Originally posted by Creshosk
Then wouldn't the stabbing of the claws not be brute force?Bullets pierce, they don't crush.
Claws slash or pierce. It's the same premise of application of force over a smaller area produces a greater force.Would a katana be considered brute force?
[B]What would you define as "brute force"?
Bullets and blades and hammers are all physical force. . . what makes something "brute"? [/B]
Physical strength neccasary to cause damage.
Piercing and stabbing are 2 seperate things, although similiar. Just like a slap and a palm strike are 2 seperate things, despite both being hits with the open part of my palm.
Also, I seem to be the only one who likes Cord 😛 Although I'm also the only other non-Wolverine Fanboy here besides him it seems...
Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Physical strength neccasary to cause damage.Piercing and stabbing are 2 seperate things, although similiar. Just like a slap and a palm strike are 2 seperate things, despite both being hits with the open part of my palm.
Also, I seem to be the only one who likes Cord 😛 Although I'm also the only other non-Wolverine Fanboy here besides him it seems...
No, you aren't the only one that likes me...
Go check "most significant members", and the off topic thread, I got friends a plenty around here.
They hate me because I pop the shit out of their arguments.
You see he is struggling to show you what proificiency is...
Let me put up some links, of the terrible posts, they call "posts".
They are fanboys, I am a fanboy slayer, its that simple...
Go check wolverine vs carnage, jinzin thinks wolverine beats him.
Go check wolverine vs metallo, wolverine thinks he can beat a superman level character.
Srank thinks wolverine beats godzilla.\
Cresh thinks wolverine rivals hulk
Jinzin ALSO thinks wolverine owns namor, and catches odin.
They don't know what PIS/CIS is when it comes to wolverine, and they try to post up shit regardless, and think you won't call them on it.
Too bad.
Originally posted by MuffinmanMikeIs greatly reduced when the physical force is focused over a smaller point as in a slashing/cutting impliment, and treduced further over an even more focused point such as a stabbing point.
Physical strength neccasary to cause damage.
Originally posted by MuffinmanMikeand both are different from crushing/bludgening blows.
Piercing and stabbing are 2 seperate things, although similiar. Just like a slap and a palm strike are 2 seperate things, despite both being hits with the open part of my palm.
A bullet strike and a stab with the claws are both physically peircing. Less force is needed than a blunt bludgenoning blow.
Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Also, I seem to be the only one who likes Cord 😛 Although I'm also the only other non-Wolverine Fanboy here besides him it seems...
By "non-wolverine fanboy", you mean that "you haven't read any of wolverine's books so are basing your opinion of what he can and cannot do off of your own personal tastes and opinions formulated from what you've heard other people say"?
Or are you saying that anyone that has read and is therefore more familiar with Wolverine's feats, is a fanboy?
Have you even read Wolverine's books?
Originally posted by Creshosk
By "non-wolverine fanboy", you mean that "you haven't read any of wolverine's books so are basing your opinion of what he can and cannot do off of your own personal tastes and opinions formulated from what you've heard other people say"?Or are you saying that anyone that has read and is therefore more familiar with Wolverine's feats, is a fanboy?
Have you even read Wolverine's books?
False dilemma, what he is saying by fanboy, is a person who exaggerates his feats, to the point where it is absurd, and doesn't use ANY logic in his post.
Here are some of their ideas muffinman, if you disagree with them, they are going to think you don't read wolverine. Whatever.
"Wolverine is faster than sound"
"Wolverine CANNOT be hurt by spiderman"
"Wolverine can outmusle spiderman's webbing"
" Wolverine is FASTER than spiderman"
" Wolverine doesn't need leverage"
" Wolverine can do a situp under 10ton force"
" Wolverine can jump 50 feet right into the air"
"Wolverine can use "jungle tactics" to win."
I had to add this one, "Batman hits harder than spiderman"
"Wolverine hits harder than spiderman"
" Wolverine can break his way out of webbing, by using his "claws" that are pointed towards his head."
" Wolverine can beat ANY brawler"
" Wolverine can break strong handcuffs, without the necessary leverage."
" Wolverine can climb up godzilla and stab him in the brain."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Wolverine fanboys are the most ridiculous of the bunch, and say stupid stuff.
Don't worry about cresh, its not like he explains anything, or gets around to answering a question.
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Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Bullets aren't brute force.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Then wouldn't the stabbing of the claws not be brute force?Bullets pierce, they don't crush.
Claws slash or pierce. It's the same premise of application of force over a smaller area produces a greater force.Would a katana be considered brute force?
What would you define as "brute force"?
Bullets and blades and hammers are all physical force. . . what makes something "brute"?
lol..in any case...it follows the same principle as the bullet proof vest....I know you can understand that concept...so what exactly are you trying to argue here.....? 🤨
from what we've seen...venom shruggs off shotgun blasts, machine gun fire, and class 100+ punches...but a blade goes right through that symbiote pretty handily...are you still trying to argue that it can't?...there's been multitudes of evidence to suggest otherwise.....so where does your premise come from?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Is greatly reduced when the physical force is focused over a smaller point as in a slashing/cutting impliment, and treduced further over an even more focused point such as a stabbing point.and both are different from crushing/bludgening blows.
A bullet strike and a stab with the claws are both physically peircing. Less force is needed than a blunt bludgenoning blow.
By "non-wolverine fanboy", you mean that "you haven't read any of wolverine's books so are basing your opinion of what he can and cannot do off of your own personal tastes and opinions formulated from what you've heard other people say"?
Or are you saying that anyone that has read and is therefore more familiar with Wolverine's feats, is a fanboy?
Have you even read Wolverine's books?
wow..that's just about the best damned description thus far....
Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Physical strength neccasary to cause damage.Piercing and stabbing are 2 seperate things, although similiar. Just like a slap and a palm strike are 2 seperate things, despite both being hits with the open part of my palm.
Also, I seem to be the only one who likes Cord 😛 Although I'm also the only other non-Wolverine Fanboy here besides him it seems...
Don't inslt me. Please, don't. Go back like, three pages and read all th way down and you'll see that you're wrong, OK? And for thge record, Cbo is my boy. Oh, and its done like this, sone 😛 with a lower case P. 😛 wrong 😛 right.
And yea guys, mod lady is right. Noone here is a fanboy *cough* just some are slower than others... (only explanation I could come up with... lol)
Oh, and Jin, I know this guy... he was shot once, in a gang thing... he went to the hospital with a gun wound and they used this thing to sck the bullet out of him. Now, I figure I'd better explain this to you. If he was shot, and they had to take out the bullet. This means that the bullet was once inside him, no? (yes, silly!! 😄) Now, that means it went through his skin (and bone), which means it cut through that skin and bone. Just like what other thing would?? ... A knife, stupid! Now, what does wolverine use as base weapons? Six knives!! My goodness!! I only just realised that!! haha! So... if we can compare knives to bullets like that (which we actually can't, but we will, since you did), we can see that either a knife is brute force, and will hence be 'shrugged off' or a bullet is brute force... but we've already prooven that it's not brute force, since it slices through things, which is what makes knives ... wha are we calling it? lethal force? ok, fine. lethal force. so... there you have it boys and girls!!: you must be wrong!! haha!! No, no, please it was nothing, really no autographs!! You're right! I am sexy. So... does Venom just shrug off the blades? obviously n... wait he just might... Did any of your scans show him being actually hurt? crying? maybe, I actuall don't know and I won't check 😛
I'm going to ask you to please not reffer to me as stupid....my comparison was thought up with the premise of using a bullet proof vest as an example since the same concept applies there as well....I CAN post pics of venom and other symbiotes getting stabbed and screaming...that venom fight in south america..he didn't seem too happy about it when he was running away to nurse his wounds....there's just too much evidence to say a blade can't hurt him when it definitely does.
I'm sorry... too much evidence to say a can't hurt him when it obviously does ???????????? Either you just prooved my point, or you made a mistake. Please correct that, or have you come to your sense??
Any other fights?? Cuz I'm sorry, but one out of... how many? More than two, anyhow... is not enough. I'm helping you here, son.I'm basically asking you to proove your own point. I'm guiding you, so... well! Just dont tell cbo!! lol Anyhoo.. anymore examples?
And I probably just don't get it, but why would a bullet proof vest apply? Venom is not a vest, man lol Wolverine might actually, with a little stategy ahead of time an if he kept his head on straight, beat a vest, no matter how bullet proof. 😛
And I didn't call you, or anyone else stupid. You only take it like that because you are under fire already. You probably even realised that you were wrong a while ago, but are either too proud, or too anti-C to admit it and move on. I feel that. Well... he's off at lunch or something... so come on. You know it will feel good. In fact, since he will probably come back eventually, just PM it to me. I don't know how to quote a pm into a post, so you're safe. 😄 thikn about my offer, an ahh... call me 😉
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
I'm sorry... too much evidence to say a can't hurt him when it obviously does ???????????? Either you just prooved my point, or you made a mistake. Please correct that, or have you come to your sense??
"There's too much evidence to say 'it can't hurt him.' " is a complete thought.
Originally posted by Lord-of-DreamsRight here:
And I didn't call you, or anyone else stupid.
Originally posted by Lord-of-Dreams
Now, that means it went through his skin (and bone), which means it cut through that skin and bone. Just like what other thing would?? ... A knife, stupid!