Respect Wolverine

Originally posted by Battlehammer
That may be true in some cases, but there is nothing to suggest it was not ment to be taken literally in this scenerio.

He then proceeds to get shot twice later on in the same page. So much for those "side-stepping abilities" of his helping him out there.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
DD states it as a fact not a question nor with any doubt. Is DD prone to making falses statements? Nope.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It does when on that very pannel some one is stating that the person is dodging the bullets.

I’ve seen Batman avoid gunfire that was supposedly him dodging the bullets, but was really him dodging the aim. I’ve seen Colossus get very close to getting shot when bullets whizzed right by just inches from his face. I’ve seen a group of ordinary, normal citizens manage to duck down just in time to avoid bullets flying by where they were just standing.

I don’t chalk any of those moments to bullet-timing either, despite the people actually avoid getting shot like that.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It not though.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Hyperbole is when something is stated to have happen after it did such as sentry beating galactus. This is happening during the event and there no need for a hyperbole about a fact. Logan can and does dodge bullets.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............GI Joes hit there targets all the time...........guessing your not a fan of there comics.

Originally posted by Accel
Except for the ambiguity of the scenario in question. All we actually see is Wolverine charging forward, with his upper body twisted in a “Imma about to gut you” stance, with bullets whizzing by him.

Originally posted by Accel
He then proceeds to get shot twice later on in the same page. So much for those "side-stepping abilities" of his helping him out there.

Originally posted by Accel
Is he immune to using hyperbole either? No.

No, but he not known for it which means it very unlikely it was a hyperbole.

Originally posted by Accel
Do you always automatically take every thing you read at face-value like this?

Yes, it is. Pretty much every thing you listed as to how Wolverine could dodge a bullet is all fine and dandy, but doesn’t automatically pertain to this particular moment.

Nope, but when the character stating it hardly ever hyperbole. When The fact the character states it as a fact. When we then see the bullets missing him. It clearly implied that he dodged it.

It does though. Becuases if he can and has there no reason to assume he not when a character such as DD who has the ability to know if he is or not states that he is. Not to mention the fact that it was clearly the writer intent that logan was dodging the bullet.

Originally posted by Accel
Hyperbole is exaggeration, which is exactly what would a describe a moment where a person manages to avoid being shot by a bullet and is automatically listed as dodging said bullet.

He acknowledge as dodging the bullet becauses it was stated, shown and is within his ability to do so.

Originally posted by Accel
No, I'm not. From what I remember of them though, they couldn't hit shit.

Well your memory must be faulty, becuases comic book GI JOE’s kill a lot of people

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It clearly implied that he dodged it.

On the other hand, like I’ve been trying to convince you, not every thing offhand comment is meant to be taken at face-value, even Matt’s who could just as easily be referring to the bullets missing Wolverine more so than Wolverine actually side-stepping them. Neither that nor the positioning of his upper torso actually proves that Wolverine was actually reacting faster than a bullet or that it was the writer’s intent, regardless of any other times he may have done so.

It’s obvious I’m not going to change your mind on the matter, Capt, but I doubt I’m the only one who questions the of the feat itself.

Originally posted by Accel
That’s just it though; it’s not “clear” at all.

Originally posted by Accel
Our only implications are that DD’s statements and the positioning of Logan’s charge towards Bushwacker.

which is more then most feats have going for them.

not to mention Logan did not charge like that in the arc unless shot at.

On the other hand, like I’ve been trying to convince you, not every thing offhand comment is meant to be taken at face-value,[/B][/QUOTE]
this is true, however this is not one of thoses times. Most comments that are not ment at faces value are when the character is not actually doing the event. Nor do they have a character such as DD who can clearly confirm what they are stating.

Originally posted by Accel
even Matt’s who could just as easily be referring to the bullets missing Wolverine more so than Wolverine actually side-stepping them.

......Matt now reverces to bullets missing some one as them dodging it? Come on man you can't be serous.

Originally posted by Accel
Neither that nor the positioning of his upper torso actually proves that Wolverine was actually reacting faster than a bullet or that it was the writer’s intent, [b]regardless of any other times he may have done so.[/B]

also your arguement could go both ways. I mean DD stated Logan got shot, given your arguement it must mean logan was not shot.

I mean if we can't take DD word that logan dodge the bullets I guess we can't take his word that logan got shot.

Originally posted by Accel
It’s obvious I’m not going to change your mind on the matter, Capt, but I doubt I’m the only one who questions the of the feat itself.

also no one argueing for wolverine presented this scann, it was presented by the opposition.

Good God. Seriously, good God.

Originally posted by Accel
Good God. Seriously, good God.

Whats there to good god about? One of your points is that Bushwacker has incredibly bad aim. Ok why would Bushwacker have incredibly bad aim?

1. Hes a trained marksman
2. Hes has a bionic arm!!!!!!

How is somebody like that going to have bad aim? 😬 Furthermore its been stated that Wolverine basically has enhanced reflexes so ts very possible for him to be doding the bullets.

The fact that Wolverine got shot afterwards doesnt prove that he was aim dodging the shooter it could dman well be argued that he was so close it was hard for him to dodge bullets at that range.

Yes I understand whay hyperbole means and yes its possible that he could ave been aim doddging but to be quite frank theres nothing to indicate that he wasnt dodging bullets especially when:

1. Bushwacker has training and a bionic arm (which therefore makes it difficult to aim dodge)
2. Wolverine has enhanced reflexes.
3. Just because it looks like he running doesnt mean he didnt try to sidestep the bullets. I dunno man I think the reason why DD said that "he was dodging the bullets", was meant to indicate this.
4. This aint GI.Joe. This is Bushwacker. Maybe you should give us more examples of Bushwacker missing things so we can get your point.

this thread needs to be redone with nothing but scans too many posts and it makes it really hard to actually go through stuff, very unorganized.

This is why Wolverine doesn't dodge attacks...

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Ha-Son
This is why Wolverine doesn't dodge attacks...

😖hifty:

Lol. That reminds me of Fallen Son, when Wolverine brings Daredevil with him to "interrogate" Crossbones, ostensibly to tell Wolverine when he's lying, but really so that, if Crossbones took the gun Wolverine had brought along and tried to shoot him with it, Daredevil could serve as a witness that Wolverine had killed him in "self-defense" 😆 .

Originally posted by Ha-Son
This is why Wolverine doesn't dodge attacks...

😖hifty:

I love that little grin on his face after parker says "Just so you have an excuse."

😆.

Oh well.....

K guys, I've finally got the resolve and the materials I needed to finish this damned ravamp thread on my own. So, for the next several weeks I'm going to try and buckle down to get this thing kicked off.. Hopefully it can be finished by then, possibly not, but above it all, I AM finishing this damned thing soon! It's days of haunting me are over!

some strength showings : wolverine throws a lion , rips chains bare hands, breaks bars

Originally posted by jinzin
K guys, I've finally got the resolve and the materials I needed to finish this damned ravamp thread on my own. So, for the next several weeks I'm going to try and buckle down to get this thing kicked off.. Hopefully it can be finished by then, possibly not, but above it all, I AM finishing this damned thing soon! It's days of haunting me are over!

Originally posted by Badabing
It's been over 6 weeks. durverine

Yeah! dur

If I had to guess I'd say should be up soon. Jinzin has done an amazing job gathering all the scans and he should be commended! All blame for the lateness for this respect thread falls squarely on my shoulders... I'm an ass (Although... if you guys had any idea the kind of shit my family and I had to deal with this, you'd understand)

Anyway... I've seen the respect thread (it's in my PM inbox right now; who's jealous?) so just be patient, Jinzin will deliver and knock your socks off.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If I had to guess I'd say should be up soon. Jinzin has done an amazing job gathering all the scans and he should be commended! All blame for the lateness for this respect thread falls squarely on my shoulders... I'm an ass (Although... if you guys had any idea the kind of shit my family and I had to deal with this, you'd understand)

Anyway... I've seen the respect thread (it's in my PM inbox right now; who's jealous?) so just be patient, Jinzin will deliver and knock your socks off.

I love this thread so much. Thank you for keeping it organized and updated.

superman can't beat everybody it depends on who he is fighting.