<<You can find plenty of poor showings for any character.>>
so why aren't they equally relevent when used as counterpoints to the good showings? if someone (and i'm not speaking strictly of wolvie here) were to post a bunch of these 'poor showings' the first thing that would be claimed by wolvie defenders is that they are PIS/CIS. if you show the best, you gotta accept the worst and realize the true character is likely in NEITHER of those places but somewhere between.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<You can find plenty of poor showings for any character.>>so why aren't they equally relevent when used as counterpoints to the good showings? if someone (and i'm not speaking strictly of wolvie here) were to post a bunch of these 'poor showings' the first thing that would be claimed by wolvie defenders is that they are PIS/CIS. if you show the best, you gotta accept the worst and realize the true character is likely in NEITHER of those places but somewhere between.
Thank you jeezus!!!!
reason..
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's something we say alot. It's suprising how often it's revealed that the people doing the accusing of being fanboys admit to not reading the comics that the "fanboys" do.Which leads me to ask, am I a fanboy for knowing more about the character and supporting him in things he has done before?
I mean if I were to argue spiderman being able to lift 15 tons to a group that hadn't read the issues during and after he got an upgrade, would that group call me a fanboy of spiderman for saying that he can do more than he "can"?
No, what you do is worse, you guys post a bunch of SHIT that is out of his league, and make up stories.
Examples of some of their arguments.
"Wolverine is faster than the speed of sound"
" Muscles work by pushing not pulling"
" wolverine can't die"
" wolverine heals BEFORE the damage is delivered."
" wolverine can't die."
" Wolverine can't be knocked out by characters like colossus and thing."
" Wolverine is faster than spiderman"
" Wolverine has superhuman strength"
"Wolverine can jump 50 feet in the air."
" Leverage doesn't affect wolverine"
" Inertia doesn't affect wolverine."
" You MUST be faster than something to dodge it."
" It happened, just accept it."
" wolverine is cool and the best at what he does."
" Wolverine beat x so he beats xxx"
You then CONFRONT them on these subjects, and then they tangent, and call everyone "WOLVERINE HATERS"
Each and every single one of them.
Originally posted by leonidasBecause most of the time they are tried to be raised but are discarded anyway.
<<You can find plenty of poor showings for any character.>>so why aren't they equally relevent when used as counterpoints to the good showings?
Originally posted by leonidasFor wolverine they are attempted to be explained. But the explinations are discarded as well.
if someone (and i'm not speaking strictly of wolvie here) were to post a bunch of these 'poor showings' the first thing that would be claimed by wolvie defenders is that they are PIS/CIS.
Originally posted by leonidasBut characters also have showings that should be obviously ridiculous. But when finding the medium the anti- people seem to give more power to the negative showings to bring the person down further than the character regularly shows in the comics they regularly show up in.
if you show the best, you gotta accept the worst and realize the true character is likely in NEITHER of those places but somewhere between.
Spiderman has Firelord on a high end, and being hit by a casually lobbed bomb as a low point.
Batman has taking shots from superman in a high end and being beaten up by a bunch of people that are "blind" as a low end.
Wolverine has taking shots from Namor on his high end and BEing laid up for weeks from a simple stab on a low end.
These seem to be some of the characters that are under hot debate, and as you can see they both have high and lows for preformences that they shouldn't be able to accomplish.
cordera truly, I'm not trying to hype wolverine up but damn man, there really was no need to participate in the thread if you have nothing positive to contribute, again....this was at other people's request.....no need to come here and blantently insult people for no reason at all... bad form...........bad form indeed.
Originally posted by jinzin
cordera truly, I'm not trying to hype wolverine up but damn man, there really was no need to participate in the thread if you have nothing positive to contribute, again....this was at other people's request.....no need to come here and blantently insult people for no reason at all... bad form...........bad form indeed.
I know what you were doing, it wasn't aimed at you, this was between you and brainchild.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<You can find plenty of poor showings for any character.>>so why aren't they equally relevent when used as counterpoints to the good showings? if someone (and i'm not speaking strictly of wolvie here) were to post a bunch of these 'poor showings' the first thing that would be claimed by wolvie defenders is that they are PIS/CIS. if you show the best, you gotta accept the worst and realize the true character is likely in NEITHER of those places but somewhere between.
Most of the Wolverine feats brought up are established in the comics. If Wolverine had only taken half a dozen 100 hits and kept coming the we could say "this is an example of PIS," but as it stands he has dozens of examples of this. The same can be said for is strength, speed and even the standard showings of his healing factor. After so many showings, you need to except that it is part of his character.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Most of the Wolverine feats brought up are established in the comics. If Wolverine had only taken half a dozen 100 hits and kept coming the we could say "this is an example of PIS," but as it stands he has dozens of examples of this. The same can be said for is strength, speed and even the standard showings of his healing factor. After so many showings, you need to except that it is part of his character.
That makes sense, but alot of these happen for story arc too...
Like the healing factor is usually suited to the writers needs, if you see where I'm coming from, like bats toolbelt.