VENOM vs. WOLVERINE (the scans) /and general wolverine misconceptions...

Started by Darkstorm Zero41 pages

And that my friend isthe million dollar question, in my mind, debates need mediators from problems exactly like this.

But mysecond theory is to reach common ground, decidefrom the start whats good and whats bad and go from there.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Why should one who has read too many, and has an obvious bias decide?

you dind;t answer his question...but defending a character to do things he's proven he could do really isn't biased... at least we can back up our claims...

wow..that's not a bad idea...could drop the amount of fighting dramatically..

Originally posted by jinzin
the thing is half of those so called showings are game endings which don't coincide with the canon material...in th canon material he has trouble with balrog...big difference there.

No, uh try again.

This is why sf debates are bad.

Some say games ARE canon, some say they aren't, some read the bios, some go off of the movies, etc.

Go to " versus fanboy test.", we've been over this with demi.

He said that 2nd strike was canon, and third wasn't.

Again, I don't think the game endings were that usable, and wasn't going off of them, you must be referring to akuma there.

The games have the up to date storyline..

Its confusing.

Originally posted by jinzin
you dind;t answer his question...but defending a character to do things he's proven he could do really isn't biased... at least we can back up our claims...

I answered it none the less.

He did it, isn't a good argument, there has to be logic parameters in a debate.

Back up, with a showing or biased pics, that equals good debating to some.

I posted several things you guys regurlarly say that don't make sense.

when debating ryu, I use an amalgam of all his showings, games comics, mangas, doshin, and animes...his strongest incarnation thus far was in alpha the movie...

Originally posted by jinzin
you dind;t answer his question...but defending a character to do things he's proven he could do really isn't biased... at least we can back up our claims...
Did he just say someone with less knowledge has a better understanding of a character?

Ok, so what i'm getting basically is thatyou guys don't trust eachother to debate fairly, am I right?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I answered it none the less.

He did it, isn't a good argument, there has to be logic parameters in a debate.

Back up, with a showing or biased pics, that equals good debating to some.

I posted several things you guys regurlarly say that don't make sense.

you're missing the point...I can back up the claim that wolverine can take class 100 shots because I have a plethora of books where he's done it...

you say that he's getting beat up and KOed by people at street levels, but you can't back up how because you don't know.

you're making the same mistake whob did...my argument is not "he did it"

it's "he's done it....................ALOT, therefore we must accept it as part of his character" just like what srank was reffering to.

Originally posted by jinzin
when debating ryu, I use an amalgam of all his showings, games comics, mangas, doshin, and animes...his strongest incarnation thus far was in alpha the movie...

Thats why its hard to debate, because thats what I tried to do.

Demi said comics, and then he said "canon".

A little of everything is canon.

Discuss it on versus games, people understand it.

The problem is that people on this forum don't really know who ryu is, and just defend their character.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did he just say someone with less knowledge has a better understanding of a character?

NO...

Originally posted by Creshosk
Did he just say someone with less knowledge has a better understanding of a character?

yes, that's basically what it equates to...this is why I find his claims on PIS/CIS to be odd...how would he know? how does he know what's consistant or not for wolverine...he's just going off other people's arguments and picking up what he likes to hear....

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, so what i'm getting basically is thatyou guys don't trust eachother to debate fairly, am I right?
No, I don't trust him to debate fairly.

Originally posted by jinzin
you're missing the point...I can back up the claim that wolverine can take class 100 shots because I have a plethora of books where he's done it...

you say that he's getting beat up and KOed by people at street levels, but you can't back up how because you don't know.

you're making the same mistake whob did...my argument is not "he did it"

it's "he's done it....................ALOT, therefore we must accept it as part of his character" just like what srank was reffering to.

I understand that, did I question that he ever fought this and that?

Same with precog.

You cannot GAUGE those hits, just like when you said batman can ROLL out of certain hits, etc etc.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, so what i'm getting basically is thatyou guys don't trust eachother to debate fairly, am I right?

nobody trusts me that's for damned sure...I mean hell I post fights from beginning to end but don't trust jinzin his scans are biased...lol.

Originally posted by Creshosk
No, I don't trust him to debate fairly.

I don't need to cheat to put you down, you on the otherhand, tried to say wolverine was faster than spiderman.

I don't make these piece of shit arguments.

I don't mind feats, but use logic.

Originally posted by jinzin
nobody trusts me that's for damned sure...I mean hell I post fights from beginning to end but don't trust jinzin his scans are biased...lol.

Yep, tis because of a certain LOVE.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, so what i'm getting basically is thatyou guys don't trust eachother to debate fairly, am I right?

How's the ELITES vs PREDATORS going?

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I understand that, did I question that he ever fought this and that?

Same with precog.

You cannot GAUGE those hits, just like when you said batman can ROLL out of certain hits, etc etc.

actually I can...we already equated speed to power...if a character is at a strength class of ten and hits bats with the intention to kill and he claims that he'd be splattered if not for his skill, it becomes easier to gauge.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
I don't need to cheat to put you down, you on the otherhand, tried to say wolverine was faster than spiderman.

I don't make these piece of shit arguments.

I don't mind feats, but use logic.

who ever said that? 🤨