Well, what could possibly cause an instant drop in temperature? As this is not a normal occurrence, even if that were so, that still simply confirms what I said earlier that we don't have enough info to know what really happened. In of itself, the rumour we have heard so far- that the problem was temperature loss- is not a full explanation because it raises other fundamental unknown questions, and it is always wise to sit back and await news before making definitive comment.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I understand now the suspicion is a sudden drop in cabin pressure- that makes far more sense, though the cause is unclear; maybe a tiny fracture.
Well i heard a specialist say, that it is very strange that the Pilots didn't drop, and that the usual procedure seems to not have been acted accordingly ......(forgive me for that sentence not making any grammatical sense)
Sorry to hear about that.
I remember a case in England when a plane had to make an emergency landing in weird circumstances. One of the glass panes of the cock-pit had been sucked off as it was climbing, and the pilot was almost sucked out.....until the co-pilot was holding on to him from his leg.
Most of the pilot's body was frozen as the other 2 pilots tried to re-gain control of the air-craft. Even that RAF pilots that were despatched on the scene could not believe their eyes when they saw a human body hanging from the cock-pit at that speed and altitude !
to cut a long story short, the plane managed to land without any casualties
Originally posted by GCG
Sorry to hear about that.I remember a case in England when a plane had to make an emergency landing in weird circumstances. One of the glass panes of the cock-pit had been sucked off as it was climbing, and the pilot was almost sucked out.....until the co-pilot was holding on to him from his leg.
Most of the pilot's body was frozen as the other 2 pilots tried to re-gain control of the air-craft. Even that RAF pilots that were despatched on the scene could not believe their eyes when they saw a human body hanging from the cock-pit at that speed and altitude !
to cut a long story short, the plane managed to land without any casualties
my bad; forgot to add the amazing part 😮
The pilot who was hanging out, froze so quickly that
(a)his blood from the wounds didnt get a chance to lose itself.
(B) The body got perfectly preserved
this medics managed to revive him back on land.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well i heard a specialist say, that it is very strange that the Pilots didn't drop, and that the usual procedure seems to not have been acted accordingly ......(forgive me for that sentence not making any grammatical sense)
I think the primary question will be why they didn't lose altitude.
But at least a pressure drop is more credible than simple temperature loss.
Originally posted by KidRock
I wanna hear the "black box" recordings.
Yes, that should be interesting....
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I think the primary question will be why they didn't lose altitude.But at least a pressure drop is more credible than simple temperature loss.
true, I guess we will know more later......although I heard of another incident when something siilar happened and the Plane just kept flying for 3 hours.....
Indeed, when they trace the main black box, we'll have far more useful info.
One rumour going around is that passengers were seen trying to control the plane before 'it fell out of the air'. I attach no particular credibility for that but some papers are apparently planning to report that tomorrow morning.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Indeed, when they trace the main black box, we'll have far more useful info.One rumour going around is that passengers were seen trying to control the plane before 'it fell out of the air'. I attach no particular credibility for that but some papers are apparently planning to report that tomorrow morning.
Well I heard that the Jets sent after the plane couldn't see the Pilot at all and the co-pilot moveless and probably dead with the oxygenmask on......well we'll see what they say tomorrow
Ok, some info from the paper this morning.
"When they made contact, the pilots saw two people in the cockpit- we do not know if they were crew members or passengers- appearing to want to take over the controls."
Oxygen masks were activated in the cabin.
One report says a victim reported shortly before ther crash that the pilot was 'blue', whilst another report says the pilot was reported as dead.
Decompression leading to a cabin pressure drop is still the most likely suspect but the cause is a mystery- there is no sign of a sudden decompression, such as might be caused by a fracture in the hull or a broken window, and all the fuss that might come with that.
But a creeping decompression- such as caused by a faulty seal- would be even stranger, because no-one has any idea why nothing would have been done about it- for that matter, pilots drill against sudden decompression as well, but that would have been more panicked.
A Cypriot spokesperson has suggested that the aircraft had had decompression problems before. This has been immediately denied by Helios, the operator, who say it was serviced just last week; it is possible the Cypriot (in fact their transport minister) was referring to the make of aircraft, as a Helios plane had to make an emergency landing last year due to a decompression problem, but it is hardly as if the 737 is known for this fault.
I suspect other contributing causes- like bad air or food poisoning- won't yet be ruled out.
enough with the bloody conspiracy theories already
the plane suffered from loss of cabin pressure....at 36,000 feet the lack of oxygen is so severe it causes people to black out. the death zone in which no human can acclimatize is 8000 metres which is 26,272 feet
rapid decpmpression means the body is affected by a process known as hypoxia in which conciousness is lost in a matter of seconds and expansion of the air results in a huge temperature loss resulting in severe frost bite
given that the cypriot plane was on auto pilot and flew for 2 hours after depressurization it would mean the bodies were frozen solid
the reason the jets were with it were simply standard proceedure post sept 11th...any plane that loses contact has jets scrambled to intercept
so no...before anyone says it....i doubt it was bush's fault
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well so just wondering is conspiracy theorizing already...sorry, dont agree....
understandable...just stopping the rot before it begins...because pretty much everything that happens in the world has some sort of conspiracy behind it...such is the way of the KMC discussions