Illuminati control of the USA

Started by Alpha Centauri15 pages

Do you even know what occult means, Novu?

Do you even know what you're talking about?

-AC

More paranoid conspiracy nonsence.

And I am sorry, Novu- but the shame is on YOU for expecting extraordinary claims of yours to be believed without bothering to supply convincing sources and evidence. It is most definitely incumbent upon YOU to provide that, and not for others to do research to back your argument FOR you.

And Deano, it won't be the last time you post that, I am pretty sure, and each time you post it it still won't be true, implying that everyone believe what the Government and Media says, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth- if anything, people are overly cynical these days; there is virtually NO faith in authority.

To add to that,

What is it that you think you're discovering? You honestly think that it's as easy as clicking a website to uncover earth-shattering government conspiracies and have them be true? If the government don't want you to know something, you won't know it.

They're playing you like an arcade machine.

-AC

Originally posted by DeRFmAn
I don't know how much I believe this stuff, but I do find it very interesting. I won't say that its true and I won't say thats its not true, mainly because I can't rule it out because some of what is said in favor of it isn't all that far fetched, although some is. Which makes me think that it may not be true. As for Bardock's prime numbers thats math and all you have to do is math to find it out so its easily provable. He also said something about 42 being the perfect number and relayed a site, which I ended up going to, I ended up reading from top to bottom some was iffy but most was actually pretty freaking cool. I dunno I just find stuff like this interesting, by that I mean special numbers, secret societies, and stuff like conspiracy theories.

Actally the Site I posted aboot the 42, ...42 is not a special number (wel it is for the people that read douglas adams) but it proofs that you can do that with most numbers...íts nothing special....that's why the Illuminati and that it happens with "The Illuminati Numbers" 23 and 5 is just coincidence....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What is it that you think you're discovering? You honestly think that it's as easy as clicking a website to uncover earth-shattering government conspiracies and have them be true? If the government don't want you to know something, you won't know it.
They're playing you like an arcade machine.
-AC

Exactly. You believe that massive secret societies control the world and yet fail to realise if they do... then why exactly can you read about their conspiracies so easily.
Try searching Falun Gong on Chinese Google. It will come up blank.

(BTW Does anyone else see the irony in someone being skeptical to the point of paranoia about governments and yet being so easily accepting of conspiracy theories.)

Originally posted by Novusordo

The reason an otherthrow/rebelion will be impossible is becuase not only will the microchip enable them to automaticly kill you with the touch of a button but no one will even try because of the cashless society where credit on your implanted microchip is the only credit/cash system there is and they can cease your credit whenever they like. Ultimate control. Bad monkey no bannana, so to speak.

😆 😆 😆 oh shit, 😆 😆 that is great stuff, you should contact your local paper, and let them in on this information. 😂

Originally posted by Deano
there is lots of evidence, i suggest you read a book on the subject, it all doesnt come from websites u know

ands its about common sense, anyone with a brain shud be now coming to the realisation that the 9/11 offical story is a monumental lie

I'm sorry Deano, but you and your friends are not correct about 9/11. I have told you why. There is no amount of evidence that you can provide that will overrule the eye witnesses. I've debated you point by by point on that, and there are too many holes in your story.

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
I'm sorry Deano, but you and your friends are not correct about 9/11. I have told you why. There is no amount of evidence that you can provide that will overrule the eye witnesses. I've debated you point by by point on that, and there are too many holes in your story.

Don't be ****ing stupid, a 3 year old can take the official version of 9/11 apart within minutes.

Besides, those weeks ago when Deano and I were convincing you that 9/11 was an inside job, you eventualy admitted you agreed the US government let it happen.

Ohh and lastly, most eye witneses say multiple bombs detonated at the base of the WTC's - how the ****ing else did it fall in a text-book style demolition, use your ****ing head, Oswald.

Deano, you should stop shoving your views down everyone's throat and approach this in a mature manner ✅

Originally posted by Dogbert
Deano, you should stop shoving your views down everyone's throat and approach this in a mature manner ✅

you and everyone else knows where the door is

Originally posted by Novusordo
Don't be ****ing stupid, a 3 year old can take the official version of 9/11 apart within minutes.

Besides, those weeks ago when Deano and I were convincing you that 9/11 was an inside job, you eventualy admitted you agreed the US government let it happen.

Ohh and lastly, most eye witneses say multiple bombs detonated at the base of the WTC's - how the ****ing else did it fall in a text-book style demolition, use your ****ing head, Oswald.

The building was built to fall vertically. It's simple physics. Most eye witnesses? Can you provide names? Considering most civilians were running from the collapse, how can you say they saw anything? I was right there with them, Novu, so my opinion is much more important than any article you can provide. Tell me Novu, how many of the writers you source were actually there? They all seem to reside in England.

I can plainly admit the US government allowed 9/11 to happen... through arrogance and lack of a uniform way of sharing the information. I have never stated that I thought it was an inside job.

Originally posted by Deano
you and everyone else knows where the door is
You want people to believe you right? Stop being an arsehole then. Going about disparaging other's opinions about your own opinion (Which I dont' dismiss entirely) only makes yours less credible. Insulting people isn't the way to make people believe.

Jahova's Witnesses don't go door-to-door saying "Hey you lame-brained mofo, believe in god or else your a puppet of satan. *****!". Instead, they handle it in a mature, calm manner, as you should be doing.

Originally posted by Dogbert
You want people to believe you right? Stop being an arsehole then. Going about disparaging other's opinions about your own opinion (Which I dont' dismiss entirely) only makes yours less credible. Insulting people isn't the way to make people believe.

Jahova's Witnesses don't go door-to-door saying "Hey you lame-brained mofo, believe in god or else your a puppet of satan. *****!". Instead, they handle it in a mature, calm manner, as you should be doing.

lol insulting people? you mean like you just insulted me now?
show me where i have insulted someone? so all ive done is insult people to try and make them believe?
you havent got a clue what you are on about.
you done nothin in this thread but make short little pointless irrelevent statements

http://www.sacredcow.com/media/links/store_items/bestofalex/indoor_fbi_bg.ram

alex jones shelling the crap out of an fbi agent, alex jones confronts him about the oklahoma bombing, whats the agents reply? SPEECHLESS!

Originally posted by Deano
lol insulting people? you mean like you just insulted me now?
show me where i have insulted someone? so all ive done is insult people to try and make them believe?
you havent got a clue what you are on about.
you done nothin in this thread but make short little pointless irrelevent statements

Yes, insulting people. Calling people puppets constitutes as insulting... and no, I haven't insulted you. I'll leave that open to others opinions if I insulted you in my previous statement or not.

Assuming that I don't have a clue about what I am on about is also fairly innaccurate... I believe in your conspiracy theory. I did research, way before you even posted this. While certain parts seem slightly far-fetched... I also think that certain parts are extremely likely, and that there aretoo many coincidences to dismiss the "theories" entirely.

And... I think I remember you posting "lol". That isn't irrelevant?

Originally posted by Dogbert
Yes, insulting people. Calling people puppets constitutes as insulting... and no, I haven't insulted you. I'll leave that open to others opinions if I insulted you in my previous statement or not.

Assuming that I don't have a clue about what I am on about is also fairly innaccurate... I believe in your conspiracy theory. I did research, way before you even posted this. While certain parts seem slightly far-fetched... I also think that certain parts are extremely likely, and that there aretoo many coincidences to dismiss the "theories" entirely.

And... I think I remember you posting "lol". That isn't irrelevant?

yes i called people puppets, people have called me nastier things..so dont just single me out
calling me an arsehole...i think thats genuinly considered an insult
im not bothered by name calling anyway..like water off a ducks back
anyway
back on topic..

Originally posted by Deano
yes i called people puppets, people have called me nastier things..so dont just single me out
calling me an arsehole...i think thats genuinly considered an insult
im not bothered by name calling anyway..like water off a ducks back
anyway
back on topic..

It all stems from your immature handling of contradictory views towards your own. People call you nastier things because you have called them puppets. Stop calling them puppets or "retaliating". Granted, idiots and immature people visit this board and will insult you... but why do you have to join their crowd by returning the favor? Just don't do it... and the people with intelligence who can actually carry out a good discussion will probably give you more respect.

Perhaps you are right, arsehole might be insulting. But it is the truth, at least I believe most will agree on it.

If it were water off a ducks back, you would ignore the immature perusers of the GDF who automatically attack, attempt to discredit, and insult you/your opinion without actually giving it any thought first. Except, you don't.

Originally posted by Deano
http://www.sacredcow.com/media/links/store_items/bestofalex/indoor_fbi_bg.ram

alex jones shelling the crap out of an fbi agent, alex jones confronts him about the oklahoma bombing, whats the agents reply? SPEECHLESS!

So, your point is an antagonistic interviewer telling the agent the "facts" rather than asking any questions? He never gave the guy time to speak! And the video ends as Alex Jones stops speaking. Who knows how the FBI agent responded. That is ridiculous, Deano. Do you know nothing about public speaking? Of course the FBI agent is going to be silent. They are trained to be silent, so their words cannot be twisted around in the way Alex Jones loves to do. Must we constantly go over what legitimate material backing up your claims is? Show a video of an FBI agent admitting to an inside job. Show scans of factual documents supporting your claims. Show a video of FDNY firemen caliming to see bombs in the World Trade Center. Of course, your response will be the material doesn't exist because it has been suppressed.

Originally posted by Dogbert
It all stems from your immature handling of contradictory views towards your own. People call you nastier things because you have called them puppets. Stop calling them puppets or "retaliating". Granted, idiots and immature people visit this board and will insult you... but why do you have to join their crowd by returning the favor? Just don't do it... and the people with intelligence who can actually carry out a good discussion will probably give you more respect.

Perhaps you are right, arsehole might be insulting. But it is the truth, at least I believe most will agree on it.

If it were water off a ducks back, you would ignore the immature perusers of the GDF who automatically attack, attempt to discredit, and insult you/your opinion without actually giving it any thought first. Except, you don't.

show me the last time i called someone a puppet?
a lot of regulars on this site have insulted me before i even used the term puppets..maybe you should look back on the threads and see
im not being an arsehole..carry on insulting if it makes you feel good

''Granted, idiots and immature people visit this board and will insult you... but why do you have to join their crowd by returning the favor? Just don't do it.''

that made me laugh, when have i returned the favour?
am i not allowed to voice my opinion? if i think people are puppets then why cant i say it? if people think im crazy then so be it..i wont take that as an insult and get all worked up about it like some people do..they are just words .if anyone is offended by the word puppet, it is not because I am being offensive because that is not my intention. It is because you have chosen to be offended. It is all taking place in your mind, not mine. Even if I was trying to be offensive, you still don’t have to take it on and be affected by it. People constantly get offended and wound up about things that don’t matter. you could of ignored it or gone on to cause another argument..like you have now...was that the right choice for you to make?

Originally posted by Dogbert
It all stems from your immature handling of contradictory views towards your own. People call you nastier things because you have called them puppets. Stop calling them puppets or "retaliating". Granted, idiots and immature people visit this board and will insult you... but why do you have to join their crowd by returning the favor? Just don't do it... and the people with intelligence who can actually carry out a good discussion will probably give you more respect.

Perhaps you are right, arsehole might be insulting. But it is the truth, at least I believe most will agree on it.

If it were water off a ducks back, you would ignore the immature perusers of the GDF who automatically attack, attempt to discredit, and insult you/your opinion without actually giving it any thought first. Except, you don't.

If the topic was not so ludicrous, a discussion might be had. Over and over I have attempted to discuss the WTC attack with Deano. I have set the rules of the debate about what legitimate material is, and he has come up with nothing. I know where the information from non-conspiracy theory sources that backs up his claims. I know where the contradictory material is too. I have read both. I'm waiting for Deano to provide it, yet everything he produces is from conspiracy theory nutjobs. This shows he has only looked at one source for his information and refuses to study the counterpoint. I have provided Deano with the best excuse to use. He is not as articulate as he needs to be to competently discuss this topic. He denies this, but will not engage in a one on one exchange of information. I don't think he's an *******, but he does suffer from tunnel vision.

It's very funny how Novusordo jumps to Deano's defense with his zealous posts, yet their beliefs differ so much. Deano scoffs everytime he is associated with the lizard men theory, yet Novusordo believes it without question. Like all of these wackboys, they really need to get their stories straight before calling everybody else blind sheep.