Originally posted by kgkg
Kyle me think not?His shield gets broken by shitty people every issue
Uhhh who said the GL was Kyle? A GL's shield and force field are 2 different things. Plus just because Kyles shield gets broken every issue, does that result in defeat?
Im assuming Hal is the GL in this battle. If its Kyle, then thats another story.
Thanos dodged the Surfer when he tried to swoop in at lightspeed and snatch the Infinity Gauntlet.
Runner fought at superspeed when he fought the Surfer. He was able to clock the Surfer and whirl around for another blow before Norin got back on his board. He was also able to snatch the board itself.
Surfer's durability varies widely. One day he shrugs off a supernova, the next he gets coldcocked by the Thing. The same thing could be said of Superman. I think at their typical, modern, power levels I'd give the edge to Surfer, but that's not saying much.
Personally, I think the Leaguer with the best chance of stopping the Runner is Plasticman. Imagine sticking an eggbeater into a bag full of rubberbands. I'm picturing something like that.
Originally posted by dvampire
That was a while back, hes can take much more than that now. Hes survived black holes, supernovas, and wormholes aswell. 😄Doesn't look like a he can take a supernova to me. 😄
or before?
He takes supernova with ease he even said that like what 10 times.
and where is the scan of Supes taking it am still waiting , some guy who can't handle City destoying attacks with ease whould be standing after that? and i hope you got issue to back your claims
Man, people aren't even listening to me. Draining won't work, Flash will just get overloaded. Supes won't last long because Surfer could just drain the solar energy out of him, or emit red sun radiation. Runner is fast enough to speed blitz Wonder Woman and SS has is immune to telepathy, so MM is out of the picture. That's the big hitters of the JLA, all defeated.
Originally posted by Khellendros
Man, people aren't even listening to me. Draining won't work, Flash will just get overloaded. Supes won't last long because Surfer could just drain the solar energy out of him, or emit red sun radiation. Runner is fast enough to speed blitz Wonder Woman and SS has is immune to telepathy, so MM is out of the picture. That's the big hitters of the JLA, all defeated.
I guess you didnt read one of my previous posts. Has Flash ever been overloaded with speed energy? Hes absorbed the entire planet along with 5 of the fastest beings on Earth. If hes been overloaded before can you prove this? Thanks. 🙂
I highly doubt Surfer would go directly for Superman because hed have to worry about Hal. Thats just my opinion.
The Runner is over 5,500,000,000 years old, his powers are 10x greater than the silver surfer. And like the silver surfer he can increase his power at will with primodial power, he his one a few beings that can beat the sh** out of the champion of the universe. The runner is the second in fighting next to champion, so his fighting skills are sick. He nearly killed the surfer in battle and made him him look like an a$$hole.
The JLA doesn't have a chance in hell of beating a being pure raw power, he will speed rape them before they know what has happen and for the hell of it he can blow up the damn planet if he really wanted too.
When Surfer and Nova were trying to save Galactus from the Elders' assasination attempt and Nova wasn't sure what to do while Surfur held off the "Suck Galactus Dry Beam," Surfer told her to destroy the star is a tone that was like "come on, isn't it obvious?"
Frankie flew into the heart of the star and caused it to detonate, destroying the Elders' machinery along with everything else in the vecinity. A few of the Elders were sucked into the ensuing black hole, but veryone survived!
<<I guess you didnt read one of my previous posts. Has Flash ever been overloaded with speed energy? Hes absorbed the entire planet along with 5 of the fastest beings on Earth. If hes been overloaded before can you prove this? Thanks. >>
yep. 🙂
and runner COULDN'T bend space in that race. not because it wouldn't PROVE anything if he did, but because it was the gem that let him do that. without the gem, he's just another speedster. if we're allowing him the gem in this fight, that's another matter. i assumed this was current characters. again, i don't know much about current flash or his speed feats, but if he's run to the end of time and outraced death, i'd say he has a fair shot at being as fast as runner - and if those feats are true, he is likely much faster. tell me one impressive thing (that no other uberspeedster could do) runner has done since losing the gem. just one, and i'll concede he's 'clearly' faster than flash.
and kg, how do you know runner accelerates faster than flash??
and lam, i actually thought plas might be an issue for runner as well. plas gums up his legs, gets him to stop, ww lasso's his arse then supes, mm, and gl finish surfer.
it really isn't as clear cut as some say it is.
as for stealing speed - this can be argued forever because no one on eitehr side can say he can or can't based on anything more than personal opinion. so everyone stop touting OPINION as fact.
and kg, how do you know runner accelerates faster than flash?? and lam, i actually thought plas might be an issue for runner as well. plas gums up his legs, gets him to stop, ww lasso's his arse then supes, mm, and gl finish surfer. it really isn't as clear cut as some say it is. as for stealing speed - this can be argued forever because no one on eitehr side can say he can or can't based on anything more than personal opinion. so everyone stop touting OPINION as fact.
And Flash needing to accelerate to hit Grod.
Originally posted by Wynndar
Surfer's powers r used so much more dynamically than these JLA "cartoons". They are just powerful but not written with any depth. Surfer outclasses them. I think the whole JLA at once would be able to pull out something though...thats a big team
Right the Surfer apart from Blockbuster certainly has the depth of Kingdom come............good point 😕............ ❌
Infinity Gem wielders have repeatedly been shown to retain residual powers after loosing their Gem. Warlock is the most obvious example, but Moondragon's telekinisis and Pip's teleportation persisted as well. The Runner had the Space Gem for at least as long as Pip did and Pip can still port across interstellar distances, though post-gem I don't think we've seen him cross dimensions or visit Death's Realm.
As far as I know, the Galactic Marathon is the Runner's only post-gem appearance. I thought he was using his power to let the other compettitors run through space too, or was the track another Architect construct?
As an aside, this thread is on the front page of Google when you search for:Runner Elder Universe.
