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Here's an impressive, but somewhat ambiguous, showing for Wolverine against bullets from Daredevil #249.
Wolverine manages to avoid getting shot from several bullets in the first panel and Daredevil is there saying he's dodging them but the way Logan is shown mainly charging forward and the fact that he gets shot two times later that same page could indicate that he wasn't literally bullet-dodging, but rather aim-dodging the shooter.
Originally posted by Priest
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Just a quick suggestion since I don't log on here much. I think some one should try and remake this thread since the first 30ish pages have barely any scans posting, has almost no structure and is more or less testosteronal pissing matches about who's more full of shit about defending fictional characters.
Just an outsider's opinion.
K, Thanx, Bai.
Originally posted by Accel
Here's an impressive, but somewhat ambiguous, showing for Wolverine against bullets from Daredevil #249.Wolverine manages to avoid getting shot from several bullets in the first panel and Daredevil is there saying he's dodging them but the way Logan is shown mainly charging forward and the fact that he gets shot two times later that same page could indicate that he wasn't literally bullet-dodging, but rather aim-dodging the shooter.
machine gun firer. No way he be dodging the shooters aim.
The there also the fac t when he was shot he was amazing closes.
Then theres also the fact it the artiest drawing not the writer. Writer clearly ment Logan was dodging the bullets.
Originally posted by Accel
But all he seems to be doing is charging forward. He's not making any obvious action to move right out of the path of each bullet.Even if you didn't believe he was literally dodging the aim of the gun, one could still argue it was mainly due to Bushwacker's incredibly bad aim there.
Againt the artiest. The writter intended him to be dodging the bullets, the writter does not controll how he draws the event.
also if you look he bending his uper body to dodge the bullets.
you don't have to be jumping around like spiderman or dd to dodge bullets. You can charge the shooter and still evdade the bullets.
Logan does not need to dodge the aim of the gun to dodge a bullet. Bushwacker has great aim so that is cearly not the cases. also The writer clearly intended that Logan was dodging the bullets or he would not of had DD state that Logan was dodging all the bullets
Not every thing is meant to be taken so literally though. Daredevil referring to Wolverine dodging bullets could just as easily be due to Logan just avoiding being shot altogether rather than actually dodging the bullets themselves. People do tend to confuse the two often.
And the art is all we really have to go by in order to judge the scenario for ourselves. It's how we manage to judge most encounters where a character really does react faster than a bullet.
Originally posted by Accel
Not every thing is meant to be taken so literally though. Daredevil referring to Wolverine dodging bullets could just as easily be due to Logan just avoiding being shot altogether rather than actually dodging the bullets themselves. People do tend to confuse the two often.
Originally posted by Accel
And the art is all we really have to go by in order to judge the scenario for ourselves. It's how we manage to judge most encounters where a character really does react faster than a bullet.
Context>>>>>>art.
What the writer states is far more important then the art is. The art matters, but there can be mistakes or simply not enough time to do it properly.
The writer clearly ment that Logan was dodging the bullets.
The scann shows Logan charging and twisting his body with the bullets missing him.
There really no debate, he was dodging the bullets.
and given the fact he been stated with hyper active reflex speed and been stated to view bullets in slow motion makes it well with in his power to achieve the feat.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
He clearlly states wolverines dodging all the bullets as a fact. If Logan was simply getting lucky he would have stated how badly bushwaker was aiming or how lucky wolverine was. DD radar senses allows him to see the bullets and the context clearly implied and stated as a fact that he was dodging them.
Wolverine’ s dodging all those bullets! Well, he’s not really dodging them, I guess. More like Bushwacker was missing him maybe. I wonder if he really was dodging each of those bullets. Can he do that? I wonder what I’ll have for dinner tonight? That French bread’s probably bad by no-
Oh, right I need to focus on Bushwacker.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
The scann shows Logan charging and twisting his body with the bullets missing him.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
There really no debate,
Bro...the artwork doesnt show everything. It shows Wolverine running towards Bushwacker, but since DD said he was dodging the bullets we can assume he was running and side stepping. Why would Bushwacker be a terrible aim when he has a bionic arm and is trained in firearms. 😬
Usually im against Battlehammer but you are taking the mick.
Originally posted by Accel
And again, not every thing is meant to be taken so literally. People mention bullet-dodging tons of times, but often that’s the case as those so-called moments of “bullet-dodging” were really moments of “aim-dodging” or “the shooter can’t hit the broad side of a barn.” It’s not like Matt’s going to use that split-second to correct his assertion.Wolverine’ s dodging all those bullets! Well, he’s not really dodging them, I guess. More like Bushwacker was missing him maybe. I wonder if he really was dodging each of those bullets. Can he do that? I wonder what I’ll have for dinner tonight? That French bread’s probably bad by no-
That may be true in some cases, but there is nothing to suggest it was not ment to be taken literally in this scenerio.
DD states it as a fact not a question nor with any doubt. Is DD prone to making falses statements? Nope.
how was that aim dodging? He was beeing shoot at with machine gun not single shots. He also was clearly implied to be dodging the bullets, nor does the author make any indications that he was not.
as for the bottum part, I not going to respond to a bunch of jibberish.
[i]Originally posted by Accel
It shows him charging forward ad the bullets missing. “Twisting” does not automatically active bullet-dodging.
It does when on that very pannel some one is stating that the person is dodging the bullets.
Originally posted by Accel
Yes, there is.
It not though.
First Wolverine has meta human reflex speed.
We have seen Logan cut bullets and objects as fast out of the air.
We have stated evidences that Logan views bullets in slow motion allowing him to dodge them.
We then have a scann in which DD states as a fact that wolverine is dodging all the bullets.
Then we see in the scann that he twisting his bodying and that the bullets are missing him.
SO we know he can dodging bullets, we know he sees them in a sort of slow motion. We know DD knows he dodging the bullets from context and we see the bullets missing his twisting body.
There really no debate. The context and pannel were clearlly suposes to show that Logan was dodging the bullets.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
It shows Wolverine running towards Bushwacker, but since DD said he was dodging the bullets we can assume he was running and side stepping.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Why would Bushwacker be a terrible aim when he has a bionic arm and is trained in firearms. 😬
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Bro...the artwork doesnt show everything. It shows Wolverine running towards Bushwacker, but since DD said he was dodging the bullets we can assume he was running and side stepping. Why would Bushwacker be a terrible aim when he has a bionic arm and is trained in firearms. 😬Usually im against Battlehammer but you are taking the mick.
agreed.
Originally posted by Accel
Is the term, hyperbole, that hard to get?Remember GI Joe? Those guys were trained soldiers and they couldn't hit any thing.
Hyperbole is when something is stated to have happen after it did such as sentry beating galactus. This is happening during the event and there no need for a hyperbole about a fact. Logan can and does dodge bullets.
............GI Joes hit there targets all the time...........guessing your not a fan of there comics.
