Thanos) tap into the same cosmic energy power as the Elders, though to a lesser degree. Makkari used the power in a way that the Elder didn't know yet. How many times have we seen someone at the top of their game shown up by a rookie with fresh moves? It happens. Now that the Runner knows that feat is possable (whatever "becoming speed" really means, I took that as a metaphor), you know he won't/can't rest untill he mastered it too.
Originally posted by kgkg
Just because he got hit doesn't mean he can go light speed in second?Flawed logic Leo
Runner like Silver Surfer travels Galaxy in nano second.
Flash needed to accelerate big time to beat Grod.
Steal what kinetic energy? Leo you can do better.
If sissy shit like that would have worked SS would have kicked his ass.
And ya he was trashing Thanos , and when have you seen Thanos failed to hit someone up? Fallen One was traveling beyond light speed Thanos got him etc.
And there was another race where Runner outraced Mak without trying 🙂
1000000X lighth year vs bunch of mach speed dudes, and one can reach light speed and beyond when he is one with the speed force.
hmmmmmmmm
and a guy who have enough raw power to K.O any member with ease.
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
so hard
Yeah but if Thanos was able to hit him, that whould mean that his reflexive speeds isn't as fast as he travels then, because Thanos isn't that fast. Prove that he can KO any of the members with ease? 🙂
Originally posted by dvampire
Supes is able to go head to head with Surfer by himself, adding MM, Wonder Woman, Captain Atom, and Plastic Man is just over kill. As for Runner, those scans havn't showed him to do anythig but travel fast, not fight or thing at those speeds. Flash just may be able to take there speed, making them motionless.
Like I said, SS can be defeated by JLA.
So runner is the character still in question here?
Originally posted by dvampire
Yeah but if Thanos was able to hit him, that whould mean that his reflexive speeds isn't as fast as he travels then, because Thanos isn't that fast. Prove that he can KO any of the members with ease? 🙂
Prove , which member is going to take hits from SS , or Runner?
Originally posted by kgkg
ya want SS takes world destroying attacks , and Super Nova in his sleep.City destroying attacks does effect Supes , other wise Cyborg wouldn’t make it a big deal.
Big difference
Supes survived black holes, worm holes and countless more stuff. And Supes way beyound city destroying blast.
Here's Superman taking a million nuclear blasts.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/473/0822345tz.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6231/08222005121910pm5bv.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3259/089054121zl.jpg
He also got up to fight with Doomsday somemore aswell. Hes much more powerful than that now. 🙂
Originally posted by dvampire
Supes survived black holes, worm holes and countless more stuff. And Supes way beyound city destroying blast.Here's Superman taking a million nuclear blasts.
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/473/0822345tz.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/6231/08222005121910pm5bv.jpg
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/3259/089054121zl.jpg
He also got up to fight with Doomsday somemore aswell. Hes much more powerful than that now. 🙂
million nuclear blasts vs SuperNova?
and Superman was K.o'ed by that.
Flash's speed is kinda tricky. I think it was said somewhere that Runner is faster than speed itself or something like that. Now i dont know much about Runner, but i do know that Flash has raced to the end of time in less than 2 min. Thats billions of years in the future.
It has also been said that Flash may be able to be overloaded with kinetic energy. I would like to hear about an instance. Hes absorbed speed of the 5 fastest people on the planet after him as well as the speed of the entire planet. Im not saying that he cant, but if he has, proof would be greatly appreciated.
Originally posted by kgkg
just helps my case thank youmillion nuclear blasts vs SuperNova?
and Superman was K.o'ed by that.
That was a while back, hes can take much more than that now. Hes survived black holes, supernovas, and wormholes aswell. 😄
Doesn't look like a he can take a supernova to me. 😄
SS's speed is equal to that of a GL, so the main speedsters in question here are Flash and Runner.
Flash and Lantern are probably the fastest on the JLA team. Lantern's are also able to take Supernovas, so im sure that if one is delivered, GL would protect the team. I doubt that Surfer or Runner has the ability to create a blast more destructive than a supernova. Or even equal in damage.
Originally posted by jrodslam
SS's speed is equal to that of a GL, so the main speedsters in question here are Flash and Runner.Flash and Lantern are probably the fastest on the JLA team. Lantern's are also able to take Supernovas, so im sure that if one is delivered, GL would protect the team. I doubt that Surfer or Runner has the ability to create a blat more destructive than a supernova.
His shield gets broken by shitty people every issue
