Illuminati control of the USA

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
So, your point is an antagonistic interviewer telling the agent the "facts" rather than asking any questions? He never gave the guy time to speak! And the video ends as Alex Jones stops speaking. Who knows how the FBI agent responded. That is ridiculous, Deano. Do you know nothing about public speaking? Of course the FBI agent is going to be silent. They are trained to be silent, so their words cannot be twisted around in the way Alex Jones loves to do. Must we constantly go over what legitimate material backing up your claims is? Show a video of an FBI agent admitting to an inside job. Show scans of factual documents supporting your claims. Show a video of FDNY firemen caliming to see bombs in the World Trade Center. Of course, your response will be the material doesn't exist because it has been suppressed.

i understand that but i think the fbi agent had time to reply..if alex jones was saying all that stuff to me and i knew it was all lies then id react angrilly and i would tell him there and then what bullshit he is spewing

here is a link that says a former mi5 agent thinks it was an inside job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm

I don't honestly believe that Deano believes half to all the shit he posts or says. I think he does it because it really annoys you all.

Novu really does seem to be that pathetically gullible though. Swearing and bullying people into blindly believing him, because that's not being a sheep. Disagreeing with him is.

-AC

Originally posted by Oswald Kenobi
If the topic was not so ludicrous, a discussion might be had. Over and over I have attempted to discuss the WTC attack with Deano. I have set the rules of the debate about what legitimate material is, and he has come up with nothing. I know where the information from non-conspiracy theory sources that backs up his claims. I know where the contradictory material is too. I have read both. I'm waiting for Deano to provide it, yet everything he produces is from conspiracy theory nutjobs. This shows he has only looked at one source for his information and refuses to study the counterpoint. I have provided Deano with the best excuse to use. He is not as articulate as he needs to be to competently discuss this topic. He denies this, but will not engage in a one on one exchange of information. I don't think he's an *******, but he does suffer from tunnel vision.

It's very funny how Novusordo jumps to Deano's defense with his zealous posts, yet their beliefs differ so much. Deano scoffs everytime he is associated with the lizard men theory, yet Novusordo believes it without question. Like all of these wackboys, they really need to get their stories straight before calling everybody else blind sheep.

ok you always ask for proof but you always accept lies given by the politicians without any demand for 'proof' and yet you insist on proof from anyone challenging the official version of reality. why is that?
as for the lizard theory..im not dismissing it or believing it...who am i to say whats real and whats not?..i can only put forth my opinion
i could put a pile of info which says that 9/11 was an inside job..and i could put a pile of info which says the opposite, it is up to you what you believe, its up to you to look up and make up your own mind without keep asking for proof, what feels right to you?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't honestly believe that Deano believes half to all the shit he posts or says. I think he does it because it really annoys you all.

Novu really does seem to be that pathetically gullible though. Swearing and bullying people into blindly believing him, because that's not being a sheep. Disagreeing with him is.

-AC

wrong again AC. if you really think i post this to annoy people then you are deadly wrong. why is it so hard to believe this stuff?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't honestly believe that Deano believes half to all the shit he posts or says. I think he does it because it really annoys you all.

-AC

Correct.

Aside from Shayler being the most enormous ****, him being an MI5 ex (and a very irrelevant one at that) makes bugger all difference seeing as he hadn't been one for five years by the time of 9/11.

He's just another nut- with a known grudge against the British government- with silly conspiracy ideas.

It is hard to believe because it is unsupported nonsense and all the sources you provide are varying degrees of awful.

Why is it so easy to?

If you wanna believe your conspiracy theories, no one is stopping you. However Deano, you seem to pick up new beliefs like a bad habit. Surely you see how contradictory it is to call everyone blind, sheep and controlled when you more or less believe any conspiracy theory you read.

Like I said before, believing nothing is almost as stupid as believing anything and if you truly believe that by sitting on your computer reading theories and pseudo-intellectual stories, you're somehow discovering things that the government doesn't want you to know, I suggest you re-evaluate your high-horse. Why? Because you have no right to be calling anyone anything resembling a sheep.

Most of what you post is available to read in conspiracy theorist books. Available on sale.

If it were as true and groundbreaking as you seem, it wouldn't be available for all the people to read.

Before you tell people to wake up, stop gulping down the ketamine yourself.

-AC

Originally posted by KidRock
Correct.

if kidrock agrees then it cant be right can it

And you call yourself a genius with rationale like that?

-AC

this has absolutley nothing wot do with the illuminati but i really need help with spanish. does anyone know spanish very well? really need help on this! thanks in advance. just send me a pm 😄

Originally posted by Deano
i understand that but i think the fbi agent had time to reply..if alex jones was saying all that stuff to me and i knew it was all lies then id react angrilly and i would tell him there and then what bullshit he is spewing

here is a link that says a former mi5 agent thinks it was an inside job
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm

And that is why you would suck at public interviews. You never show emotion, and never challenge the inquisitor.

An MI5 agent? Was he stationed at the World Trade Center? Was he working with the FBI, CIA, and Department of Defense at the time of the attack. Foreign agents, even allies, do not get access to internal documents of the US Government. His claim are purely speculation.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why is it so easy to?

If you wanna believe your conspiracy theories, no one is stopping you. However Deano, you seem to pick up new beliefs like a bad habit. Surely you see how contradictory it is to call everyone blind, sheep and controlled when you more or less believe any conspiracy theory you read.

Like I said before, believing nothing is almost as stupid as believing anything and if you truly believe that by sitting on your computer reading theories and pseudo-intellectual stories, you're somehow discovering things that the government doesn't want you to know, I suggest you re-evaluate your high-horse. Why? Because you have no right to be calling anyone anything resembling a sheep.

Most of what you post is available to read in conspiracy theorist books. Available on sale.

If it were as true and groundbreaking as you seem, it wouldn't be available for all the people to read.

Before you tell people to wake up, stop gulping down the ketamine yourself.

-AC

in the govermennt..information can slip out AC,
ive read rule by secrecy by jim marrs
worth checking out

Originally posted by Deano
ok you always ask for proof but you always accept lies given by the politicians without any demand for 'proof' and yet you insist on proof from anyone challenging the official version of reality. why is that?
as for the lizard theory..im not dismissing it or believing it...who am i to say whats real and whats not?..i can only put forth my opinion
i could put a pile of info which says that 9/11 was an inside job..and i could put a pile of info which says the opposite, it is up to you what you believe, its up to you to look up and make up your own mind without keep asking for proof, what feels right to you?

You have yet to provide proof for your claims. You provide opinion of others. There is no research into the claims they are making. Truth is not based on belief, it's based on facts.

round and round we go

since we're going round and round in an endless discussion...

does anyone know spanish very well?

nope, english is all u need to know

i need help on these translations. do u know anyone on kmc that knows spanish very well
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Like Deano said, why don't you sheople ever demand proof for stuff said that makes the official line yet when it comes to anything that goes against it, it's "i want proof, i want proof". Delusional fools.

Haven't any of you the two ****ing brain cells needed to get it yet?

Rockefellers control you're media networks

Rockefeller = Illuminati bloodline

Illuminati = One's who have the New World Order agenda

New World Order agenda requires incidents like 9/11 for it's implementation.

Get it?

And by the way Oswald, the WTC was built to withstand direct impacts from ATLEAST two full-sized commercial airliners and not some private single-manned aircraft as you tried to imply those weeks ago.

And instead of demanding we spend the rest of the night trying to find the part of some random video file or abstract from a document that tells of all the firemen that heard and felt multiple blasts from below their feet when they were in and around the WTC, why don't you demand proof for the ridiculously poor official version which has been absolutely blasted into pieces time after time after time by experts? Ohh yeah, it's becuase your like everyone else - a dumb sheople who just follows the one infront without question.

A big reg flag for Illuminati control of the media is not only the fact that it is all monopilied by the Rockefellars but is why does anything that backs up the official version of events get reported but anything that could weaken it never does? Think about that very simple little fact and then contenplate on why you don't believe in "conspiracies".

just watch the Alex Jones 3 part videos. lot of good stuff in that.

off topic: does anyone know spanish very well? 😄 really need help on this.

Originally posted by Dr. Octagon
i need help on these translations. do u know anyone on kmc that knows spanish very well
?

go on google and look for english to spanish translators