VENOM vs. WOLVERINE (the scans) /and general wolverine misconceptions...

Originally posted by jinzin
...you can keep responding to my posts if you wish..but understand that they fall upon blind eyes...congrats...you're the first and only person to ever be put onto ignore by yours truly....goodbye...

Because it's a bit childish. Debating fictional comic characters is childish enough... but let's at least try to debate as adults, even though not all members are grown ups.

Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you have given up the fight. You ARE a Wolverine fan, but there's nothing wrong with that. He is a cool character after all, without him Marvel would be much more boring.

I on the other hand am a Spider-Man fan, not only because he has a great personality, but also because his powers are much more consistent than Wolverines. Every hero has had of course his share of bad writing, and Spider-Man is no exception. I can admit that.

But I think 90 % of the objective Marvel readers consider Wolverines stats as very unreliable. It isn't difficult to show us scans from his best fights, but you know as well as I do, that he has had his share of embarrassing losses too.

I am not attacking you, Jinzin, just trying to understand CM's point.

Originally posted by Creshosk
"There's too much evidence to say 'it can't hurt him.' " is a complete thought.

Right here:

Ssshhh... don't talk, young patoowan. 😛
He said that there is too much evidence saying that a blade wouldn't hurt Venom, when it should. Now, unno if you only responded to my post for lack of a Cbo post to bash, so please, just don't respond to what I hacve to say. You are clearly trying for a fight.
He said the the evidence pointed against what he was saying. Clear. Simple. Ain't it, sonny?
And I didn't call anyoone stupidm mod. I used the word stupid, but I was kidding. Noone complained about being called silly, did they? If I wanted to call him stupid, I would have just called him stupid 'Jinzin, you are stpid' like that lol. Okay? No dis.
Oh, man! I am sure happy Who and Spranky are around. You guys always make me happy 😄 (damn, that sounds gay...)
Oh, and Venom would win, just like Ock and the ant that just crawled on my leg

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Ssshhh... don't talk, young patoowan. 😛
He said that there is too much evidence saying that a blade wouldn't hurt Venom, when it should.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Now, unno if you only responded to my post for lack of a Cbo post to bash, so please, just don't respond to what I hacve to say. You are clearly trying for a fight.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
He said the the evidence pointed against what he was saying. Clear. Simple. Ain't it, sonny?

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
And I didn't call anyoone stupidm mod. I used the word stupid, but I was kidding. Noone complained about being called silly, did they?

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
If I wanted to call him stupid, I would have just called him stupid 'Jinzin, you are stpid' like that lol. Okay? No dis.

You obviously don't have a very strong grasp of the English language, if you think that the only way to insult someone is to use their name.

Again: Leave me and my posts alone. Also, if I really cared about what you have to say about my grammar, I'd point out that one: Jinny really did say that there is too much evidence on the 'wrong' side of the road, the side infected with venom. Or maybe I'd point out that I never said that calling someone straight out stupid was the only way to do it. I said I would have said it that way if I wanted to do it at all. k? So, once again, you have to use insults to get a point accross... of coarse, your point isn't good... or even valid. Oh, and if I were to just say stupid, am I insulting anyone? No. Bu If I were to ake it clear whom I was addressing, then I would be hurting feelings. You do need to make it clear that you are calling some one stupid to do so properly. How do you know I wasn't referring to you? (although I was refering to noone, I speak on arguementel terms) And also, I don't care how many people think they saw what htey saw. A hundred some years ago, people in the Western World ALL thought the world was flat. All the people thought that. One guy showed them another way to think, who was right? The many, cuz they're many, or the one, cuz he's right? hmm... get my drift, Cresh?
Venom vs Spidey is evened out to brawn vs brains. They're even in all areas except strength, venom's area, and intelligence, where Spidey wins. Now, Brawn loses to smarts.
Wolverine is not as strong, nor is he smarter, so... how does he expect to win? Venom is not just gonna stand there and get cut, if he even can get cut, I don't know. He may not have as clear a victory as others, but he does out wrestle Logan after a short while.

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm going to ask you to please not reffer to me as stupid....my comparison was thought up with the premise of using a bullet proof vest as an example since the same concept applies there as well....I CAN post pics of venom and other symbiotes getting stabbed and screaming...that venom fight in south america..he didn't seem too happy about it when he was running away to nurse his wounds....there's just too much evidence to say a blade can't hurt him when it definitely does.

hmmmm I don't think you understood what it is that I said...

okay lets revise... you keep saying a blade can't hurt him....my point..there's too much evidence of a blade doing exactly that...HURTING HIM....to say that it won't.....there better?

and I realize venom isn't a bullet proof vest..it's the concept that's important....the concept man...

Originally posted by who?-kid
I think it's a bit sad to put members on ignore, don't you ? I debated with most members here - I think - but I would [b]never put somebody on ignore.

Because it's a bit childish. Debating fictional comic characters is childish enough... but let's at least try to debate as adults, even though not all members are grown ups.

Don't get me wrong, but it seems like you have given up the fight. You ARE a Wolverine fan, but there's nothing wrong with that. He is a cool character after all, without him Marvel would be much more boring.

I on the other hand am a Spider-Man fan, not only because he has a great personality, but also because his powers are much more consistent than Wolverines. Every hero has had of course his share of bad writing, and Spider-Man is no exception. I can admit that.

But I think 90 % of the objective Marvel readers consider Wolverines stats as very unreliable. It isn't difficult to show us scans from his best fights, but you know as well as I do, that he has had his share of embarrassing losses too.

I am not attacking you, Jinzin, just trying to understand CM's point. [/B]

see I understand the win loss thing...but when a character does something MULTIPLE times eventually you have to accept that it's a part of the characters abilities...

well maybe YOU GUYS don't and never will...but that's the problem...see you who-kid I got some respect for you you make a point you defend the point and you stick to that point...you don't insult members or constantly berate them about irrelevant issues......and I have loads of respect for most of the spiderman fans...I don't mind enjoying intelligent debates about this stuff...but man...the "C" master... he constantly insults, instigates, and fabricates....what's more childish? putting him on ignore to keep from getting involved in an altercation? ooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrr bickering with him every day all day until it reaches a climax and we really start throwing insults?

meh, believe what you will it matters not to me...

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Again: Leave me and my posts alone. Also, if I really cared about what you have to say about my grammar, I'd point out that one: Jinny really did say that there is too much evidence on the 'wrong' side of the road, the side infected with venom. Or maybe I'd point out that I never said that calling someone straight out stupid was the only way to do it. I said I would have said it that way if I wanted to do it at all. k? So, once again, you have to use insults to get a point accross... of coarse, your point isn't good... or even valid. Oh, and if I were to just say stupid, am I insulting anyone? No. Bu If I were to ake it clear whom I was addressing, then I would be hurting feelings. You do need to make it clear that you are calling some one stupid to do so properly. How do you know I wasn't referring to you? (although I was refering to noone, I speak on arguementel terms) And also, I don't care how many people think they saw what htey saw. A hundred some years ago, people in the Western World ALL thought the world was flat. All the people thought that. One guy showed them another way to think, who was right? The many, cuz they're many, or the one, cuz he's right? hmm... get my drift, Cresh?
Venom vs Spidey is evened out to brawn vs brains. They're even in all areas except strength, venom's area, and intelligence, where Spidey wins. Now, Brawn loses to smarts.
Wolverine is not as strong, nor is he smarter, so... how does he expect to win? Venom is not just gonna stand there and get cut, if he even can get cut, I don't know. He may not have as clear a victory as others, but he does out wrestle Logan after a short while.

dude it was pretty damn clear whom that stupid comment was directed too...hey I got no beef with you, I forgive you, it's cool...but don't sit there and say you didn't say what you said...just own up to it..it's gonna be alright..

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Again: Leave me and my posts alone.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Also, if I really cared about what you have to say about my grammar, I'd point out that one: Jinny really did say that there is too much evidence on the 'wrong' side of the road, the side infected with venom.

Originally posted by jinzin
there's just too much evidence to say a blade can't hurt him when it definitely does.

Originally posted by jinzin
there's just too much evidence to say "a blade can't hurt him" when it definitely does.

Originally posted by jinzin
there's just too much evidence to say a blade can't hurt him, when it definitely does.

Does that help at all? all I did was add the quotes to point out what the phrase was.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Or maybe I'd point out that I never said that calling someone straight out stupid was the only way to do it.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
I said I would have said it that way if I wanted to do it at all. k?

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
So, once again, you have to use insults to get a point accross...

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
of coarse, your point isn't good... or even valid.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Oh, and if I were to just say stupid, am I insulting anyone? No.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Bu If I were to ake it clear whom I was addressing, then I would be hurting feelings.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Or maybe I'd point out that I never said that calling someone straight out stupid was the only way to do it.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
You do need to make it clear that you are calling some one stupid to do so properly.

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
How do you know I wasn't referring to you? (although I was refering to noone, I speak on arguementel terms) And also, I don't care how many people think they saw what htey saw. A hundred some years ago, people in the Western World ALL thought the world was flat. All the people thought that. One guy showed them another way to think, who was right? The many, cuz they're many, or the one, cuz he's right? hmm... get my drift, Cresh?

Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Wolverine is not as strong, nor is he smarter, so... how does he expect to win? Venom is not just gonna stand there and get cut, if he even can get cut, I don't know.

What are you basing your argument on? You are obviously not familiar enough with either character to draw any conclusions.

You don't know if Venom can be cut, yet you claim that he can't just to make Wolverine lose?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I like C-Master, he keeps things interesting around here...

Anyway... most street level MAs has faster then sound reflexes, they all dodge and block bullets (with swords/claws/bo-staffs/sais), feats that would need reflexes that break the sound barrier.

I'm glad someone sees that I'm not as bad as they are making it seem.

Originally posted by jinzin
see I understand the win loss thing...but when a character does something MULTIPLE times eventually you have to accept that it's a part of the characters abilities...

well maybe YOU GUYS don't and never will...but that's the problem...see you who-kid I got some respect for you you make a point you defend the point and you stick to that point...you don't insult members or constantly berate them about irrelevant issues......and I have loads of respect for most of the spiderman fans...I don't mind enjoying intelligent debates about this stuff...but man...the "C" master... he constantly insults, instigates, and fabricates....what's more childish? putting him on ignore to keep from getting involved in an altercation? ooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrr bickering with him every day all day until it reaches a climax and we really start throwing insults?

meh, believe what you will it matters not to me...

Oh bull, don't even start that crap.

I didn't insult you in that last long assed post, thats what YOU do.

I can debate with guys like demi, never, and gs and do fine.

Then guys like you start calling me gay, you insult newjak86, you CONSTANTLY make smartass remarks, I tried to get along with you time and time again, and YOU take things too seriously.

Face it, you guys just have something against me. I know what that something is. You hate being HUMILIATED by me, and my posts, but thats all good.

Me and LOD agreed, and you go and insult my posts.

" Your posts are always bullshit, yadda yadda yadda"

Don't get me started on cresh and merc, who are as inflammatory as can be.

Insults on race and everything, but I persisted, and got you guys to give up.

Don't act holier than thou, because most people agree with me anyways.

Its funny how I can go on various forums, to the most offensive threads, concerning race and everything, and get along fine.

I come here, and there is always some wolveridiot, on starting stuff.

You can cover your ears all you want, and go "lala laA, but I know you are reading my posts, or else there wouldn't be mods all over the place.

Its the same assed people, logan87, pointinel, cresh, merc, and YOU.

Intelligent debates, you are VERY biased towards wolverine plain and simple.

You go and say wolverine beats 100 xenomorphs, and expect NOT to lose your credibiltiy, please.

And as for instigate, I'm the center of the problems, remember.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I have not used insults, I've made observations.

Naturally you would think not because it opposes your point of veiw.

When talking to some one, just saying stupid is insulting them.

You have made INSTIGATIONS, and followed around, jumping on things that don't concern you.
And you've called many a person a fanboy, but now you want to report a mod?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes, that's ad populem. But it still does not change facts of the matter in this case. As this is not a scientific quandry but a semantic one.

Comic's are ad sales, whats your point? You can use jargon all you want, but you still haven't said how wolverine would win...

Originally posted by Creshosk
So why are you even in this thread if you don't know the facts of the matter?

What are you basing your argument on? You are obviously not familiar enough with either character to draw any conclusions.

You don't know if Venom can be cut, yet you claim that he can't just to make Wolverine lose?

Another tactic, only CERTAIN people around here know the facts, and surprise surprise, they all go for wolverine.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
You'r implying this again.

but now you want to report a mod?

Maybe he wants to get you banned 😕

Originally posted by PimpXMaster
Maybe he wants to get you banned 😕

The more an opponent hates you (in their case), its a GOOD thing.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Exactly, the fact that they have tried their damnedest to get rid of me, just shows how much I've been on their posts.

The more an opponent hates you (in their case), its a GOOD thing.

Whos they ?

Originally posted by PimpXMaster
Maybe he wants to get you banned 😕

okay... you really are very too aggresive, man. righto, you said, flat out, that I don't understand english. Not an insult? No, fine. Nor is using that word stupid, otherwise you just insulted me, didn't you 😛
And I admit that I don't know wether or not the claws would slice through Venom. So? I don't know one thing about the whole matter, and that's because I never saw it happen. I don't foolow Venom much, I only know the Spidey vs Venom stuff.
And I could respect your oppinions without agreeing with them. I do agree with some peoples opinions around here, but not yours. You are provokotive and mean, I don't like you.
Allright, whatever, I don't really care wha you htink, I'm not gonna reply to you again.

Jin, I dunno if we've ever ran into each other before, but if we have you might know that I don't stand and contradict my opinions or my own word. If I meant to call you stupid, I would have made it clear. That's the only reason I keep arguing this.

Originally posted by PimpXMaster
Whos they ?

Originally posted by Creshosk
I've tonned myself down. I would like for him to do the same. I don't want anyone banned, but the animosity is ridiculous.

How would you know that, if I'm on your ignore list?

Originally posted by Creshosk
I've tonned myself down. I would like for him to do the same. I don't want anyone banned, but the animosity is ridiculous.

True but
If the insanity keeps up, one of you are going to get Banned...well atleast there will be no more argueing, since one of you will never see KMC again in there life, because they are Banned...and no one Wants that 🙁

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
5 or so people...

5...thats more than 1. List who, or PM me. 5...thats alot.