Originally posted by jinzin
vastly more easily said than done my friend....not to say you're wrong as you're 100% correct...but that's more contingent upon the people debating here.....oh well....
Actually, if it was in the rules...
Ah well, It's really just a question of common sense more than effort...
Originally posted by jinzin
cause when you have a strength level at 100+ moving fast is all you need to do to cause impact...again...you're ignoring the damage that was done to everything batman got hit into...there's something to be said for leaving craters in stone and getting up from that.
Also this is batmyth here, these are done to make things look interesting, notice how flash gets hit more, or whatever hits him hurts him LESS than guys like supes?
Its like wrestling, popularity dictates.
Originally posted by jinzin
again...why do YOU decide what he does and doesn't get to use..
Why do you get to decide otherwise, stop pulling straws.
Batman gets batmobile, etc. Is just proof he can't hang with spiderman.
To top it off, bats suit isn't bulletproof to that degree.
Darkseid>>>>>>Bullet.
Nice try though.
Still don't use logic.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I think I see the problem with it, Cordera is arguing that Batman should only get what he uses commonly. What that is is beyond me though...
Yes, it should be addressed.
Like wolvies healing, bats toolbelt is a bunch of plot devices, and intangibles.
Thats why these matches go on so long, that and fanboys.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroIt's probably also beyond him if he doesn't read the comics to know what he commonly uses. I mean why should a perosn who knows nothing about a medium be a more valid source than someone that knows everything about that medium?
I think I see the problem with it, Cordera is arguing that Batman should only get what he uses commonly. What that is is beyond me though...
For example I wouldn't brooke anyone telling me that I don't know MY own characters better than another person.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's probably also beyond him if he doesn't read the comics to know what he commonly uses. I mean why should a perosn who knows nothing about a medium be a more valid source than someone that knows everything about that medium?For example I wouldn't brooke anyone telling me that I don't know MY own characters better than another person.
Are we nutswinging again, read previous post, and stop sounding so dumb.
Ok, So the solution is, what can Wolverine NORmally heal from under normal conditions/What does Bat's belt NORMALLY contain.
Everything else should be decided by the thread starter beforehand, or should be discussed before the actual debate commences.
EDIT: the people who KNOW these things should be able to post up the stats before the debate gets underway, so that those who do not Know, will then know what they are in for.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, So the solution is, what can Wolverine NORmally heal from under normal conditions/What does Bat's belt NORMALLY contain.Everything else should be decided by the thread starter beforehand, or should be discussed before the actual debate commences.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroBut those that do know get brushed off as fanboys for talking about things the others don't know about.
Ok, So the solution is, what can Wolverine NORmally heal from under normal conditions/What does Bat's belt NORMALLY contain.Everything else should be decided by the thread starter beforehand, or should be discussed before the actual debate commences.
EDIT: the people who KOW these things should be able to post up the stats before the debate gets underway, so that those who do not, then know what they are in for.
That's why I don't trust him. We've read the material, we know what's in it, but we are fanboys for knowing the material, while the people that don't know, are more credible than those that haven't?
Originally posted by Creshosk
But those that do know get brushed off as fanboys for talking about things the others don't know about.That's why I don't trust him. We've read the material, we know what's in it, but we are fanboys for knowing the material, while the people that don't know, are more credible than those that haven't?
No they don't you are just too damned lazy to make an ARGUMENT, and such, and you are ready to defensively pluck arguments, by doing little.
People who read too many, and have an obvious bias should not be trusted.
That is YOU.
You said wolverine is faster than spiderman, merc said batman hits harder than spiderman.
Fanboys.
If thats the case, call me the fanboy of shooting guns, or Street Fighter Video Games, or a number of adult situations...
Seriously though, you, as the avid readers of the comics, are better qualified to give out the knowlege BEFORE the debate starts, therefore your knowlege can be put to the best possable uses.
EDIT: people who collect all of Wolverines comics, may be fans of him, but that doesn't make their points any more or less validif it's backed up with proof.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroThat'd work in a perfect world. Around here I'm affraid that we ARE called fanboys.
If thats the case, call me the fanboy of shooting guns, or Street Fighter Video Games, or a number of adult situations...Seriously though, you, as the avid readers of the comics, are better qualified to give out the knowlege BEFORE the debate starts, therefore your knowlege can be put to the best possable uses.
That was sort of the point of this thread, to share what he does, but alas we were still called fanboys for doing it.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
If thats the case, call me the fanboy of shooting guns, or Street Fighter Video Games, or a number of adult situations...Seriously though, you, as the avid readers of the comics, are better qualified to give out the knowlege BEFORE the debate starts, therefore your knowlege can be put to the best possable uses.
EDIT: people who collect all of Wolverines comics, may be fans of him, but that doesn't make their points any more or less validif it's backed up with proof.
Its not the knowledge, do you see the fallacies of his points.
You have to be faster than something to dodge it.
Wolverine moves faster than spiderman.
Batman hits harder than spiderman.
I don't trust him because of his BIAS, not because of his fanboyishness.
There are many fanboys that are great debaters here, not him.
I am knowledgeable on my stuff, who is he to decide that he is?
You can read 1000 comics, but interpret them incorrectly.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That'd work in a perfect world. Around here I'm affraid that we ARE called fanboys.That was sort of the point of this thread, to share what he does, but alas we were still called fanboys for doing it.
This is what he does, and its ALL he does.
He shoots down peoples points, and goes around on a who hates xxx tangent.
In my oppinion, as long as you remain unbiased and objective to whatever debate happens to involve your favourite character/s then your oppinions remain valid no matter who labels you what.
LuffyJin earned his Fanboy status because of the rediculous way he defended Jin over at the Game Vs forum, That is the prime example of fanboyism IMO
I personally hate labels.... I bear no malice towards anybody